ViperAFK Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I like it, that looks very smart and professional, I could live with a desktop like that, my grumble with Fedora is it seems to take a lot of effort to achieve the same things that are moderately easy to do in other distros I know its all a learning thing, once you learn its easy enough, but not having options on right click such as 'Root menu' to open nautilus as root etc got on my nerves fairly quickly Yeah fedora is a more intermediate distro, whilst ubuntu is aimed at being as beginner-friendly as possible. This, combined with the fact that red hat is completely against including any patent encumbered software makes some aspects of fedora less userfriendly than a distro like ubuntu. But it doesn't take *that* much work to get a setup like that in fedora. For the font rendering, there's the infinality freetype packages, and they have a fedora repo making them easy to install: http://www.infinalit...ity-repository/ Infinality is also very customizable, and you can set it to have any style font rendering you wish (Windows style, OSX style, Ubuntu style etc...) For media codecs and such, they can all be found in the rpmfusion repo: http://rpmfusion.org/ and the rest of my setup is just a gnome-shell theme and icons which are easy to install, copy icons to /usr/share/icons, copy themes to /usr/share/themes etc... The default nautilus in fedora 18 does have some annoying omissions such as no "New Document" in the right click menu (known bug that's fixed upstream in gnome 3.7), but you can get that back by creating an empty text file in the "templates" folder. You can get right click "open in terminal" by installing the nautilus-open-terminal package from the repos, and there's probably a package for right click open as root too (I haven't checked though, but I *think* the beesu package in the repos has some optional nautilus scripts that can put this in the right click menu). Detection 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun N. Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I've been unable to install the current AMD (ATI) drivers for me 7850 so I can then work on setting up Warcraft :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted January 17, 2013 Author Veteran Share Posted January 17, 2013 after updating the kernel from 3.6 something to 3.7 something (via autouptade i guess), it still boots but then i try to start firefox and the whole system freezes (with graphical glitches). that happens only with firefox, i can start other apps normaly... It's the icedtea-web plugin. But disable it isn't enough. You must uninstall it. There is a bug in bugzilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted January 17, 2013 Author Veteran Share Posted January 17, 2013 also i started making this today lol # This is a script setting up Fedora the way I like it# Remove software that I don't wantyum remove brasero evolution rhythmbox firefox # Update fedorayum update# Install reposrpm -Uvh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpmrpm -Uvh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpmwget https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pubrpm --import linux_signing_key.pubecho "[google]name=Google Chrome 64-bitbaseurl=http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/rpm/stable/x86_64" >> /etc/yum.repos.d/google.repo'wget http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/rpm/fedora/virtualbox.repo -O /etc/yum.repos.d/virtualbox.repo# Install Internet stuffyum -y install google-chrome-stable pidgin pidgin-guifications xchat filezilla# Install office and design applicationsyum -y install kate gimp nautilus-image-converter nautilus-sound-converter nautilus-open-terminal libreoffice AdobeReader_enu# Install administration toolsyum -y install gparted gnome-tweak-tool unrar# Install media appsyum -y install vlc# Install desktop customisation tools and eyecandyyum -y install cairo-dock cairo-dock-plug-ins# Install Flashrpm -ivh http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/adobe-release/adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpmrpm --import /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linuxyum -y install flash-plugin# Install Virtual Boxyum -y install dkms gcc kernel-devel VirtualBox-4.1# misc Installsyum -y install faenza-icon-theme[/CODE] not finished yet and apps done by memory as at work today lol Also not been tested because as i say not at my own computer Shaun N. 