Hitman2000 Share Posted November 13, 2012 What Im having trouble with is the stupid UAC and Admin permissions Ok so you cant turn off UAC completely because then it wont let you run metro apps. Or even if you give admin rights to a user you still get the stupid prompts when trying to write/delete into C: Program Files Unable to run metro apps with the built in admistrator account. Sure i can understand for average joes MS dosent want them to have full access because of security reasons but why is the administrator level privliges and the admin account so crippled!!! Anyone know work arounds for these. Link to post Share on other sites
Shane Nokes Share Posted November 13, 2012 It's best to run your own account, and not the admin account. I think the question is why are you trying to run a less secure rig? 1 Share Link to post Share on other sites
Dot Matrix Share Posted November 13, 2012 What are you doing that you're being prompted so much? It's not crippled, it's doing exactly what it was designed to do. Why are you prodding around Program Files? Link to post Share on other sites
Hitman2000 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 It's best to run your own account, and not the admin account. I think the question is why are you trying to run a less secure rig? I ran the admin account because even after I gave my normal account admin privliges it will still prompt me something similar to " You need admin credientials to copy the file", it just bugged me. What are you doing that you're being prompted so much? It's not crippled, it's doing exactly what it was designed to do. Why are you prodding around Program Files? I have a few games installed and I wanted to manually copy some maps etc. into them and I hate the damn prompts. I tried the take owenership trick and then editing the security policy, but I still cant run metro apps with UAC disabled or through the admin account Link to post Share on other sites
Shane Nokes Share Posted November 13, 2012 Trading security for ease of avoiding a few prompts? Not a good idea imo. 2 Share Link to post Share on other sites
CrossCheck Share Posted November 13, 2012 I have my uac turned off and can run and install metro apps. you might wanna reinstall cuz that sounds like a bug/glitch to me. Link to post Share on other sites
Hitman2000 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 Ok I finally figured it out. Did a bit of searching on the internet and tinkering around. for those who are interested or might want to do the same: So I made a new account, gave it admin privliges,turned UAC back on via registry but set it to never notify in control panel. Took ownership of the program files folder and changed the security policy to let my account have full control of it. So now apps are working and no more annoying messages. Yes I understand I have decreased the security of my system but for my peace of mind it was worth it! and it bringing me a step closer to accepting windows 8. :) 2 Share Link to post Share on other sites
Andrea Borman Share Posted November 13, 2012 Well at the moment I am running Windows 8 RP 32 bit on one of my netbooks that used to have Windows 7. And I just have the one account,the administrator account.But because I am running Windows 8 on a netbook, I don't have any Metro apps. So I just have the ordinary software that I run on Windows 7 and Windows XP. there are one or two software's that don't work well on Windows 8 like they do on windows 7 and the other versions of Windows.So Windows 8 looses a couple of points, but apart from that Windows 8 is very much like Windows 7 and Windows Vista.And I have got the start button and Windows 7 start menu on Windows 8 thanks to Classic Shell. Link to post Share on other sites
Brandon H Supervisor Share Posted November 13, 2012 Well at the moment I am running Windows 8 RP 32 bit on one of my netbooks that used to have Windows 7. And I just have the one account,the administrator account.But because I am running Windows 8 on a netbook, I don't have any Metro apps. So I just have the ordinary software that I run on Windows 7 and Windows XP. there are one or two software's that don't work well on Windows 8 like they do on windows 7 and the other versions of Windows.So Windows 8 looses a couple of points, but apart from that Windows 8 is very much like Windows 7 and Windows Vista.And I have got the start button and Windows 7 start menu on Windows 8 thanks to Classic Shell. thanks for the useless info that has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand besides being related to windows 8 4 Share Link to post Share on other sites
Nashy Share Posted November 13, 2012 Well at the moment I am running Windows 8 RP 32 bit on one of my netbooks that used to have Windows 7. And I just have the one account,the administrator account.But because I am running Windows 8 on a netbook, I don't have any Metro apps. So I just have the ordinary software that I run on Windows 7 and Windows XP. there are one or two software's that don't work well on Windows 8 like they do on windows 7 and the other versions of Windows.So Windows 8 looses a couple of points, but apart from that Windows 8 is very much like Windows 7 and Windows Vista.And I have got the start button and Windows 7 start menu on Windows 8 thanks to Classic Shell. Don't ever change Andrea Borman. 4 Share Link to post Share on other sites
