SupportGeek Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Why is that relevant to this topic? Because it demonstrates a consistent culture of abuse of power, whereby scaremongering by the government and media results in the general public becoming accepting of ever more extreme infringements of the personal liberties.\ I find it interesting that you can come to these conclusions, yet still make statements in the gun control threads that amount to claims that the US government is not leaning into tyrrany, so there is no need to arm the citizenry. They do not need a bunch of untrained Bounty Hunters getting in their way. Yea, wouldn't want to chance this guy gets brought in alive or anything. LAPD have no intention of bringing this guy in, they want to shut him up, they dont want his story out, as evidenced by the shoot first and ask questions later policy when confronting pick up trucks recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted February 12, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted February 12, 2013 They found him: http://www.foxnews.com/ http://video.foxnews...d=1155606216001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted February 12, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted February 12, 2013 http://www.cbsnews.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 http://www.cbsnews.com/ Can't see if he was killed or not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted February 12, 2013 MVC Share Posted February 12, 2013 wow, LL Cool J sure let himself go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 The news cast keeps saying, "If he is in it".... like they are unsure. Can't see if he was killed or not ? Nothing yet. They keep saying, "they believe they have him in it (the cabin)." But there hasn't been any actual confirmation. Trust but verify. I prefer to keep leery and verify :p Also, they think there may be hostages now. Detection 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted February 12, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted February 12, 2013 Two deputies were wounded, I believe that he is in that cabin. Why would any other person shoot at the deputies? watching live news stream here http://usnews.nbcnew...n-big-bear?lite in a way i hope he gets away. He doesn't seem to be targeting unrelated people such as the police are. Yeah he had two hostages, but he didnt seem to hurt them and one was able to escape. To me the guy still seems like a good guy that got ****ed way over and it ruined his life. Sure he could be crazy, but seems they drove him to that point. Not saying what he's doing is right though, no one should eve be killed. You want a killer to get away? Strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Two deputies were wounded, I believe that he is in that cabin. Why would any other person shoot at the deputies? Just listened to the shoot-out on CBS live stream, thought I heard them shout 'He's down' but then there was more shooting so I guess not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted February 12, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted February 12, 2013 We will get the truth verified shortly. I doubt the Police will take a long time dealing with this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Seems they are still stopping and checking vehicles coming down the mountain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted February 12, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted February 12, 2013 He has been ID'd by two Fish & Game Officers who 1st confronted him. Per Fox news TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted February 12, 2013 Global Moderator Share Posted February 12, 2013 watching live news stream here http://usnews.nbcnew...n-big-bear?lite in a way i hope he gets away. He doesn't seem to be targeting unrelated people such as the police are. Yeah he had two hostages, but he didnt seem to hurt them and one was able to escape. To me the guy still seems like a good guy that got ****ed way over and it ruined his life. Sure he could be crazy, but seems they drove him to that point. Not saying what he's doing is right though, no one should eve be killed. So you condone Monica Quan's death? This dude is a murderer...nothing more and nothing less. If they can not bring him to justice then taking him down like the dog he is will be justified. Dorner may have been wronged by the LAPD...but whatever their actions were do not justify Dorner going around killing cops. +Gary7 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 yes thats what i said :rolleyes: I like how people only read what they want to hear, and ignore the rest. Such as the last line in my post. I just hope everyone is brought to justice in this situation, including, and especially the police. I have the same mentality you do. It's not right, but it's what is needed. blank and Ph1b3r0pt1c 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted February 12, 2013 Global Moderator Share Posted February 12, 2013 yes thats what i said :rolleyes: I like how people only read what they want to hear, and ignore the rest. Such as the last line in my post. I just hope everyone is brought to justice in this situation, including, and especially the police. ok, so you want a murderer to get away to kill more? Getting closer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I hope he is brought in alive and made to account for his crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Live streams seem to have all gone down EDIT - Back up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motoko. Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 objective: survive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted February 12, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted February 12, 2013 I have the same mentality you do. It's not right, but it's what is needed. If one of the 3 people he killed was your Brother would you feel the same?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motoko. Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 If one of the 3 people he killed was you Brother would you feel the same?? His "brother" should know before hand what he's getting involved into. It's law enforcement and it's a life endangering job. Letting emotions that block out common sense never made a good argument over anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 If one of the 3 people he killed was your Brother would you feel the same?? If any of my family was a police officer anymore ( my uncle used to be , but quit because of the corruption ) , I would still understand his cause. I would be sad for the lost, and angry too. But my hate would be more directed towards the broken system that makes people have to do such a thing to even get a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789A Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 They should call in Keanu Reeves in case the former officer puts a bomb on a bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted February 12, 2013 Global Moderator Share Posted February 12, 2013 His "brother" should know before hand what he's getting involved into. It's law enforcement and it's a life endangering job. Letting emotions that block out common sense never made a good argument over anything. If any of my family was a police officer anymore ( my uncle used to be , but quit because of the corruption ) , I would still understand his cause. I would be sad for the lost, and angry too. But my hate would be more directed towards the broken system that makes people have to do such a thing to even get a chance. ...and one of the victims was your daughter who was nothing but a simple basketball coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted February 12, 2013 Global Moderator Share Posted February 12, 2013 Another deputy has died (1 of the 2 that were shot earlier). :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motoko. Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 ...and one of the victims was your daughter who was nothing but a simple basketball coach? There goes it again, pandering with hypothetical thought and emotions that didn't happen. If I want things the change, the work no one wants to deal with needs to be done or else it turns into a bigger mess endangering innocent lives like we're witnessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted February 12, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted February 12, 2013 Another deputy has died (1 of the 2 that were shot earlier). :( Well this should make two Neowin members happy. :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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