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Money where your mouth is: Would you sit on MSFT stock on W8 Launch?

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  1. 1. Would you want to be sitting on Microsoft stock for the first 6 months after Windows 8 is released?

    • Yes
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    • No
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    • God No
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    • God yes
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pack34    224

I wouldn't sit on stock, period.

Why?

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Wyn6    358

I have a quicker way for you to waste money, send it to me.

I would be delighted to. Let me get your full legal Name, phone number, address, bank name and/or routing number, account number(s), social security number and an email address for confirmation. I will get that money over to you ASAP.

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Vice    1,594

I would be delighted to. Let me get your full legal Name, phone number, address, bank name and/or routing number, account number(s), social security number and an email address for confirmation. I will get that money over to you ASAP.

How about you just send the cash to my P.O Box? - Also make it British Pounds Sterling, I don't want any of that American Mickey Mouse money.

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Wyn6    358

How about you just send the cash to my P.O Box? - Also make it British Pounds Sterling, I don't want any of that American Mickey Mouse money.

Sure. But, my father, who is a Nigerian king, has put the money in a trust fund for me. I can get it out early, but there's a penalty for early withdrawal. The penalty is 12%. So, it will cost me $2400 or ?1534. Oh! I have an idea. If you Western Union me the money for the penalty, I can withdraw the remaining funds and send them to you. Deal?

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Vice    1,594

Sure. But, my father, who is a Nigerian king, has put the money in a trust fund for me. I can get it out early, but there's a penalty for early withdrawal. The penalty is 12%. So, it will cost me $2400 or ?1534. Oh! I have an idea. If you Western Union me the money for the penalty, I can withdraw the remaining funds and send them to you. Deal?

Your bank sounds like my wife with these penalties for early withdrawals.

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pack34    224

Your bank sounds like my wife with these penalties for early withdrawals.

HIYOOOOO

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Wyn6    358

Your bank sounds like my wife with these penalties for early withdrawals.

Hah! Alas, I have no comeback for that one.

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Ambroos    803

Could someone clarify what is actually meant with "would you sit on stock"? I couldn't really find a proper idiom that applies here. Does it mean keeping your stock or selling your Microsoft stock?

If I had Microsoft stock right now I'd be selling it before the Windows 8 release, or during if it spikes. I think Microsoft's value will drop massively a few weeks after the release of PC's and laptops that come with Windows 8 pre-installed. Windows 8 is extremely inconsistent, and if there's one thing a regular user can't handle it's inconsistency.

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pack34    224

Could someone clarify what is actually meant with "would you sit on stock"? I couldn't really find a proper idiom that applies here. Does it mean keeping your stock or selling your Microsoft stock?

If I had Microsoft stock right now I'd be selling it before the Windows 8 release, or during if it spikes. I think Microsoft's value will drop massively a few weeks after the release of PC's and laptops that come with Windows 8 pre-installed. Windows 8 is extremely inconsistent, and if there's one thing a regular user can't handle it's inconsistency.

Sitting on it means you own it but you aren't selling it. With Microsoft stock, it's not a growth stock. You make money off of it through dividends. By selling it right now you'd most likely only get an extra couple dollars per stock.

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BajiRav    2,120

Could someone clarify what is actually meant with "would you sit on stock"? I couldn't really find a proper idiom that applies here. Does it mean keeping your stock or selling your Microsoft stock?

If I had Microsoft stock right now I'd be selling it before the Windows 8 release, or during if it spikes. I think Microsoft's value will drop massively a few weeks after the release of PC's and laptops that come with Windows 8 pre-installed. Windows 8 is extremely inconsistent, and if there's one thing a regular user can't handle it's inconsistency.

HAHAHAHAHA

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123456789A    4,708

I wouldn't sit on stock, period.

Not even livestock?

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Active.    1,322

HAHAHAHAHA

What's funny about that?

Explain, in Windows 8, how to:

- get to an application's toolbar

- switch to an application

- quit an application

- go into an application's preferences

- use search in an application

- open a picture

- open two pictures next to each other

- show a web page

- show two web pages next to each other

(?)

Windows 8 is inconsistent because there are two application environments in one.

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Hum    6,929

Poll is missing the "God Yes" option.

I thought you guys did not believe in God ... :shifty:

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+John Teacake    446

I tried buying stock once from MS, wouldn't let me because I'm not from the US. :(

What kind of BS is that? I have had a possission in Microsoft Stock before.

