Do you enjoy using Java?  

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  1. 1. Do you enjoy using Java?

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It's an awesome introductory language, versatile and works on nearly any platform.

introductory? a intro language is C, so you can learn basic programming rules (and have a usual pointer headache). a introductory language, the way u ment it, is C# since VB.NET is getting left behind.

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introductory? a intro language is C, so you can learn basic programming rules (and have a usual pointer headache). a introductory language, the way u ment it, is C# since VB.NET is getting left behind.

You can learn basic programming rules using almost any language?

To clarify, I'm talking about from an OOP standpoint too. I honestly believe Java's one of the best languages for introducing the concept of objects to someone who has never done any programming before.

My opinions are based upon experience, and for me Java has been a joy to use... So far...

Java is a good language. I happen to like it, though it's not my favorite.

The absolute worst thing about Java development are the IDEs. I have tried all of the free ones and none are good. Some are slow and bulky. Others are a pain to use. And all of them look like crapware from the early 90s.

I personally prefer C# because it offers all of the same benefits that Java does, but with a whole lot more to offer. And with the advent of Visual Studio Express, it's a much more compelling option for independent/hobby developers. (in my opinion)

This as well...

Ionly know Visual Studio and C# but you can kind of apply knowledge of one to another.

I don't agree with

"The last thing is the older JAVA versions as they have vulnerabilities and destroy the reputation of the latest JAVA 7 releases with all security features and stuff. "

Reason: That could be said about any Language or framework. apples to apples...

I've install Eclipse once... and looked at some Language (Python)

I can NOT say that the IDE? (Eclipse) is bad or slow... but confusing as hell...

maybe that's because i didn't spead much time on it and didn't know what i was looking at.

Problem with VS and C# is its Microsoft.. or more correctly not Open Source or Free.

I'm a web dude... so my problem is IIS... dont mind that i have to pay... but what gets me is being force on to IIS. DotNet

Well from what i understand is....IIS is the performance bottleneck or so i'm told.

HAHA saying that i haven't even test my app yet so... i may be talking kak

I use Java every day and absolutely love programming in it. I don't understand why people complain all the time about Eclipse, agreed, it uses tons of ram, but it is the most feature complete IDE out there, plus I can use it Java, Android, PHP, Python and C++ development which makes it a Godsend for me. I understand how the myriad of frameworks can be overwhelming for some folks, but if you find something you like and stick to it, it is pretty rewarding. Given we I have never do anything beyond web or desktop development, and absolutely hate client side Java. That must surely die. But Java is fantastic for enterprise applications.

To clarify, I'm talking about from an OOP standpoint too. I honestly believe Java's one of the best languages for introducing the concept of objects to someone who has never done any programming before.

I agree with this. I also think PHP is a good introduction to OOP as well, though Java just seems to have every OO concept available as part of its syntax (in the sense of written and implemented in the same way as a OO model).

Java is a nice language. I just don't like the VM.

(off topic) I would like to see where the D programming language goes and whether it will be adopted. It looks like it brings in the best of Java and looks optionally as powerful as C/C++ in terms of memory management if you want to control it.

My answer to the poll is somewhere in the middle - I don't love it exactly, but I don't want to kill it with fire neither.

I hate Eclipse. That's why I use JCreator LE (http://www.jcreator.org/download.htm, the free version) for Java development. It's very lightweight and works well. Eclipse is just so heavy... takes absolutely forever to load.

As for Java, I like it. It's the Java documentation. You can't beat it. It's amazing. And the API has classes that can do anything - all built in. It's magic. [side note... mother of all horrible documentation... Facebook... :o]

Still, I like C# more. And for certain things, C++. Python is awesome because I can test snippets of code in the interactive interpreter shell. I use all kinds of mixtures of languages for projects - as each part lends itself more to a certain language.

Objective-C? Oh hell no. Kill it with fire. It's a decent addition to C... if object oriented languages hadn't been invented. There is absolutely no reason why that language should have lived to be used in the 21st century. Nothing makes me procrastinate more than the thought of having to use Objective-c.

Objective-C is about as bad as nesC.

I like Java too. We're learning the concepts of OOP with it, and even though I messed around with C# and Python I keep going back to Java. It's clear, and the syntax is very consistent. I think C# tries to make some things 'too compact', which reduces the readability of the code.

I'm not experienced at all in either language though, but I like how you can get started quickly and easily in Java and have code that runs fine on every single platform. And that's a must, considering our teachers (and my classmates) use (mostly) OSX, some Linux and some Windows. Students are mostly Windows, some OSX and few Linux.

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DIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

Uphold legacy support - yes

Everything else - especially desktop applications using them -> STOP IT!

Glassed Silver:ios

hmm.. a lot of people talking about java not having a decent IDE.

I kind of disagree with that.

I use eclipse and it's pretty good. Fast, user friendly, very good auto complete, customizable, some very good plugins...

Disclaimer: I also use Visual Studio Ultimate and C#

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