Schools automatically placing children into sex ed?


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So what's wrong with your kid(s) getting extra education? No one ever died from too much knowledge.

It's our responsibility when it comes to this. Not the schools.

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So what's wrong with your kid(s) getting extra education? No one ever died from too much knowledge.

What's a 10 year old child going to do with this information? Go out and practice what they've learned?

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The email thing is weird though. What could a child possible REQUIRE an email account for. They are in class everyday for hours on end, so its not like getting ahold of them is somehow hard. Are they even legally allowed to open a Google account at that age without parental consent? I know facebook has some policies regarding that but I don't know about Google.

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Are they even legally allowed to open a Google account at that age without parental consent? I know facebook has some policies regarding that but I don't know about Google.

IIRC it's a law that commercial websites can't knowingly sign up children under the age of 13 without parental consent.

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While i dont like the scope of schools these days is there really a harm? I mean there are certain things children may need to know of before they come about, being in the UK talk on puberty was in the same class. Some silly posters on this thread clearly think sex ed is "How to get a boy/girl friend class" it certainly IS NOT.

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I have to say for me the most shocking part of the OPs post is the gmail account. The sex ed is pretty much a given I'd say in any school, and I don't disagree with it being taught, but I do think it's up to a parent if their 10 year old child has an email account, and to manage the responsible use of that account.

If the school are setting up all these email accounts are they seriously going to monitor their usage in the same way a responsible parent would? I can't see it. It's great empowering kids, but really a little too early to be giving them access to email, especially one that the parent's don't know about - that's when things can start to go seriously wrong in naive hands (i.e. young kids!)

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Wasn't sure where to post this. If it is in the wrong place I apologize.

So our youngest daughter comes home today and tells us she is now in sex ed. Not only that, but the teacher has helped the children to create Gmail accts. I mean WTF?!?! I am so upset about this. Wife is on the phone with the school right now over this.

They used to send home info with permission slips. I mean WTF has changed since last year?

Sex education should be a mandatory part of education. It's shocking that you would want to take your child out of such important education and that you distrust the education system so much.

I can tell that few of the posters here actually have children. They would feel completely different about all of this if they did.

No. It has nothing to do with having children, it has to do with common sense. Sex is a reality and children need to be educated about it.

It is a shameful thing but schools think they know better than parents now.

Most of the time they're right.

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I have to say for me the most shocking part of the OPs post is the gmail account. The sex ed is pretty much a given I'd say in any school, and I don't disagree with it being taught, but I do think it's up to a parent if their 10 year old child has an email account, and to manage the responsible use of that account.

If the school are setting up all these email accounts are they seriously going to monitor their usage in the same way a responsible parent would? I can't see it. It's great empowering kids, but really a little too early to be giving them access to email, especially one that the parent's don't know about - that's when things can start to go seriously wrong in naive hands (i.e. young kids!)

I love how this has come full cricle back in my "day" the 2000s when I was 10 or under even I had an email account and shock horror no parental controls on the internet my parents barely understood, I think all this fear over the internet today if it is warrented at all it is a cultural problem not sloved by parental monitoring and parental controls seriously I never went on anything above my age it wouldnt have occured to me even into my teens. I just dont get all this fear over internet use for kids.

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Wasn't sure where to post this. If it is in the wrong place I apologize.

So our youngest daughter comes home today and tells us she is now in sex ed. Not only that, but the teacher has helped the children to create Gmail accts. I mean WTF?!?! I am so upset about this. Wife is on the phone with the school right now over this.

They used to send home info with permission slips. I mean WTF has changed since last year?

uh? for as long as I can remember 4th grade is about when schools start teaching kids about that.. i know we were at that age.. we never had permission slips for that, it was just understood it was part of the ciriculum

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Sex education should be a mandatory part of education. It's shocking that you would want to take your child out of such important education and that you distrust the education system so much.

No. It has nothing to do with having children, it has to do with common sense. Sex is a reality and children need to be educated about it.

Most of the time they're right.

Good job ignoring every single post above your own response where he clearly points out that he and his wife teach them. I'd say a nurse is more qualified to teach sex ed than some underpaid, undertrained public teacher. Considering most schools dont even teach their kids order of operations properly, the fact that anyone trusts them to teach anything important to their kids is just baffling.

I love how this has come full cricle back in my "day" the 2000s when I was 10 or under even I had an email account and shock horror no parental controls on the internet my parents barely understood, I think all this fear over the internet today if it is warrented at all it is a cultural problem not sloved by parental monitoring and parental controls seriously I never went on anything above my age it wouldnt have occured to me even into my teens. I just dont get all this fear over internet use for kids.

Question, how do you monitor your kids email account... that you never knew they had? Parents can't be there 100% of the time. If parents told the kids no and then they are told to do it at school, it is not like they will tell their parents.
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Good job ignoring every single post above your own response where he clearly points out that he and his wife teach them. I'd say a nurse is more qualified to teach sex ed than some underpaid, undertrained public teacher. Considering most schools dont even teach their kids order of operations properly, the fact that anyone trusts them to teach anything important to their kids is just baffling.

Question, how do you monitor your kids email account... that you never knew they had? Parents can't be there 100% of the time.

Granted but would it not therefore just be additional information to be discussed at home with said qualified parents?

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I have kids and will honestly have no problem with my kids taking a sex ed class when the time comes. Having your daughter removed from the class has likely just introduced her to a whole load of needless ridicule from her friends for the next few years. While I can understand wanting to be the sole source of education for your child on these things, there is nothing wrong with supplementary education from the schools also.