nekrosoft13 Share Posted November 13, 2012 What Im having trouble with is the stupid UAC and Admin permissions Ok so you cant turn off UAC completely because then it wont let you run metro apps. Or even if you give admin rights to a user you still get the stupid prompts when trying to write/delete into C: Program Files Unable to run metro apps with the built in admistrator account. Sure i can understand for average joes MS dosent want them to have full access because of security reasons but why is the administrator level privliges and the admin account so crippled!!! Anyone know work arounds for these. thats another issue i'm having on my server 2012 rig. how can i make "run as administator" the default everytime i start an program. so many times I just double click on an application it starts but then something doesn't functions because it needs admin rights. already have account with admin rights. and don't give me that BS why you want to run less secure rig, I know what i'm doing I know what program i'm running I won't need windows telling what I can, should run or when it should run. haven't really ahd time to look into this yet, upgrading server 2008 r2 to 2012 just introduced so many functionality issues. smartscreen (or what ever its called) its another annoyance. Link to post Share on other sites
Noir Angel Share Posted November 13, 2012 Although i've largely learned to live with UAC on Windows 7, it can still be a pain in the butt at times, especially given that I keep getting prompts whilst performing file operations in Explorer, even in non system directories. Don't get me wrong I prefer not to disable UAC but I can see how it can annoy some people. Link to post Share on other sites
pes2013 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I enabled and use the built in admin account as well :) (On 7) Confirming it exists on 8 too is good :) Link to post Share on other sites
Shane Nokes Share Posted November 13, 2012 For those programs follow these directions: 1. Right-click on the shortcut (or directly on the executable if you wish). 2. Left-click "Properties". 3. Select the "Compatibility" tab. Now in this area there's a couple options available depending on what you want to do. A. Check "Run this program as an administrator" in the "Privilege level" area, if you wish to have only you run this program as an Admin. B. Click on "Change settings for all users", then follow Step A as outlined directly above. That allows all users to run that program as Admin. That will allow for this function on a program by program basis. It will help keep the system more secure as only programs that you select will be allowed to be elevated as a default moving forward. Link to post Share on other sites
Brandon H Supervisor Share Posted November 13, 2012 ^ yep, i do that with a few programs (like the nexus mod manager) Link to post Share on other sites
Dot Matrix Share Posted November 13, 2012 I have my uac turned off and can run and install metro apps. you might wanna reinstall cuz that sounds like a bug/glitch to me. You cannot disable UAC in Windows 8. All you did was remove the prompts. Link to post Share on other sites
Andrea Borman Share Posted November 13, 2012 You cannot disable UAC in Windows 8. All you did was remove the prompts. Well since I have uninstalled Internet Explorer on both Windows 7 and Windows 8 by deleting the program file. UAC has also been uninstalled. So I think that UAC is tied to IE. So when you remove IE,you also uninstall UAC. But I don't miss UAC,as it is very annoying and so is Smart Screen which I have also turned off. Link to post Share on other sites
Wakers Share Posted November 13, 2012 How is Andrea still allowed to post here? 9 Share Link to post Share on other sites
abysal Share Posted November 13, 2012 Once in a while I too like to take a dump in my program files and get prompted by the UAC. 1 Share Link to post Share on other sites
ahhell Share Posted November 13, 2012 Well since I have uninstalled Internet Explorer on both Windows 7 and Windows 8 by deleting the program file. UAC has also been uninstalled. So I think that UAC is tied to IE. So when you remove IE,you also uninstall UAC. But I don't miss UAC,as it is very annoying and so is Smart Screen which I have also turned off. Wow. Just....wow. 5 Share Link to post Share on other sites
Nick H. Supervisor Share Posted November 13, 2012 Once in a while I too like to take a dump in my program files and get prompted by the UAC. I'm confused. What's wrong with wanting to access the Program Files folder in Windows 8 (or Windows in general, for that matter)? As Hitman2000 states he likes to modify his games, and when I was doing that years back there weren't always handy little installation files that did it for you. Link to post Share on other sites
Andrea Borman Share Posted November 13, 2012 Hi Intrinsica, I recognise you from the other thread about WLE 2011. I see you have been promoted to global moderator, congratulations. Link to post Share on other sites
TPreston Share Posted November 13, 2012 Computer Configuration (Enabled) Policies Windows Settings Security Settings Local Policies/Security Options Accounts Policy Setting Accounts: Guest account status Disabled User Account Control Policy Setting User Account Control: Admin Approval Mode for the Built-in Administrator account Enabled User Account Control: Allow UIAccess applications to prompt for elevation without using the secure desktop Enabled User Account Control: Behavior of the elevation prompt for administrators in Admin Approval Mode Elevate without prompting User Account Control: Behavior of the elevation prompt for standard users Automatically deny elevation requests User Account Control: Detect application installations and prompt for elevation Enabled User Account Control: Only elevate executables that are signed and validated Disabled User Account Control: Only elevate UIAccess applications that are installed in secure locations Enabled User Account Control: Run all administrators in Admin Approval Mode Enabled User Account Control: Switch to the secure desktop when prompting for elevation Disabled User Account Control: Virtualize file and registry write failures to per-user locations Enabled ^ Works for me with no UAC prompts its all right for a home network, If you want to mod games disable inheritance for its directory in program files Link to post Share on other sites
Nick H. Supervisor Share Posted November 13, 2012 Thanks, Andrea Borman. (Y) But let's keep this on track. :) Link to post Share on other sites
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