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200mph isn't that fast? LOL!!! It is fast for a land vehicle. Come to think of it, didn't the person who broke the sound barrier by putting a jet engine in a car do some serious body modifications to the car he put the engine in to keep it from aeroplaning? It is a simple fact that you need Aerodynamics for reasonably safe high speeds.

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200mph isn't that fast? LOL!!! It is fast for a land vehicle. Come to think of it, didn't the person who broke the sound barrier by putting a jet engine in a car do some serious body modifications to the car he put the engine in to keep it from aeroplaning? It is a simple fact that you need Aerodynamics for reasonably safe high speeds.

Considering the McLaren F1 does 240, and a Ferari F40 has a top speed of what, 220 (?), 200 mph for a high performance sports car isn't fast. How fast did they used to go at the LeMans track before they added the two curves to the back stretch? 260 mph?

Granted, it's fast for highway driving, but it's far from an unreasonable number for any car like this one.

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Ferrari F40 does 201 MPH ....

Audi R8 on the Le Mans track goes up to 260 MPH ....

Radish?

And the R8 is a brand new car. I was referring to when the entire back stretch of LeMans was straight. Cars would get up to 260-280 and this was back in the ...70s? If someone knows what I"m talking about, that would be gre:p :p

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Considering the McLaren F1 does 240, and a Ferari F40 has a top speed of what, 220 (?), 200 mph for a high performance sports car isn't fast. How fast did they used to go at the LeMans track before they added the two curves to the back stretch? 260 mph?

Granted, it's fast for highway driving, but it's far from an unreasonable number for any car like this one.

The McLaren and Ferrari are not considered sports cars. They are exotics.

200mph is too fast to be safe for a coupe. Here is another example of proper aerodynamics for high speed land driving.

This is the Ferrari F50. It's top speed is 203mph. Look at how the front is designed. It has air intakes to reduce the velocity of the wind hitting it. The way the F50's intakes are designed makes it where the wind enters the intake and blows down on the front floor of the car(the motor is in back, the front is like a trunk so it has a floorboard in the front). The velocity of the wind blowing down on in the front is powerful enough to keep the front of the car on the ground. If it wasn't for the intakes the front of that car would lift off of the ground before it would ever see 200mph. If you look at the CLK-GTR you will notice that it has all kinds of air intakes including one on top of the cab(on top of the side intakes and the front intakes). If you look at the McLaren you will notice that it has an intake on the cab, it has intakes on the sides and intakes on the front bumper. Those intakes are all there for a reason.

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Now look at the CL65 AMG. Does it have any intakes? No. Does it have a slim nose cone and hood design to make the car break through the wind like a bullet? No. Does it only sit only a few inches off of the ground? No. It simply would not be a safe car to take at such high speeds. Why do you think Mercedes has a RPM limiter on it? They put the limiter on the car to save peoples' lives. They know how to design a high speed car and they know that the coupe design is not safe for high speeds. Lets just say they know what they are doing.

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Ferrari F40 does 201 MPH ....

Audi R8 on the Le Mans track goes up to 260 MPH ....

Radish?

And the R8 is a brand new car. I was referring to when the entire back stretch of LeMans was straight. Cars would get up to 260-280 and this was back in the ...70s? If someone knows what I"m talking about, that would be gre:p :p

The fastest car around a track was by Bernd Rosemeyer in the late 40's, he went around the AVUS circuit in Germany @ 270 MPH, but died because of crosswinds on the tr:/k :/ - so it was not to be the fastest land speed record of a race car ....

But by the late 70's the top speed reached by a car made by Porsche was 245 MPH @ Le Mans, this is the current speed record holder in Le M:)s :) ....

Radish?