The email thing was probably some part of a class about the internet, I recall signing up for yahoo during an internet class many many years ago. Just close the account if its such a big deal to you

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Good job ignoring every single post above your own response where he clearly points out that he and his wife teach them. I'd say a nurse is more qualified to teach sex ed than some underpaid, undertrained public teacher.

When I was in school it was a nurse that was brought in to teach that particular class. Our main teacher worked on grading papers at their desk while this was being taught.

That's why I had also made my comment about having someone who was qualified with medical matters in the family. I had assumed that most schools were as intelligent in their choices as mine. That was a mistake.

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so if you teach your kids to count or the alphabet then the school in turn has no right to teach your kids math or english?? this is why the american education system is utter crap. When a parent doesn't approve they cry and get the kid pulled. There's nothing wrong with the schools teaching your kid something you left out, or failed to say to begin with. Maybe you forgot something, maybe you told the kid god doesn't want her looking at genitalia until they are 30, who knows and who cares. The kids go to class learn whatever and go home. Besides your kid is just gonna hear from the kids that did go what they learned so crying stopped nothing.

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When I was in school it was a nurse that was brought in to teach that particular class. Our main teacher worked on grading papers at their desk while this was being taught.

That's why I had also made my comment about having someone who was qualified with medical matters in the family. I had assumed that most schools were as intelligent in their choices as mine. That was a mistake.

Which is fair because it wasnt said before your post. The post I was responding to ignored everything that was said and went right back to assuming the kids would get 0 sex ed. May have just been a troll attempt? My school wasn't funded enough to have a school nurse assigned to just our school. I think we had 5 nurses spread across 20 elementary schools. It was up to the everyday teacher to read out of a book.
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I'm completely in agreeance with Lo Tec on this matter.

I may not have kids myself, but I still firmly believe that when it comes to matters like Sexual Education, the parents should always have a say as to whether it's the parents or the school that teaches the children.

Lo Tec has already stated that his wife is a nurse, so between the both of them they'd be more than capable of explaining all the necessary information in detail when they feel the time is right.

In situations where the parents may not have all the knowledge to explain to the child, but still want to go about it themselves, I believe the schools should provide materials to the parents to help them explain it all - afterall, the schooling systems are to help expand a child's knowledge, regardless of whether it's the teacher or the parents explaining it.

There are also some benefits to being taught by a parent - I remember when I was in school, and going through Sex Ed, and most kids were way too embarrassed to ask the necessary questions in front of everybody else. In a sit-down environment with parents, I believe there would be less embarrassment and more openness between child and adult.

As for the Gmail account, I believe that's definitely a wrong move on the school's part. Not only am I pretty sure there's a minimum age requirement of 13 for majority of Google's Services, I also believe that 10 years old is too young for a child to have an email account.

Lo Tec, you're definitely right to be upset about all this, and regardless of what everyone else says, I believe you have every right to say yes or no to the school on these matters.

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Good job ignoring every single post above your own response where he clearly points out that he and his wife teach them.

The only reason for withdrawing a child from sex education is to prevent them learning about it. Clearly they are not teaching the child the same things or else there wouldn't be an issue.

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Granted but would it not therefore just be additional information to be discussed at home with said qualified parents?

Should be the other way around though for topics like that. Parents should be warned and given the chance to talk first, then the school fills in the wholes. Not the other way around. But I am all for parental rights and think schools shouldn't be a source of parenting and parents should do their jobs. Apperently I am in the minority in thinking parents should raise their kids though.
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I'm 20 now, my mother is a nurse and I had sex ed when I was 10/11. It's just part of the curriculum here in Belgium. It was really all about the pregnancy cycle and stuff like that. We didn't get anything that had to do with the more pleasurable part until college at 15/16 yo.

Aside that, I think it's good it's included, or at least how all the pregnancy stuff works. It's mostly biology and doesn't have that much to do with actual sex. It's not like they're going to watch porn and analyse it. And I think all children/teens need to just know things. Even though my mother is a nurse even now she's still not able to tell me to use condoms and stuff like that. I can see her trying to tell me from time to time but she never actually manages to say the word. Or say "STD". She's physically incapable of it.

If I hadn't learned at school (and online) I wouldn't have known until I would have gone look it up myself.

Of course I don't have kids (and probably never will) so I can't really know how I'd feel, but I think I wouldn't mind.

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The only reason for withdrawing a child from sex education is to prevent them learning about it. Clearly they are not teaching the child the same things or else there wouldn't be an issue.

And you just managed to show how out of touch with the reality of parenting you are.. done responding to your nonsense in this thread. have a nice day.
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Good job ignoring every single post above your own response where he clearly points out that he and his wife teach them. I'd say a nurse is more qualified to teach sex ed than some underpaid, undertrained public teacher. Considering most schools dont even teach their kids order of operations properly, the fact that anyone trusts them to teach anything important to their kids is just baffling.

Question, how do you monitor your kids email account... that you never knew they had? Parents can't be there 100% of the time. If parents told the kids no and then they are told to do it at school, it is not like they will tell their parents.

You seem to be missing my point I would when I have a child not monitor the account and there by not give into fear of rare events. Well I would one expect the child to question the teacher and the parents to ask the child for once how school was. Just because a child is told make an account for school for devil knows what reason doesnt mean there using it at home.

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