isus Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 the one that sells more must be doing something right. i thought that would be obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifgriffin Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 They did something right by getting better press attention and hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling3k12 Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 As long as you pay 10 dollars a month...you have ondemand music...online and offline. That is a steal. All the music you "PAID" for? Think again, you rented the music, bozo. You wouldn't get that much music...even the right to listen to it...from iTunes for 10 bucks. Why would I want to RENT music? Um... I rent a movie, I rent a car, I rent a tuxedo for Prom, I rent a Rug Doctor from the store... I don't rent music. I mean, why would you want to rent music? What's the joy with that. You get it, you listen to it, and... whoa, I can't burn these? I can't keep these after the service goes bye bye? Can I listen to this on my way to work? "Oh man, I need to go to the store... lemme just burn this to... oh wait... NO! WTF! I CAN'T DO THAT?! WHAT A RIP!" Yeah, that's why I don't rent music, what's the idea behind that... And what if I want to listen to some radio through Napster? "I'm in the mood for some hip-hop... lemme just find a channel... what the hell? They want me to sign up for Napster Premium or whatever just so I can listen to net radio?! Funk that shiz!" Really... Napster should have been re-named... the great legacy it had is now tarnished to the end of the world by this half-assed attempt from Roxio on a iTMS competitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifgriffin Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 What legacy? Theft? Nice legacy. Yeah, rent music...like renting videos? And if you keep paying the monthly fee, you can listen to it as much as you like. And as I said, you can put it on MP3 players that support WMA, the license will expire if you do not renew it. It works, people are going to use it...a lot of people. For the songs they reallly love, they'll go ahead and buy and burn. Just like iTunes. As far as radio, this is the only issue that iTunes has any serious leg up. Personally, I don't even use it. I use these for their primary purpose...buying music. This thread is full of amazingly stupid defenses of iTunes. Let's see... 1. "iTunes rocks because its...OMG...by APPPPPPLEEEE!!! 2. It rocks because Napster has a premium service that itunes doesn't have and that I don't understand! 3. It's awesome because they sold 1.5 millions songs! 4. It's awesome because I have an iPod!!! Or. 5. It's awesome because I interviewed some friends and they like OGG, ACC, and least of all WMA! Go iTunes!! Do you people even try to put together and intelligent argument? I mean sheesh, I offer explanation of fuctionality and how it can benefit a user, and you offer emotional hogwash. I'd like to hear one, level headed review of iTunes that doesn't make its case on how much Napster's premium service must suck. Clif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuarterSwede Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 (edited) 1. Apple is overrated and overpriced but this is actually a great program. 2. It is free to browse the iTunes Music Store entire catalog. 3. It sells songs because it's easy to use, and let's face it, it's been around a bit longer. 4. I don't have an iPod and I use it. 5. I, myself, use .aac and .ogg. I don't use .wma because, personally, I don't think it sounds as good at the same quality level. iTunes is just much, and I stress much, easier to use; which is most likely why it sells more music. I have used both and let's face it, Napster was better when it was mostly used for illegal deeds. Now it just leaves a bad taste in ones mouth. Edited November 7, 2003 by Jstphish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifgriffin Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 1. I agree. and I agree. 2. It's free to browse the entire Napster catalog...or so I thought. 3. Napster has nearly an indentical interface. 4. That was me a few weeks ago, but as I said..I do own a pocket pc and that makes napster worth it alone. 5. Fine, if you want to have to use the most featurless audio player ever..iTunes every time you want to play your music, be my guest. ;) People think I'm trashing iTunes, I'm not. I'm questioning how versatile it is for Windows users, especially those without an ipod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairon Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 But does Napster let you browse the entire catalog for that monthly fee?I don't think so. Rent music?WTF? Lame.I feel sorry for Samsung who made that stupid player for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifgriffin Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 But does Napster let you browse the entire catalog for that monthly fee?I don't think so.Rent music?WTF? Lame.I feel sorry for Samsung who made that stupid player for it. They allow to rent most of the music....and more than iTunes lets you which is none. And yes, renting music has its appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifgriffin Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6450_7-5102324-1.html That sums it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redestium Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 But does Napster let you browse the entire catalog for that monthly fee?I don't think so.Rent music?WTF? Lame.I feel sorry for Samsung who made that stupid player for it. They allow to rent most of the music....and more than iTunes lets you which is none. And yes, renting music has its appeal. What appeal would that be? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifgriffin Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 But does Napster let you browse the entire catalog for that monthly fee?I don't think so.Rent music?WTF? Lame.I feel sorry for Samsung who made that stupid player for it. They allow to rent most of the music....and more than iTunes lets you which is none. And yes, renting music has its appeal. What appeal would that be? :huh: Umm...the same appeal listening to any CD you want, anywhere you want for only 10 bucks a month would have? People rent because they do not want to buy. If I had the service, I'd listen to lots of songs I like but not enough to warrant buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling3k12 Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 You're limited to 3 computers with songs from Napster. Says it right on the Special Features about Napster Premium page. So can I burn this song to a CD? I'm gonna say no. Why would they do that? Theoretically you could download and burn 1000 songs and only pay $9.95 a month, which you can't do. I can't play them in my car, my stereo, my home theater, or any of that, because to burn it would be absurd for Napster to do. So that leaves me with my computer and a compatible MP3 player. Fine. But here's a kicker, when you cancel the service, don't pay your bill, credit card isn't accepted, among any other points where something can happen, can you guarantee that you'll still be able to listen to those songs you rented? No, because they have no way of knowing you got all those songs and you're just screwing them for the $10 deal. Now you've got useless music sitting on your hard drive that you can't do a damn thing with. Either way, no matter what, I still think the rented thing is stupid. When I want to get a song, I want it to be mine. I don't want to give it back. I don't rent games for the same reason... if I'm gonna get a game, it's gotta be worth my money. Renting a movie, yeah, it's cheap, a few bucks here, 2-3 hours max and I'll probably never watch it again. When I buy a movie, it's either a excellent movie (such as Lord of the Rings or the two Matrix movies out on DVD) and it's worth my time and money. A song, it gets thrown into a playlist, I listen to it all the time. I still have CD's from 1998 that I still open and listen to (actually, they've been put into my iTunes library, so I just click to listen to it, the CD is still there, but this is more convenient). Go ahead and rent them, but when you can't do whatever you want with them, it's not my problem. The only thing I can't do with my AAC's is put them on some cheap ass Flash Memory MP3 player with 512MB that will only hold... oh... 50 or so of my 2000+ song collection or on some iPod wannabe that can't match up. Honestly, I played with them at the store, and what's so damn hard about making something so simple as the iPod, where it takes me just a few seconds to navigate through and get a song, compared to others where I have to break it down and go and go and go until I can get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifgriffin Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 I recommend you don't get the premium service then. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairon Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 I recommend you don't get the premium service then. :rolleyes: Wow, that was some reply to his post! He must really have a point! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifgriffin Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 Wow, that was some reply to his post! He must really have a point! :D Well I never said it would be fit for everyone. I said it'd work for me. And students at <whatever the college it was> are going to complain over getting any song they want, any time, legally. I think to attack a feature that iTunes doesn't have, to show that iTunes is the best is just silly. Clif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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