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Frank    3

Not only that, but their are a lot of company's still running on Windows NT 4.0 and are just starting to upgrade to Windows 2000. Most company's (if they have a half way decent IT department) don't go out and buy the new versions of Windows to upgrade. They may have to buy the newer license, but Microsoft doesn't care if you are running Windows NT4 with a Windows XP license. You paid for their license, that?s all they care about. So PF Prophet, companies WOULDNT CARE if another OS came out. It would just be another step on the ladder a few years down the road.

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Glowstick    3
grow the f up and stop bitching about people using server as a workstation its there choice they can do what they like

Well, just gimme your home address then, just to see if you can really do what you like. I bet the BSA would want to challenge that claim!

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Glowstick    3
The rumors you're hearing about "Pro 2003" are referring to Windows XP versions for 64-bit workstations. Never, though, did it use 2003-based code; which is why MS quickly removed all references from their site. Dude--don't say stuff that isn't true, man.

The AMD64 versions of Windows XP do use the 2003 codebase.

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AxelStone    0
lets take money out of the picture. i have both xp and 2k3. i want to use one or the other, i game often. other wise im doing office, or internet stuff. i do other stuff but not that often. which os should i keep. i think 2k3 is faster and more stable from what ive seen so far.

I'm using his quote as a basic example... WHY is it more stable, WHY is it better. Also, if you dont know how to use the software why are you using it. To learn? Then why are you trying to game on a server platform. I'm not picking on this poor guy, but 90% of the tards are going to pirate this, and not even know how to use it. Thats how DDOS bots are so prolific, they spread through stupid people doing stupid things and opening programs such as the greatest software of all time, "server.exe". Alotv smart people here, I'm bored so I'm shuttling around alotv Forums today. Not to **** anyone off but thats what I see. Also, how many are just screwing up the parents machines and dont have one they bought for themselves.

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PF Prophet    0

humm funny i rent my pairnts a machien LOL

i owen all the computerts in this house with the exception of 1 laptop i sold my mother

and yes there was to be an updated version of xp dont say what you dont know they didnt beta test it becouse its basickly server 2003(.net) with more **** enabled by defult and more crap installed by defult

if you knew anybody working at ms you would know this

and yes they got a lot of complantes about putting out ANOTHER workstation os so quickly after xp

the 64bit version of xp is 2003 based they just left more lagacy support becouse after all alot of children are using OLD parts and dont know how to get drivers for them (hell menny dont even know how to get video drivers unless there on update site)

i havent seen an nt4 based workstation in some time and i have bummped around alot of offices in the area i have however seen alot of nt4 based servers that are planing to upgrade to 2k or 2k3 in the neer future

xp is not the godsend you people make it out to be neather is 2k3 the godsend that some make it out to be

its just another evolution of windows its had alot more dev time then xp did and that helps make it more stable

yes you will run into some programs that are not compatable with 2k3 so what get a version thats compatable

dont tell me i dont know what im talking about when you dont know what your taking about

oh and the kb removal was after the desided NOT to put out the xp/pro version of 2k3 if they didnt plan on putting out a pro version then why would they put the full WINDOWS XP 2003 graphix ???

stop trying to use the "DONT PIRATE WINDOWS SERVER 2003 JUST USE XP" crap if they pirate xp then they most likely have pirated 2k/xp and even 9x for that matter

i you cant come up with a better argumant then that go take a nap and try agin later

why fight it people are going to pirate what evers out there i remmber when i got done with the beta of ME how menny people had pirated it then been mad becouse it sucked LOL i gave my ME disks away becouse i knew it sucked

i kept my 2k disks becouse i loved 2k since i got a stable version and beta nvidia drivers for it ;)

just stop whiening and bitching about people using a server as a workstation if u dont like them doing it then just ignore them/us dont offer help or advice or criticisim just leave them/us be if nobody responds we will go someplace else

oh and bsa LOL thats funny since it wouldnt matter i have a licenced version ;) and soon will be getting my free small buisness server (gotta love ms reps)

EDIT: oh and its more stable becouse its had more dev time and oh it dosnt crash or glich out like xp dose :) i know you dont have anyproblems but menny people do or have had problems and no not all of them are just morons who are unwilling to fix the problems

well love to get flamed keep up the hard work kids i will be back ;)

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Glowstick    3
and yes there was to be an updated version of xp dont say what you dont know they didnt beta test it becouse its basickly server 2003(.net) with more **** enabled by defult and more crap installed by defult

if you knew anybody working at ms you would know this

That's bull****! Now just STFU!

