Rathamon Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Im getting cable next tuesday :D However the connection will be shared with others in the flat where I live and since I dont really want the RIAA or some similar people turning up on my door im planning on blocking access to kazaa anybody know which in/out bound ports I should filter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+StevoFC MVC Posted October 9, 2003 MVC Share Posted October 9, 2003 well the fasttrack network uses port 80 a lot so you can't really block that. Kazaa connects to other peers running Kazaa on port 1214. and ones that use the Gnutella network connect to peers on ports 6346 and 6347. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfhound Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Or you could just not share the files out.... and nobody will come nocking on your door. I know it defeats the purpose of p2p but if you're really that afraid, then you could consider that option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[kAb] Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 You can use a lot of ports for kazaa. if you're sharing the connection, there isn't much you can do. If you're sharing then there is supposed to be "trust" and if you're paying for it together, well you could always threaten to not pay if they use kazaa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathamon Posted October 10, 2003 Author Share Posted October 10, 2003 (edited) Well I could "trust" people enough If I felt I could rely on them not to use something like kazaa by accident and basically not understand possible implications and not paying isnt really an option since I then lose my part of the connection and trying to do a comp sci degree without net access kinda sucks Edited October 10, 2003 by Rathamon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchShrader Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 bittorrent, winMX, DC++, emulePlus , are non_adware/spyware p2p programs. (best info i have) and none are presently getting much negative attention. For sharing of Personal files, encryption is one option, as is FTP if you wish password/user protection. Security isn't as simple as 'block Kazaa' (though i can understand your desire to do that) .. perhaps you should read up on the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmo Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 If your that worried get your own DSL line or something. Or just hack them accross the LAN and **** with their kazaa program files :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathamon Posted October 10, 2003 Author Share Posted October 10, 2003 it seems kazaa loves to use random ports for connecting to avoid being blocked , that rather sucks somewhat maybe ill have to write a program that sniffs all packets going through the router and works out what is kazaa/non kazaa, hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Why not close all outgoing ports except for what you need to use? Our network here at work only allows, HTTP, HTTPS, SMTP, POP, and DNS for the users (of course the admins have every thing open, but hey :)). I am not sure if KaZaa will look for one of those open ports, but when I was testing our new router config, I could not get out. How many users are going to be connected in? You can always do what ASMO recomended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmo Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Yah actually, blocking everything but what you know you need is a good idea, but if say your roomates want to use MSN voice chat or remote desktop access, or anything else they might be asking/bothernig you a lot to get things working, or try to get a list of applications you know they use and open only those ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 If it were me, I would say it was worth the time. People always say "People aren't interested in your excel spreadsheets or word docs" but I also hear people say "I will never ever get into a car wreck if it is my fault". I always say it is never too cautious. (This is coming from someone who had his computer used to serve stuff to IRC without him knowing back many many moons ago) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Christensen Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Just make everyone agree in writing not to use the connection to violate copyrights, and that if they do you're not liable. If they don't agree they're not allowed to use the cable line. Get a lawyer to draft it or help you draft it. In fact, you should get some advice from a lawyer anyway. My point is that blocking ports may be an unnecessary hassle for you and everyone else on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeR Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 dude just disable sharing and download Kazaa lite you'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 In fact, you should get some advice from a lawyer anyway. My point is that blocking ports may be an unnecessary hassle for you and everyone else on the line. And getting a lawyer and paying fees isn?t a hassle??? Even then, how are you going to prove that they did it? The RIAA would sue you, and then you would have to take your roommate to court, and pay more legal fees and have more hassle.dude just disable sharing and download Kazaa lite you'll be fine. He isn?t worried about his machine; he is worried about the other people going on the broadband connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Christensen Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 dude just disable sharing and download Kazaa lite you'll be fine. He's not interested in using Kazaa without being detected, just the opposite: he's trying to block Kazaa from being used by anyone on his network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Christensen Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 And getting a lawyer and paying fees isn?t a hassle??? Even then, how are you going to prove that they did it? Good point, I withdraw my suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathamon Posted October 12, 2003 Author Share Posted October 12, 2003 The "block everything" approach did cross my mind, but people will want to use webcams / online games etc which probably enjoy using weird ports just as much as kazaa. If everything works except kazaa I can blame the ISP "oh well what a shame , nothing to do with me" , but if nothing much works people are going to get suspicious :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodle Head Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 I doubt that the RIAA will sue you... they are out for the people who are sharing thousands of songs and if they did get a supenea for you, they could search your computer and find that you have no illegal music files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmetza Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 Im not even worried about riaa :whistle: they cant do anything to me up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmo Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 Im not even worried about riaa :whistle: they cant do anything to me up here. Last time I checked, it is still illegal to distribute pirated software/music in Canada, I live here too, you are confused with some of the Laws up here regarding copied material. It is not illegal to make copies and backups for personal private use, it is still very illegal to distribute/share music and software over the internet, that includes kazaa, if you think you can still share thousands of mp3s over p2p in Canada with zero risk, you are mistaken. You can however, download as much as you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u_diddy Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 :whistle: Don't worry about it. First of all the people whom the RIAA are going after are people who upload thousands of files, not those who download a few (or even alot). Secondly, if it's music you're looking for, you'll soon find out that kazaa has been flooded with a ton of corrupted music files (Screeching noises, distortion etc) that make it impossible to listen to the music. Kazaa is played out but I heard they may soon charge a nominal fee to download the music you actually want (not the crap the record labels force you to buy). Let's wait and see!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathamon Posted October 12, 2003 Author Share Posted October 12, 2003 yes , kazaa also has plenty of viruses which im sure people will enjoy introducing to the LAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PF Prophet Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 kazza=evil basickly its a way for kids to share viruses as well as missnamed files bttorrent,emule,overnet are the only ones i use bt is fastest but also the most restrivtive emule is slower but u can get anything u need basickly and overnet is kinda a cross between them since its server free and "safe" to use and speeds pretty good to :) i would say get a router and only open ports that are needed open other wise there likely to use things like kazza to do stupid **** and get the riaa on ur case (bad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oo420oo Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 Kazaa is for N00bs. Besides, Kazaa plans on charging people to share stuff soon. The truth is once I figured out IRC, I NEVER used any other p2p client. You wont need to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PF Prophet Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 i know irc but prefer to use bt or overnet easyer to resume downloads for those of us that are on 56k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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