I must admit that from the very few screenshots I have seen of Windows 8 I really dont like the UI. It would look like they have taken a step back from Windows 7

I have a quicker way for you to waste money, send it to me.

Wait until the Buyout Rumours hit then watch that stock skyrocket!

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fix-this!    76

Then we will still see "I told you so thread" just from the other camp.

It could fail if customers that get Windows 8 on their new computer send it back to the OEM demanding they give them a machine with windows 7.

ill be opening up a side business on craigslist offering to re-install w7 on the customers pc's that don't want w8. i might as well make bank on Microsoft's failure.

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BajiRav    2,120

What's funny about that?

Explain, in Windows 8, how to:

- get to an application's toolbar

- switch to an application

- quit an application

- go into an application's preferences

- use search in an application

- open a picture

- open two pictures next to each other

- show a web page

- show two web pages next to each other

(?)

Windows 8 is inconsistent because there are two application environments in one.

I laughed at this part " if there's one thing a regular user can't handle it's inconsistency." and probably should not have bolded the other part. Windows has been inconsistent for as long as I remember (actually no OS I have used has been "consistent") and Windows 8 is no exception to that.

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+warwagon    9,691

ill be opening up a side business on craigslist offering to re-install w7 on the customers pc's that don't want w8. i might as well make bank on Microsoft's failure.

But why should a a custome have to pay an extra $200 on top of what they just paid for the computer. I say if they want windows 7 they call the oem and complain and say they want to exchange it for a windows 7 pc.

Question. Does the RTM of windows 8 still open desktop media in metro apps?

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Active.    1,322

I laughed at this part " if there's one thing a regular user can't handle it's inconsistency." and probably should not have bolded the other part. Windows has been inconsistent for as long as I remember (actually no OS I have used has been "consistent") and Windows 8 is no exception to that.

Metro actually gets this right. Never before has Windows been as consistent as in Metro-land. Only problem is that the other side of Windows is still around and Metro is unable to replace it at this point. Which results in an overall OS that is even less consistent than earlier versions of Windows. Or, as others have called it, a 'schizophrenic' OS.

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BajiRav    2,120

Metro actually gets this right. Never before has Windows been as consistent as in Metro-land. Only problem is that the other side of Windows is still around and Metro is unable to replace it at this point. Which results in an overall OS that is even less consistent than earlier versions of Windows. Or, as others have called it, a 'schizophrenic' OS.

Well that's another point altogether. I was amused by regulars can't handle inconsistency part. Regulars could handle Windows 7, they will be just fine on Windows 8 and as you say more so in the Metro land.

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Quillz    883

In terms of UI consistency, I still think Windows 2000 was the best. It's the last time I can remember virtually every aspect of Windows sharing a common look and feel. From XP onward, it seems there has always been at least two different UI styles (usually Windows' VS vs. the VS of the latest Office).

Maybe look and feel isn't the most important aspect of the OS, but it's what people see. It's what leaves the first impression. And the gross inconsistencies throughout Win8 just speak poorly of the product. If there is one thing Apple does better than Microsoft without question, it's consistency. Can you imagine if Mac OS X still had icons and widgets from System 9 in it? (I'm sure there are a couple, but none visible to the end user.)

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Wyn6    358

What;s funny about that?

Explain, in Windows 8, how to:

- get to an application's toolbar

If using K/M: Right-click, or Win+Z;

If using Touch: Swipe up from bottom.

- switch to an application

If using K/M: Mouse to upper left corner and click through apps; Or... Mouse to upper left corner drag down/Mouse to lower left and drag up>Select desired app

OR... Winkey + Tab to cycle through open Metro apps; Alt + Tab to cycle through ALL open apps.

If using Touch: Swipe out from left side of screen to cycle through open apps.

- quit an application

If using K/M: Mouse to upper/lower left to pull up switcher>right-click on app you wish to close>select close; OR... drag mouse to the top of the app until it becomes a hand>left-click and hold>drag mouse all the way to bottom of the screen

If using Touch: Tap and hold at the top of the screen>Drag your finger to the bottom of the screen

- go into an application's preferences

If using K/M: Move mouse into top right/bottom right corner to pull up Charms Bar; Or... winkey + C>Click on Settings Cog>Select Preferences (if available in that app)

If using Touch: Swipe screen from right>Tap Settings cog>Select Preferences (if available in that app)

- use search in an application

If using K/M: Move mouse into top right/bottom right corner to pull up Charms Bar; Or... winkey + C>Click on Search>Type in query

If using Touch: Swipe screen from right>Tap Search>Type in query

- open a picture

If using K/M: Click on Photos Tile>Find Photo>click it; OR... use Search as above (you can also navigate to any tile on the Start Screen via the arrow keys and select it with enter).