BTW use a ****ing spellchecker, you're putting shame on the people with dyslexia!

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PF Prophet    0
and yes there was to be an updated version of xp dont say what you dont know they didnt beta test it becouse its basickly server 2003(.net) with more **** enabled by defult and more crap installed by defult

if you knew anybody working at ms you would know this

That's bull****! Now just STFU!

BTW use a ****ing spellchecker, you're putting shame on the people with dyslexia!

wow intelegent responce you proove your intelegance and knolage quite well with that responce

children :rolleyes:

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Glowstick    3

Especially someone that's unable to spell has to tell me that, huh?

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blackice912    0

I think all topics about "2K3 and Games" should be illegal. Too many people who get angry.

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PF Prophet    0

i think posing offtopic should as the rules say be considered spam

and wow tom u really show your intolect by attacking my spelling must be a sad little "man" if thats the best you can do

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dougkinzinger    0
The AMD64 versions of Windows XP do use the 2003 codebase.

Good to know, thanks; I was only aware that the shared code was bugfixes.

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Winston    0
Especially someone that's unable to spell has to tell me that, huh?

Tom i feel for you :( :(

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Winston    0
people use 2k3 for menny reasions mainly becouse its new

funny thing i havent seen any missing dll's in 2k3 and only 1 game i have wouldnt run (bf1942) but thats a game issue it has done the same thing on 2k so cant say its a server thing

there was to have been a pro version of 2k3 but it was cut out thanks to companys complaning about having to upgrade there workstation os agin (some companys dont get that u can stick with 2k pro and be just fine till 2007)

xp is bloated becouse its got **** i never use as well as alot of lagacy code and no even with every single service dissabled its not as fast as 2k3 with all the services enabled(the ones u dissabled in xp) i think the extra dev time is what xp really needed so do the dev's thats why the next service pack is gonna be replacing alot of the os(least thats what im hearing)

i know doug and some others will say use xp dont pirat 2k3 funny u say that to sombody that u think is a pirat why would they NOT pirat xp if they are pirating 2k3 ?????

for that matter i would bet they probbly pirated 2k and even 9x

grow the f up and stop bitching about people using server as a workstation its there choice they can do what they like if you see the word game in the title of the thred then dont even read it if you dont think it should be used for gaming

let your silance be your statment insted of just being a troll trying to start fights as often as possable

or are you a child who just needs to feel big and important by telling everybody to only use it as a server???

You have no jack all idea what your saying, yes Win2k3 might be a slight faster or stable in respect to XP, but that's because of the additional revamping and tweaking of the kernel, which was required because the OS had to be more stable than normal, XP is by far faster than 2k3 providing you know what your doing and what to turn off, don't let your ignorant shine through just because you have problems tweaking XP to be faster.

This is in reference to your pro version of 2k3, huh? does that make any sense

and could you please rephrase this sentence i have absolutely no idea what in God's name your saying.

i know doug and some others will say use xp  dont pirat 2k3  funny  u say that to sombody that u think is a pirat  why would they NOT pirat xp if they are pirating 2k3 ?????

for that matter i would bet they probbly pirated 2k and even 9x

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PF Prophet    0

doug they also plan to at least at this time update the kernal of xp in the next sp one of the reasions they put it off from the orignal time line

winston yes 2k3 is faster. u even admit it has to be more stable. and i have tweaked xp have also seen tweaked xp that people say is faster then 2k3 funny part is if you "tweak" 2k3 you get even more speed then the defult config

try installing 2k3 then dissabling server services with web addition u can do this with the optomizer u can also do it by converting any version to web add then using the optomizer

i have tweaked 2k/xp/2k3 for best perf and by far xp is the slowest yes it loads faster then 2k but it also has to load vxd's when you load programs unline 2k that loads most of them on boot

with a tweak i have i can make 2k load into desktop just as quick as xp or 2k3 but then its still loading the vxd's and everything else b4 you can acctuly do anything (see windows xp)

the last quote is funny becouse you know what it means you just choose to play stupid i will clear it up for u the same people that pirate 2k3 are pirating xp,2k,nt,9x you arent gonna stop that no matter how u bitch and moan about it

and yes my spelling is ****ty so what u get my point even if you choose to act like you dont understand

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~phoenix~    0

Ok this for the admins of the Neowin.