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Yeah fedora is a more intermediate distro, whilst ubuntu is aimed at being as beginner-friendly as possible. This, combined with the fact that red hat is completely against including any patent encumbered software makes some aspects of fedora less userfriendly than a distro like ubuntu. But it doesn't take *that* much work to get a setup like that in fedora. For the font rendering, there's the infinality freetype packages, and they have a fedora repo making them easy to install: http://www.infinalit...ity-repository/ Infinality is also very customizable, and you can set it to have any style font rendering you wish (Windows style, OSX style, Ubuntu style etc...) For media codecs and such, they can all be found in the rpmfusion repo: http://rpmfusion.org/ and the rest of my setup is just a gnome-shell theme and icons which are easy to install, copy icons to /usr/share/icons, copy themes to /usr/share/themes etc... The default nautilus in fedora 18 does have some annoying omissions such as no "New Document" in the right click menu (known bug that's fixed upstream in gnome 3.7), but you can get that back by creating an empty text file in the "templates" folder. You can get right click "open in terminal" by installing the nautilus-open-terminal package from the repos, and there's probably a package for right click open as root too (I haven't checked though, but I *think* the beesu package in the repos has some optional nautilus scripts that can put this in the right click menu). Thanks for that, I might give F18 another shot in VMWare later today armed with the disable 3D Acceleration info and your tips and see how I get on I don't mind intermediate as long as it eventually makes sense :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted January 17, 2013 Author Veteran Share Posted January 17, 2013 and there's probably a package for right click open as root too (I haven't checked though, but I *think* the beesu package in the repos has some optional nautilus scripts that can put this in the right click menu). yum install nautilus-gksu[/CODE] should work, might have to log out and back in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun N. Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Gah, where is the favourite post option when i need it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 yum install nautilus-gksu[/CODE] should work, might have to log out and back in Last time I checked fedora does not have gksu in its repos, but instead an alternative called beesu. so for fedora [b][font=Consolas, Monaco,]yum install beesu nautilus[/font][font=Consolas, Monaco,]-[/font][font=Consolas, Monaco,]beesu[/font][font=Consolas, Monaco,]-[/font][/b][font=Consolas, Monaco,][b]manager[/b] should do the trick.[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted January 17, 2013 Author Veteran Share Posted January 17, 2013 sorry my bad you are absolutely correct heres a page on how to set it up https://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/1873/is-there-a-nautilus-gksu-equivalent-for-fedora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted January 17, 2013 Author Veteran Share Posted January 17, 2013 twice now i have booted to the live cd in Virtual box and went to do an install and both times after an hour was only at 30% installed hoping its not gonna do this when i install it on SSd in a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun N. Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Got it installed, but when getting the ATI drivers installed it wont save my dual screen config and just keeps going back to mirror after a reboot - I also read there is an issue with security signing with alot of software atm, like Google Chome won't install Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Got it installed, but when getting the ATI drivers installed it wont save my dual screen config and just keeps going back to mirror after a reboot - I also read there is an issue with security signing with alot of software atm, like Google Chome won't install install downloaded packages via the terminal to workaround the gpg key issues: yum localinstall packagename.rpm, it should automatically prompt to import the gpg key (installing packages via double clicking on the rpm should do this too, but the bug you mentioned is a packagekit bug which is why its not working via the gui atm). To skip key check completely you can do: yum --nogpgcheck localinstall packagename.rpm. And with google chrome its possible to add the chrome repo first and install it right from the repo: http://www.if-not-tr...a-red-hat-rhel/ Shaun N. 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun N. Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 install downloaded packages via the terminal to workaround the gpg key issues: yum localinstall packagename.rpm, it should automatically prompt to import the gpg key (installing packages via double clicking on the rpm should do this too, but the bug you mentioned is a packagekit bug which is why its not working via the gui atm). To skip key check completely you can do: yum --nogpgcheck localinstall packagename.rpm. And with google chrome its possible to add the chrome repo first and install it right from the repo: http://www.if-not-tr...a-red-hat-rhel/ got it thanks! - Now just to stop my graphics card from mirroring my screens instead of extending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerowen Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I know that, I was asking Viper for his themes/customization. Thanks. Oh I thought you were being sarcastic, sorry, :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 got it thanks! - Now just to stop my graphics card from mirroring my screens instead of extending. extends by default for me in f18 (plugged it into my tv via hdmi last night to watch a movie and thats what it did, fresh install of f18). It also seems to remember the setting when I unplug/replag the hdmi cable, but I'm on intel graphics :) I've heard nvidia/ati's proprietary drivers tend to do weird things with dual monitors lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted January 18, 2013 Author Veteran Share Posted January 18, 2013 any of you guys got this installed from the live cd into a VM? did it take ages to install? