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i mean, did the Architect make her or something? well obviously not. so why does the Oracle know everything? and she said all the architect is trying to do is to balance the equation, and she's here to unbalance it, why so??

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the Wachoskis' used a lot of philosophy,

the books of philosophy they read,inspired them to do this movie.

They did exactly what they wanted to do, left people with so many questions.

Just like philosophy, so if you're waiting for a 4th matrix to come out...

well...

I guess you just didn't understand.

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i mean, did the Architect make her or something? well obviously not. so why does the Oracle know everything? and she said all the architect is trying to do is to balance the equation, and she's here to unbalance it, why so??

No. She is a program just like The architect is.

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can someone answer these questions for me...?

1. who actually writes all the new programs for the matrix?

2. who won the war?

3. when the matrix was rebuilt, was anyone (humans) freed/unplugged from it? someone said something about the humans had a choice if they wanted to leave it or not, but wouldnt all the machines be destoryed if everyone leaves the matrix?

4. anyone else find that funny where neo was stuck at the train station and he just said 'sh*t'?

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Ok..

About the nuclear power, How easy can people that are *unplugged* destroy that! :pinch:

Just drop a bomb on it, a EMP, whatever.. and gone is your damn power machines!

Did you ever saw a Human destroy it's fellow human in a war agianst something else than humans?

That's 1. A pretty hard person ( there aren't many of em)

or 2. A traitor

So Just imagine that cows and that got nuked and died becouse of the black skies.. no more food, damn you die!

So wtf no Nuclear power, too easy to destroy, just put in humans becouse their only left!

And None of the unplugged humans ( almost none..) will destroy his own race or to believe you guys, neptillions i heard?

let's keep it on a ****ing lot humans, destroy ''alot humans'' in a time the machines won't kick your arse

so the using humans idea is actually a protection too

Do i got a point or not?

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The Oracle.. is a program MADE! to let the *plugged* people in the matrix, make a choice!.. she makes the choice for you!

Else some people will start asking questions.. that's not very nice for some of the programs and this could end into a helpless situation of people coming up with facts

Who makes new programs..?.. think..think.. a program? duh

who made that program.. uh.. the architect.. ( not a ****in program, just a MACHINE who is that and transported *plugged * himself into the matrix after he was done,.. or just maybe a stopid human )

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3. when the matrix was rebuilt, was anyone (humans) freed/unplugged from it? someone said something about the humans had a choice if they wanted to leave it or not, but wouldnt all the machines be destoryed if everyone leaves the matrix?

NO-ONE was freed! or unplugged! , like dozer and those dudes they have no plugs, 100% pure human they say

So the machines clone ppl, put in plugs on the clone process.. ( don't go into details.. see it as eggcells getting implants )

they just cloned a few guys and women without plugs.. drop em over there.. they rebuild it all

If the human race would be destroyed.. all humans would die, end off story for the machines 2

Ok.. :) tell me what you guys think about it, read this with alot of fun and intresst that some of you can think that much about something! saw things that never came up into my head

Greetz

Storm =FoT=

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i mean, did the Architect make her or something? well obviously not. so why does the Oracle know everything? and she said all the architect is trying to do is to balance the equation, and she's here to unbalance it, why so??

The machines made the Oracle. They discovered, like the Architect stated, a perfect world didn't work. So she was one of the "unperfect" variables in one of the equations. Her knowing everything is one of the variables. Her unbalancing it vs his balancing is yet another variable. She counters what he does.

can someone answer these questions for me...?

1. who actually writes all the new programs for the matrix?

2. who won the war?

3. when the matrix was rebuilt, was anyone (humans) freed/unplugged from it? someone said something about the humans had a choice if they wanted to leave it or not, but wouldnt all the machines be destoryed if everyone leaves the matrix?

1) the machines and the other programs

2) the war didn't finish. Neo made the deal for peace during the war. So I guess you could say Zion won. But in the end, both sides got what they wanted

3) Not sure what you mean about the matrix being rebuilt. The Oracle made the point to the Architect to make sure those who wanted out of the Matrix could get out, which he agreed to. Some wouldn't want to leave the Matrix. What's his face from the first movie wanted back in.

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"for logic sake, why in the frickin world would the machines use humans as batteries!!"

Inifinite multiplying supply of thermal, kinetic, energy.

Watch animatrix.

so if its infinite supply of energy, why use HUMANS????

is the AI so spiteful to use humans??

i think you're missing the main point of my statement.

by thermo dynamic laws, cows are a better source of heat energy and their

consumption of "food" is simple and easily replicated as apposed to humans

where our diet can be very different. look at vegans, they have the energy

of a primarly meat eating people, they have a lower heart rate and this lower

heat output.

again, why not better sources of fuel?? nuclear energy is almost infinite.

w/ little effort the machines could make, run and maintain a nuclear plant.

it would generate over 1000 times the energy than 5 million people in stasus

so to have the equivelent you would need 5 billion people to equal 1 nuclear plant.