Make a simple rule like this one.

"People can talk for everything related to software and how to use it EXEPT.

How to use w2k3 like a workstation,like a game server etc...etc..."

Also u have to remove the official Neowin guide for that matter.

Otherwise admins and mods must stop this situation.Since there is NO RULE for that ...people can ask anything they want.People who doesn want to participate to such relative discussions are free not to do.

And i think people who say...

"Ohh u are a pirate."

They are just hypocrites...

Because I m pretty sure that their hard disks or their cd-dvd library has a plenty of illegal material,like c*acks,movies,mp3s,oses...

Or they are enough rich to play the role of the angel.

Or they just want to keep in the dark the poor people of this world and selling after the image of the expert.

Or just want to shell their services to the mama company to be a beta tester again in the next release.

Or they just have nothing to do exept coming here and flaming.

Whatever is the reason its not your fault.

I said again Neowin are responsible for that situation.they just simple have to clear out this before we have the third war here.

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PF Prophet    0

yeah thats what i said b4 but theres an easy fix

give people a place where its safe to talk about 2k3 as a workstation making it illegal to attack or degrade people for doing such

then make it illegal to talk about 2k3 as a workstation in the server forums:)

eather that or follow ur owen rules and start warrning people for these posts that help not at all just degrade people and put them down for wanting to do something neowin has a guide about how to do

or just remove the guide and make it illegal to talk about workstation 2k3 in neowin

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Premgenius    27

Lets get this straight Microsoft Windows 2003 is a SERVER OS and is not meant for playing games.....

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PF Prophet    0

not the point neowin posted and hosts a guide thats about how to make it run as a workstation and people are going to do this dosnt matter if u like it or not still gonna happen

btw that sig system scares me i got something like that gathering dust in the corner of my room ;)

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Premgenius    27
not the point  neowin posted and hosts a guide thats about how to make it run as a workstation  and people are going to do this  dosnt matter if u like it or not  still gonna happen

btw  that sig system scares me  i got something like that gathering dust in the corner of my room ;)

If this is a response to my post thats correct but i did not say that they should stop all i said was it's not meant for gaming thats all, but if they still want to do it it's totally up to the person

freedom of speech

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Glowstick    3

If you want a save place to talk about tuning your warez application, you might go find a warez board? How does that sound?

BTW freedom of speech is only available on public places. This is a privately hosted forum, as all internet sites are.

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PF Prophet    0

tom your an ideot if you would pay attention i have leigal copys of 2k3 std server and even got ahold of 2k3 wed leigal from a buddy at intel

i have a voucher for my free small buisness version of 2k3 as soon as my buddys shop has it in his boss is gonna give us are disks :)

i have had leigal copy since not long after the offical relice thanks to trading off my nappy ass XP pro retail copys (box and all)

and menny people can get ahold of it lieegaly and still want to play with it as a deasktop/worstation os hell my buddys boss is using it as his laptop os and loves it

and ya know tommy boy i bet if somebody checked ur computer u probbly have warez and/or craked stuff on it grow up little boy to u it may seem funny to **** on people calling them pirats and such but really it just shows you ignorance

and no im not gonna take a pic of my disks or the licences i have for one thing dont got a digi cam LOL and for another if i left the key viewable u would probbly use it

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~phoenix~    0

I think All the members comes to Neowin for technical discussions.Its no meant for Warez or such things.The all thing comes to this.

Is this a illegal question (how to to work it as a workstartion etc...)some people do here?

Hmm.from the moment that this privately hosted forum has no rule about that, the answer is obvious No.If the board make one such rule everybody must obay it, like it or not.

Since there is no such rule its not illegal.Is it clear enough or i m so stupid that i cant see the trueth?When i said "Ohh probably u have something illegal in your house"nobody answer,nobody get insulted.

I was waiting someone to say?

"oh why u accuse people without prooves?"

