Wyrdstorm Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Does anybody know a good, free AV product which covers WHS 2011? I have been using Avast, however when i went to update it, it tells me it expired 10 days ago (and didnt tell me!!) I am using MSE on all my other machines but i dont think thats compatable yet is it? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 You don't need to use AV products on a server OS. As WHS only stores backups and files which are accessed by other machines there is absolutely no need for running AV software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 You don't need to use AV products on a server OS. As WHS only stores backups and files which are accessed by other machines there is absolutely no need for running AV software. What if all your downloads etc are done on there? like mine are... I use MS Forefront, theres a hack to get that working, and thats essentially MSE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted March 29, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted March 29, 2012 The above post is 100% nonsense! You need AV solutions on any connected machine, especially server - as it moves files between machines. I run WHS at home, I use Eset. :) Duffydemon, goretsky, Wyrdstorm and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 What if all your downloads etc are done on there? like mine are... I use MS Forefront, theres a hack to get that working, and thats essentially MSE... Even if the downloads are on your WHS, you're not accessing them from there right? If at all, your client will get infected, not the server. I personally think it absolutely unnecessary to have a AV on a server constantly running in the background. If you must, then just use an online scanner once or twice a month. That's what some of my friends do on their servers that I have setup as they are extra paranoid. But they have yet to come across any virus, trojan etc. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted March 29, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted March 29, 2012 But they have yet to come across any virus, trojan etc. Not finding != not having Even if the downloads are on your WHS, you're not accessing them from there right? If at all, your client will get infected, not the server. What on earth are you talking about? My server downloads, sorts my files and hosts them. I DO NOT want a virus to exist on this server, hence everything is scanned. goretsky 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyrdstorm Posted March 29, 2012 Author Share Posted March 29, 2012 My setup is a document server (syncs up with the 2/3 laptops in the house) and backs up all the changes made to files (I don't back up the laptops themselves, they are "dumb terminals" as they have roaming profiles in effect so nothing is stored on them - in my line of work, its a godsend for roaming profiles!!!:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REM2000 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Not finding != not having What on earth are you talking about? My server downloads, sorts my files and hosts them. I DO NOT want a virus to exist on this server, hence everything is scanned. Agreed, Also the server will become infected, turning it into a bot or worse sending backed up data across the internet. Antivirus software pretty much sits on all computers, to clean incoming and outgoing files/data. I would recommend MSE, i use it on Win2k8R2, it's lightweight and is pretty automatic which is what you want from a AV System. goretsky 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyrdstorm Posted March 29, 2012 Author Share Posted March 29, 2012 Ah they have got it to work on it now? when i installed it, it wouldn't work with server editions, Ill give it a try now since i do like MSE, got it on everything else!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 It doesnt work on WHS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted March 29, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted March 29, 2012 http://www.eset.co.uk/Home/NOD32-Antivirus Supports WHS :) goretsky 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kami- Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 You don't need to use AV products on a server OS. As WHS only stores backups and files which are accessed by other machines there is absolutely no need for running AV software. Are you being serious? I'm seriously glad you're not working for my hosting provider(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 You don't need to use AV products on a server OS. As WHS only stores backups and files which are accessed by other machines there is absolutely no need for running AV software. "Worst... Advice.... Ever...." As someone else said if your system is connected to the internet and you are downloading files from said "internet", it's safe practice to at least protect yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Maybe I should clarify a bit. When I said a server doesn't need AV software, I meant a simple home server. A web server (personal or professional) on the other hand might need one. Although I hosted a blog on my server at home for nearly a year before moving to a professional host, and I did not encounter any threats. @ niklouch: The statement "not finding = not having" is true, but my friends regularly use online scanners, and they have not found anything. Even I used them initially, never once found a threat. In the end, do or use whatever works for you. I just gave my opinion on the whole matter. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo1911 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 @ The Dark Knight So if your server is having a virus residing on it, and you constantly keep on formatting your connected machines because they keep on getting infected? This seems to be a perfect scenario to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJGM Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 If it's a Windows based server, it doesn't matter if it's running Windows Home Server, or a professional grade server OS like Windows Server 2008 Enterprise Edition, if it's connected to the internet at all, it NEEDS anti-virus protection. One exception to this is if the server is running on a Linux based OS, as that rarely needs AV protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted March 29, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted March 29, 2012 Maybe I should clarify a bit. When I said a server doesn't need AV software, I meant a simple home server. Still100% nonsense. If there is a route from this server to the internet or back then it needs protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedroth Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Maybe I should clarify a bit. When I said a server doesn't need AV software, I meant a simple home server. A web server (personal or professional) on the other hand might need one. Although I hosted a blog on my server at home for nearly a year before moving to a professional host, and I did not encounter any threats. @ niklouch: The statement "not finding = not having" is true, but my friends regularly use online scanners, and they have not found anything. Even I used them initially, never once found a threat. In the end, do or use whatever works for you. I just gave my opinion on the whole matter. :) Even so, WHS should still have an anti-virus. If a virus is residing on it, it has the potential to infect any machines that connect to it, whether that client has an AV or not. Why risk infection to other systems when you can quash it on the server using an anti-virus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 @ The Dark Knight So if your server is having a virus residing on it, and you constantly keep on formatting your connected machines because they keep on getting infected? This seems to be a perfect scenario to you? As I said, I have never encountered ANY viruses on my server. Even my client machines have only had a handful (all 5 machines put together). Nothing that my AV couldn't take care of. Also I don't constantly reformat. All machines running Windows 7 have been doing so since release in 2009, without a single format. My netbook running Windows XP has only had 1 re-format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Still100% nonsense. If there is a route from this server to the internet or back then it needs protection. I did say this finally: "In the end, do or use whatever works for you. I just gave my opinion on the whole matter." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted March 29, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted March 29, 2012 I have never encountered ANY viruses on my server And again I will say that I bet if you used a GOOD scanner, you'd be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 And again I will say that I bet if you used a GOOD scanner, you'd be surprised. I used ESET and Kaspersky. Both reported 0 threats. :) goretsky 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted March 29, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted March 29, 2012 Fair play, I'm not gonna fault that then, but you have to understand that this is the minority, right? Most people who say "I have no scanner and have no viruses" are usually blind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Fair play, I'm not gonna fault that then, but you have to understand that this is the minority, right? Most people who say "I have no scanner and have no viruses" are usually blind... I made that original statement based on my experience and a few close friends. I see now that I am clearly in the minority! :) Yeah, that is true, many people say that! I have always used and encouraged others to use a good AV on computers though. Excluding servers! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted March 29, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted March 29, 2012 LOL Just a quick FYI: Our mail server was riddled with virusses when I first came here. As was our image storage NAS. Neither showed any symptoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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