5 billion!!!! thats an assload of people and you would have to maintain them ALL!!!

imagine the cost of energy to do that. not very efficient at all!! its a waste

if i were the machines, i would exterminate the vast majority of the humans,

build about 10 nuke plants, build up stock piles of weapons and wipe the

humans off the face of the planet. after that i would make the effort to clean up

the sky by the means of setting off incinderary bombs to vaporize the clouds and

get the sun lite to have more energy. coal, fossile fuel, hydo, wind powered options would

be ideal too!!

Because using a nuclear power plant doesn't make for an interesting story. Using cows doesn't make for an interesting story. Using people does. That is all. Stop looking into it, there is nothing more to it than that.

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I have 2 questions.

1. The architecht. Is he a program?

2. The french dude. What is he doing? As far as i understood in Revolutuions, he had some connection to the train transporting programs. Is he the one who makes them?

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why did the machines even create the matrix? hello? just put them all asleep and paralyze them. then, even if they wake up, they can't do anything, and all of your problems are eliminated. too much oversight for a machine, which (according to the animatrix) was very smart.

because they use them as their powersource. the human body can't live without the mind. they have to simulate a world for the humans, so they produce power for the machines.

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there will be or atleast should be a 4th movie!!

No, the story is over. Most of the ppl wanna see something more, thats why think that should be a 4th or 5th...

Like Terminator... Its over

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It's over because everything has an end. It has now come to the end, and the architecht has rebuild the matrix again after agent smith took control and destroyed it. All what the machines wanted was peace. They now got it. Zion is just a place where they put people with rebel minds they can't control in the matrix. Now the machines got peace, and the people in Zion got peace. The Matrix has been rebuild as it has been before, there's peace, THE END.

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and Shifty, you have to watch the 3 movies again or 4 movies (yea, Animatrix).

Humans arent batteries in the plane sence of the word (yea in matrix 1 morpheus say that BTU crap, but that as you know, isnt sufficient to power anything). Machines uses humans like bioprocessors. Isnt a bad idea after all.

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I THINK DA MEROVINGIAN WAS DA 1ST ANOMALY AND PERSEPHONE IS TO HIM WHAT TRINITY IS TO NEO, AS FOR DA TWINS IM SURE THEY SURVIVED AS IT MADE A POINT OF SHOWING THEM SAIL ABOVE DA EXPLOSION SO I WAS BAFFLED NOT TO SEE THEM MAKE AN APPERANCE

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Ok..

About the nuclear power, How easy can people that are *unplugged* destroy that!  :pinch:

Just drop a bomb on it, a EMP, whatever.. and gone is your damn power machines!

Did you ever saw a Human destroy it's fellow human in a war agianst something else than humans?

The point of the thoery was that there were no humans, which in turn means no threat, which means that the power plant annot be destroyed. All they had to do was grab a cow, during the war and clone it.

Whilst Im here I'll say this. Why should I be able to go to a movie, but in able to understand it I had to watch the aniatrix, play Enter the Matrix and to see the end of the 'FINAL CHAPTER' I have to play some stupid online game that you have to pay for monthly. THIS IS A CRAP TRILOGY FOR THIS REASON. I thought the trilogy was ok until the end, then I had to go back and pick at everything else in the trilogy

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i have a question:

there was a scene in Reloaded where some people in white suits controlling the gate to Zion; is these people in the Matrix?

i took it as they were in a "construct" program so they could sit in front of a lot of computer screens that couldnt actually be done in the real world (due to resources and other factors) i figured that let them bypass the limitations and sit infront of all those computers,

but i KNOW they are NOT in the matrix (regarless if im wrong on my theory of them above)

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i have a question:

there was a scene in Reloaded where some people in white suits controlling the gate to Zion; is these people in the Matrix?

i took it as they were in a "construct" program so they could sit in front of a lot of computer screens that couldnt actually be done in the real world (due to resources and other factors) i figured that let them bypass the limitations and sit infront of all those computers,

but i KNOW they are NOT in the matrix (regarless if im wrong on my theory of them above)

I believe it would be to dangerous for them to be in the Matrix

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i still dont understand why some of you dont understand my theory.  Most of you hit on stuff and then turn around and contradict yourselves.

think of this way, why in world would you put a human santuary so close to the main city of the machines?  wouldnt you want to put it on the otherside of the world.

it took neo and trinity like 10 seconds to get above ground, find the main city and crash land where the Source was.  weird huh? 

also w/ the use of humans as energy, again i CANT stress this enough, it would take MORE effort = energy to build and maintain such a crappy system.

so what if they cloned trillions of humans, it would take them atleast a thousand years to do so.  why not build like 10 nuke plantsin 1 month?? 

easier to build, maintain and get infinitly better efficent energy!!  and a VR world?  use a cow!! no need for a stupid VR system and you can chemically

sedate the cows forever!!  an elephant would be better since they can live just as long as humans and produce a better BTU rate.