If using Touch: Tap on Photos Tile>Find Photo>Tap it; OR... use Search as above.

- open two pictures next to each other

Open Photos as above>Select Photo; Open Desktop>Select the location of your Photos>Select Photo and open it using a desktop program>Use Snap View to view both

OR... Open both pictures on the desktop as this works the same

- show a web page

Open Internet Explorer either from the Start Screen or on Desktop

- show two web pages next to each other

Use the same combination of desktop and Metro app in Snap View, as above

OR... open two tabs in desktop then separate them and snap them to either side of the screen, or open the second page in a separate window

(?)

Windows 8 is inconsistent because there are two application environments in one.

The Desktop is consistent with what's come before and the Start Screen and its apps are consistent in overall operation. That makes both interfaces, for now, separate but consistent. Once you understand what can be done where, which most people will in their first day of use, Windows 8 should be a breeze.

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Active.    1,322

My point was that in other operating systems it is possible to give ONE simple answer to each of these questions, instead of having to differentiate between the behavior in Metro apps, and how it works for regular apps ( you just assumed for most of these questions that we're talking about a Metro app). And I didn't even think about the fact that it of course works slightly differently again once you bring touch into the equation as well.

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Matthew_Thepc    59

- get to an application's toolbar

Swipe up or right-click.

- switch to an application

put your mouse in the top left corner, or swipe from the left.

- quit an application

drag down from the top.

- go into an application's preferences

Top right -> bottom right or swipe in from the right, then click "settings"

- use search in an application

Top right -> bottom right or swipe in from the right, then click "search"

- open a picture

Open the Pictures app, then click your picture.

- open two pictures next to each other

Open desktop and do it :D

- show a web page

Open Internet Explorer, type in the website you want.

- show two web pages next to each other

Either (a) open IE on the desktop and in Metro, or (b) open IE and Firefox in Metro and do a sidebyside

(?)

Windows 8 is inconsistent because there are two application environments in one.

Except for the average consumer, for which there's only Metro. :|

The only real problems for Windows 8 come when you talk about side-by-side multitasking - but when do consumers really want to do that? If multitasking were so important, why is the iPad selling so well? It can't multitask anywhere near as well as Windows 8...

My point was that in other operating systems it is possible to give ONE simple answer to each of these questions, instead of having to differentiate between the behavior in Metro apps, and how it works for regular apps ( you just assumed for most of these questions that we're talking about a Metro app). And I didn't even think about the fact that it of course works slightly differently again once you bring touch into the equation as well.

THE AVERAGE USER WILL ONLY USE METRO. What need would they have for the desktop (except to run Office)? And Metro, with the Charms bar and App Bars, is actually one of the most consistent UIs I've seen. If I want to search in a Metro app, I open the search charm. And that's how you do it for 100% of Metro apps. If I want to search in Chrome or IE9, it's different than how I search in Firefox and IE8 and below. Same with a lot of desktop apps - but with the charms bar, all major functionality that's shared between Metro apps (like Search, Settings, Devices sharing, and Share) is available from ONE PLACE IN ALL APPS, which IMO is extremely consistent :D

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~Johnny    394

If I even knew how to buy stocks, I'd be all over Microsoft stock right now. And Apple. And Nokia, banking on a bargain there.

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THE AVERAGE USER WILL ONLY USE METRO.

If that's the case (and I doubt it), why would the user choose Windows 8 in the first place? Win32-compatiblity is apparently unimportant. So wouldn't he be better served by an iOS-, Android- or even WinRT-based tablet?

In any case. I've already stated that Metro is in and of itself consistent. But Metro ≠ Windows 8. That's the whole point of the 'no compromise' tagline.

For the record, that would be quite an extraordinary 'achievement', don't you think: For Microsoft to get their user base ? at least as far as regular users are concerned ? to drop every single app they've been using so far the second they start using Windows 8. It's like moving them to a completely new operating system.

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