Kill Bill *possible spoilers*


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ok, the soundtrack was very tight, enjoyed that.

QT does indeed make formula movies, just not the traditional ones you are used to seeing...try watching lots of indy/underground films and you will know what I mean. Its a style of film alright, just not something mainstream in hollywood.

And yes it was a popcorn movie, this wasn't a super twisty film like pulp, its a simple story of revenge with mild predictable twists; You don't have to think at all and thats what makes it a popcorn flick.

The ending was too cliche for me.

/end opinion.

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The ending was too cliche for me.

but volume 2 hasn't came out yet

:rolleyes: of the first one jackass. The 'cliff hanger' was too cliche.

oh come on now, the guy did not insult you at all, and you toss one out like that.

You realy are not being very cool in this thread. Seems to me your the one wanting attention now. The one who did not like the movie.

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ok, the soundtrack was very tight, enjoyed that.

QT does indeed make formula movies, just not the traditional ones you are used to seeing...try watching lots of indy/underground films and you will know what I mean. Its a style of film alright, just not something mainstream in hollywood.

And yes it was a popcorn movie, this wasn't a super twisty film like pulp, its a simple story of revenge with mild predictable twists; You don't have to think at all and thats what makes it a popcorn flick.

The ending was too cliche for me.

/end opinion.

Hence, it's not the typical "Hollywood" formula. Indie flicks??? I hear what ur saying, but give examples when you talk about stuff. Just in the Asian cinema genre alone I have over 300 flix. I'm sure I've seen a couple of Indies here and there.

But here's the deal, your opinions are valid. If everybody liked this flick, it would probably bug me. In fact, you not liking the film makes me like it even more. When everyone debates a movie like this, it usually tells me that the film was a little more than your average don't go and see it, wait for the rental dude film.

One of the things I also liked about this flick was the fact that Tarantino brought out a few people that never got the respect they deserved. If this movie gets some people to go back and find some crazy classics like Master Killer, The 36 chamber flicks, Bullet Train, or a million other fu classics, I'll be happy about that.

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/opinion

ok, the soundtrack was very tight, enjoyed that.

QT does indeed make formula movies, just not the traditional ones you are used to seeing...try watching lots of indy/underground films and you will know what I mean. Its a style of film alright, just not something mainstream in hollywood.

And yes it was a popcorn movie, this wasn't a super twisty film like pulp, its a simple story of revenge with mild predictable twists; You don't have to think at all and thats what makes it a popcorn flick.

The ending was too cliche for me.

/end opinion.

Hence, it's not the typical "Hollywood" formula. Indie flicks??? I hear what ur saying, but give examples when you talk about stuff. Just in the Asian cinema genre alone I have over 300 flix. I'm sure I've seen a couple of Indies here and there.

But here's the deal, your opinions are valid. If everybody liked this flick, it would probably bug me. In fact, you not liking the film makes me like it even more. When everyone debates a movie like this, it usually tells me that the film was a little more than your average don't go and see it, wait for the rental dude film.

One of the things I also liked about this flick was the fact that Tarantino brought out a few people that never got the respect they deserved. If this movie gets some people to go back and find some crazy classics like Master Killer, The 36 chamber flicks, Bullet Train, or a million other fu classics, I'll be happy about that.

didn't know that's what you meant by "formula movies" and in that case, I agree fully with you.

Agent Smith, why don't you let him explain/stand up for himself. If he feels unjustly ribbed, then he can say something and I can apologize.

And yes, I WANT ATTENTION!!!

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QT is good at that and i think iit helped move the film along quite well

Movie would move along just fine without it. I can understand when going back to show someone's past but the other times were unnecessary. Just because its worked for him before, it doesn't mean he should implement it in every movie that he now makes.

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Movie would move along just fine without it. I can understand when going back to show someone's past but the other times were unnecessary. Just because its worked for him before, it doesn't mean he should implement it in every movie that he now makes.

I agree, I think he just did it because that's what he is known for, so he probably started with themes such as time rearangement from the get go, however pointless it was. It works better when the plot depends on it. Think over Kill Bill in a regular concurrent timeline, and you are fine.

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Yes its in Black and White and the reason for doing that was because of the MPAA. It was done to get pass them for an R rating. And how brilliant was that done!!! When she focused, the scene went black and white, showing tunnel type vision. When that was over and she went to the upper room, if you remember, there was a loud Boom when she blinked her eyes and it went color again, BRILLIANT.

I was so excited to see QT evolve as a Director. His style has truely taken a new form and I cant wait for V.2

The movie was a parody of sorts of the Hong Kong Cinema, the blood fountains spraying out of the people is overly done just like HK films. There are a lot of subtle nods to these films throughout the movie. I am going to see it again today.

No this film is not for everyone, it is bloody, it is ultra violent.

I took my friend with me yesterday, he HATES QT, but even he was shocked at how much he liked the movie, and how much he enjoyed QT Writing and Directing style in his 4th film. Did he get everything on screen, no, but that did not stope him for seeing what a work of pure brillian art.

I watched it yesterday and to my suprise this movie is a complete master piece.

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I love it. My friend hate it. He said QT ripped off other director scripts for his movie.

partially true, but dialogue is hard to be entirely original nowadays.

This movie just wasn't a very good QT film; he was poking fun at a genre that allready makes fun of itself.

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No good camera shots you say? Man, what about the one in the dance club where the camera follows Uma all the way to the bathroom over the walls, that was awesome. What about the shot in the plane when she has her sword right next to her? Hah okay maybe that last one wasn't as much beautiful as it was absurd. But I laughed.

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No good camera shots you say? Man, what about the one in the dance club where the camera follows Uma all the way to the bathroom over the walls, that was awesome.

Fincher started that long ago....its nothing new. :rolleyes:

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Fincher started that long ago....its nothing new. :rolleyes:

Fincher started that :blink:

nope not so. fincher also took that from other directors for instance Martin Scorsese

and if you want to go back even farther, you can see the influence that Akira Kurosawa has on many directors.

And for someone who did not like this film as much as you say, you sure do spend a lot of time on making your point of dislike over and over and over again.

Many liked it, few did not. Who cares

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Fincher started that  :blink:

nope not so. fincher also took that from other directors for instance Martin Scorsese

and if you want to go back even farther, you can see the influence that Akira Kurosawa has on many directors.

And for someone who did not like this film as much as you say, you sure do spend a lot of time on making your point of dislike over and over and over again.

Many liked it, few did not. Who cares

Fincher made it trendy. :yes:

And I was defending my post thanks, I will post as often as I like about how much I didn't like this movie.

/start rant

As for Akira Kurosawa, I have only seen Rash?mon, and I gotta say he didn't go through any walls or pillars. Now if you are talking about influence in general, then perhaps I can see that; but there are far more influencial directors honing from germany and the rest of europe. And if you even for a second think that Alfred Hitchcock was innovative (not that YOU do, but there are many that are easily swayed)...he stole everything he ever used as far as techniques go, from earlier european cinema that the american public had no way of seeing.

/me ends rant based on film degree.

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I know I am going to get hit hard for this:

I loved reservoir Dogs, and was really let down by Pulp fiction. I dont even intend to see this. QT's ego overtakes his films.

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Kurosawa has influenced some of the greatest directors of our time.

I suggest seeing more of his work. As far as your comment goes in regards to Rash?mon, well I guess you are not familiar with cinimatic history, and the effect not only that movie had with some of his directing (shots that never have been done) but all of his work for that matter. Read up on him, and you will see how many people in the industry today try to mimic his style into there own.

And no Fincher did not make it trendy. Scorsese on the other hand did. If your going to give credit give it to the person who started it all.

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