I find it funny that you happen to think Nuclear Power Plants are "advanced". Just because its technology we use today, doesn't mean it is by far advanced. Even the most simplistic things are more advanced than what we have today. Why do you assume its a crappy system? Because of what we have with nuclear power? Simplicity. A power plant costs a lot more than just to clone a human and absorb it. =) Stop comparing the movies to todays standards. You can't, and I don't think the Wachowski Brothers had any intention of doing so. Therefore, using the whole nuclear power plant idea can't be compared to so, since you have to think far fetched future. Use a cow ... ... heh, where would the movie be then?

Why do you also assume it would take a thousand years to do so? Remember that the movie is supposed to not take place today, but, in all actuallity, we assume, in the far fetched future. So maybe today it make take a thousand years to clone so many humans, but again, your not thinking what the movie is implying. Future. Advanced technology. Cloning takes seconds.

Yea, it took Neo and Trinity 10 seconds ... blah blah blah .... IT IS A MOVIE. Do you think their going to make you sit for 30 minutes or an hour of the movie for them to travel through a vast machine city. God, I would walk out of that was the case. BORING. So yea, 10 seconds, but thats because its a movie ... and you can't make people sit through pointless ****. Ya know?

As for the rest of your stuff that is your "theory", stop making so many assumptions. Your going wayyy to far then what has been intended. And truthfully, your theories really don't make sense, and after re-reading them again and again, really make no sense.

IT IS A MOVIE. I've never seen sombody go so far into creating a theory just to prove a director wrong.

Maybe you should make a theory on Star Wars and how NOTHING that they protray could happen in real space (i.e. explosions in space, the areodynamics of the ship and what it is made of and being able to travel through space, hypespace travel (which there is a book on and is quite intellectual and interesting about this), robotics, laser swords that end at a certain wavelength without control, powers that extend past the human mind, being able to electrify material out of your fingertips, choking people without using your hands, I could keep going on).

Its a movie. If your going to analyze it so much, your taking the fun out of the movie.

I could go on and on about all the historical, religious, and biblical references that were put in the movie (and yes, Neo was portrayed in a crucified position as the "supposed" Christ). But whats the point? I was talking to my friend the other day about all that stuff and he made a good point: "Dude, its a movie. Don't take all the fun out of the movie but analyzing it so much."

Essentially, I'm sure Directors and Producers don't look into the law of physics and what is the most efficient thing to do in real life. They don't look at the "rights and wrongs of physics" ... they don't make such analyzations. They make a movie. They write a story that will prove to be interesting. And again, they are making a movie.

I thought they were all good. Hardly 5 star movies, maybe 3.5 stars, but certainly not 1 star movies. And if you claim, like a Detroit Newspaper, that its a 1 star movie, then you need to watch some bad movies out there. Its far from that.

Its an interesting series. Its intellectual, and different than most movies out there. And we all know that it set the standard for everyone else (aka, bullet time).

Granted some parts were lame, some parts were slow and boring, but all and all, as a whole, it was a damn cool series.

Well then, with that said ..... yea.

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1.  Shifty its an intresting perspective to the movies, but movies are movies, and what we saw was the movie, and how it concluded. 

2.  Did anyone not try and find a remote control to fast-forward past the trinity/neo crap, particulary at the end.

3.  I gotta say Smith was alot cooler, when he didnt fly.  He kept his cool. and he had no emotions. Personally I feel revolutions ruined the smith villian, but what can you do.

4.  Has anyone else noticed a current trend in hollywood to leave big blockbuster movie, without any shred of a definitive ending.  Most recent movies that come to mind are T3, and now the matrix.  Theres gotta be a point were you put making money off a hundred sequels aside, and just god damn give the fans whove paid money to see all the other movies in the series, a god-damn proper ending.  I mean come on. T3, and the matrix was left with such a wide open ending you could back another 5 sequels into the damn thing.

5.  Despite these apparent ramblings or rants, all in all my only major gripe with the movie was the ending, apart from that was time and entertainment well spent.

i say u summed it up pretty good.... :cool:

EDIT: rkenshin - excatly....

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This point was raised quite a while ago but I will address it anyway.

At the end the matrix was changed, i think it was "Reloaded" to undo the damage Smith had caused. The cat walked past then it changed then it walked past again. "Deja-Vu" like in the Matrix. Then the Matrix apperaed as "Normal" colours instead of green. I think this was because it was a new build of the Matrix a different version that people were allowed to leave if they wanted to.

But as Morpheus said in The Matrix not everybody would want to leave some are hopelessly enurged in The Matrix and will even "Fight to protect it."

I just had an after thought. The only things we see in the last scene are programs, The cat, the oracle, the architect and the little girl.

Maybe we are seeing the Matrix through their eyes and they see it as normal because it is their world.

I have only seen it once. When I see it again I will no doubt understand it better.

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