The same goes to all of u when u said

"Oh u have a illegal copy of w2k3 "

Personaly i dont use this OS for workstation BUT this is a completely different thing.Some people still use the 9x kernel OSes.Which are in the 90 % percent illegal copies.Warez copies.Do we have to ask every single people who make a question if he-she has a legal copy of it and to give a proove first for that?Can u imagine if we do that thing?Hmm makes me wonder if some people wants this kind of road of the society.Or maybe this board wants to be like this?Fot To be enter to such community u must give first your credentials or something like this.But for the momment its not that case.Neowin is a privately hosted forum with some rules.We all agree to those when we sign up we accept these rules,otherwise we wouldnt be in this trip together.All what we want some people when we scream"Let the people to make all the kind of questions exept warez"is about respect.Can u get it.Respect.If u dont know what this word means then u dont want to participate to the community u are not a member of this community or u have to find the really meaning of that word and come back here again more Humble.we have to learn our lessons and to appreciate when someone give us a second chance even we dont deserve it.I think someone here knows very well what i m talking about.

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Statikk    7
people use 2k3 for menny reasions mainly becouse its new 

funny thing  i havent seen any missing dll's in 2k3  and only 1 game i have wouldnt run (bf1942) but thats a game issue it has done the same thing on 2k so cant say its a server thing

there was  to have been a pro version of 2k3 but it was cut out thanks to companys complaning about having to upgrade there workstation os agin (some companys dont get that u can stick with 2k pro and be just fine till 2007)

xp is bloated becouse its got **** i never use  as well as alot of lagacy code  and no even with every single service dissabled its not as fast as 2k3 with all the services enabled(the ones u dissabled in xp)  i think the extra dev time is what xp really needed  so do the dev's thats why the next service pack is gonna be replacing alot of the os(least thats what im hearing)

i know doug and some others will say use xp  dont pirat 2k3  funny  u say that to sombody that u think is a pirat  why would they NOT pirat xp if they are pirating 2k3 ?????

for that matter i would bet they probbly pirated 2k and even 9x

grow the f up and stop bitching about people using server as a workstation  its there choice they can do what they like  if you see the word game in the title of the thred  then dont even read it if you dont think it should be used for gaming

let your silance be your statment  insted of just being a troll trying to start fights as often as possable

or are you a child who just needs to feel big and important  by telling everybody to only use it as a server???

If you're going to say that XP is bloated and it has tons of **** you never use then try looking in Administrative Tools and tell me how many of the server applications (which aren't in "bloated xp") you use while running games on your "2003 Workstation". 2003 has almost everything in it that Windows XP does and a whole ****load more. The only reason you're saying it's not as bloated is because it comes with unecessary services and components disabled or uninstalled half of which you're having to re-enable or install to play your games. Everyone has the right to run 2003 as a workstation, but if you do then you had better know what you're doing or have the desire to do a little research and figure things out for yourself instead of running to the forums with every little question you have. Spend as much time cleaning up your xp installation as you do un-optimizing your server installation and you'll be in good shape. Or just stick with 2003 as a workstation, don't complain\ask why it doesn't work everytime you have trouble running game xyz, and read the dictionary an hour every night. Do those 3 things and neowin will definitely be a happier place! :rolleyes:

Just wanted to throw in that it's pretty shady that you rent your parents a computer. You live in their house, they gave birth to you and fed and clothed you for free for many years and kept you safe. Now you charge them rent on a computer?

Edited by StaTiKMaT

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PF Prophet    0

they charge me rent for the room LOL and its rented for internet access (he would have it anyway but this way he feels happy)

oh and i only enable dx and install dx the dif with xp vs 2k3 is that i HAVE to dissable a bunch of **** to get any oerf out of it

oh and those same admin tools shortcuts are avalable in xp if u knew what u where talking about xp and 2k3 are verry simlar 2k3 has had more dev time and it done while about every little thing that dosnt work like i want if i did that i wouldnt have time to game in any os LOL

i have spend 10x as long trying to make xp work like it should as i do in an install of 2k3

oh and plz dont tell me its wrong to rent a pc to my father better i rent it to him for internet access then he spend 4x as much on a rented pc from some shop and have to take it to them every time he messes it up

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Glowstick    3

So PF Spellmeister has also buddies at Intel now, not just at Microsoft. Gets better and better. Can you also ask your buddy George W. to get me a greencard to the US?

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