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted January 18, 2013 Author Veteran Share Posted January 18, 2013 did a net install to the VM went through it fine said all done and i should reboot, closed down the VM and reopened it and i get Welcome to GRUB then a black screen and it goes no further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacon Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Thanks! I finally have an excuse to mess with Linux again, and to convince my friend to try it! Fedora is the best tweak OS that is actually convenient out of the box. I love the concepts behind Slackware and such, but not having a package manager is uuugh... and I just can't be arsed to set up Arch every time I screw it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerowen Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 did a net install to the VM went through it fine said all done and i should reboot, closed down the VM and reopened it and i get Welcome to GRUB then a black screen and it goes no further Working fine for me. Here's a screenshot that contains some of the details, but here's the basics of my setup. Host OS: Ubuntu Linux 12.10 64 bit VirtualBox 4.2.6 64 bit with exetnsion pack installed. Used the Gnome Live disc from the Fedora website. Gnome 3 is a bit sluggish in this VM, probably something to do with me using the open source graphics drivers since AMD doesn't support my card on Linux any more, but it is functional enough to play around with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted January 19, 2013 Author Veteran Share Posted January 19, 2013 Got it done eventually kept getting a grub error its a known bug so got it fixed now working on my setup script so i can install F18 on SSD in a few weeks run the script and leave it to set itself up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted January 19, 2013 Author Veteran Share Posted January 19, 2013 I now have my Fedora Setup Scripts done for new installs for me I tried them out on a VM and they make a big difference lol Still gonna see if i can add more Customisations to them # This is a script will remove the apps i dont want, install additional repos and update the system# Remove software that I don't wantyum -y remove brasero evolution rhythmbox firefox cheese empathy gnome-games shotwell sound-juicer# Install reposrpm -Uvh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpmrpm -Uvh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpmwget https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pubrpm --import linux_signing_key.pubecho "[google]name=Google Chrome 64-bitbaseurl=http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/rpm/stable/x86_64" >> /etc/yum.repos.d/google.repowget http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/rpm/fedora/virtualbox.repo -O /etc/yum.repos.d/virtualbox.reporpm -ivh http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/adobe-release/adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpmrpm --import /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linux# Update fedorayum -y update[/CODE] [CODE]# This will install additional software that i use# Install Internet stuffyum -y install google-chrome-stable pidgin pidgin-guifications xchat filezilla# Install office and design applicationsyum -y install kate gimp nautilus-image-converter nautilus-sound-converter nautilus-open-terminal libreoffice# Install administration toolsyum -y install gparted gnome-tweak-tool unrar# Install media appsyum -y install vlc# Install desktop customisation tools and eyecandyyum -y install cairo-dock cairo-dock-plug-ins# Install Flashyum -y install flash-plugin# misc Installsyum -y install faenza-icon-theme# Install Virtual Boxyum -y install dkms gcc kernel-devel VirtualBox-4.1[/CODE] guitmz 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Spork) Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 gotta love the trolls :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagosilva29 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I'll probably install it later in the evening. Can't stop laughing at Anaconda's inconsistencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aergan Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Can't get it to boot into a GUI on my laptop. Throws up an error just after Plymouth has loaded. WIll try it on a VM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted January 19, 2013 Author Veteran Share Posted January 19, 2013 Aergan do u get as far as login screen or do u get Welcome to grub then nothing? On another note i just used FEDUP to upgrade from 17 to 18 and all went through fine :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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