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That 245mph record was broken by Paul Tracy. He achieved 256.948 mph (413.52 km/h). I'm not sure what car he achieved it with but I think it was a McLaren F1.

http://www.mat.uc.pt/~rps/f1/top_speed.html

That was F1 racing. For LeMans it was:

"The fastest top speed recorded at Le Mans is 405 kmh. This was in 1988 by Roger Dorchy in a WM Peugeot P88. The record was set on the Hunaudieres straight on the section after the Nissan chicane. " (The chicanes were built in 1990.)
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Those big engined Mercedes are all quite comfortable taking it up to around 190MPH, but the engine is electronically limited through an agreement with the German government (thats why pretty much all BMW/Audi/Mercedes cars are limited in their ECU to 155MPH). The SL55 AMG even embarasses most supercars - its something nuts like a supercharged V8 or as in some of their other cars, a biturbo V12.

But its nothing compared to some of the motors that Brabus put together.. Mercedes cars that they work a little magic on. You end up, for example, with a Mercedes SL with nigh on 600BHP and 720lb/ft of torque - and they restrict that torque electronically again just to try and save the cars drive train and rear tyres! Now that car can comfortably take it up to around 190MPH.

The thing you have to remeber (looking at the post at the top of this page by Zombie) is that cars like the Ferarri F50 are racing engineered cars, and use carbon fibre all over the place, lightweight alloys, and all other kinds of gubbins to make them light. The Mercs on the other hands often weigh 2 tonnes or more.. they don't really need any help sticking to the ground at speed because they weigh so damn much!

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That 245mph record was broken by Paul Tracy. He achieved 256.948 mph (413.52 km/h). I'm not sure what car he achieved it with but I think it was a McLaren F1.

http://www.mat.uc.pt/~rps/f1/top_speed.html

That was F1 racing. For LeMans it was:

I could've swore that said Le Mans the 1st time I read it. Now it says Michigan Speedway. Maybe I was just seeing stuff. :wacko:

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I used to deliver Mercs and BMWs for private customers from Germany to the UK. Trust me when I say at 155mph and starts to ease back at about 170/175 the CL55 is still accellerating HARD. Even standard S500s and BMW 750s can cruise all day at 155mph without breaking sweat. i did Hamburg docks to Calais in under 5 hours in a CL55 and it felt like i'd just popped down the road. With the AMGs and Brabus cars the speed limiter is given it's own fuse, the engineer would pull it out and give it to you when you pick up the car at the factory.

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ok well you all seem to have neglected the first street legal super car in the world to reach 200 mph was the ford GT-40... since then only a fist full of cars like the F-50 have got this record ... cars that race on a track are verry different to thoughs which are on the road ... since the 200 mph mark was beaten almost 40 years ago it is disapointing to see that nothing has even got to 250 yet ....

now as far as i know the fastest "production" car sold today still remains the mclaren F1... and if we are talking about fastest cars in the world jet cars have broken the speed of sound and i think the fastest cylinder powered vehicle in the world is something like 400mph ... as far as cars not going over 200mph safely cause they are not aerodynamic " there is a 54 chev in australia with 3000hp its a drag car that hits 250+ mph by the end of the quater mile" when this car was developed im not even sure if the word aerodynamic existed....

The only cars that matter for braging rights are the ones you can bye from the manufacturer as far as im concernd.

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Ok, lets say that you can remove the RPM limiter and it can hit near 200mph, but would you really want to go that fast in that car? I don't think I would. Why? Because look at how it is shaped. It doesn't look to be a very aerodynamic car nor does it have a desirable wheelbase for that speed.

This is a car that is designed to go 200mph and still handle well.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/365-3.jpg

This is not designed to go 200mph.

http://www.topgear.com/content/features/st...mages/img01.gif

Maybe you should check out this link

CLs, SLs and S classes can all clip along nicely well over 250kph / 155MPH.

That limit is an agreement between most most of the German manufacturers.

Maybe you should stick to commenting on cars you know something about....

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Ferrari F40 does 201 MPH ....

Audi R8 on the Le Mans track goes up to 260 MPH ....

Radish?

And the R8 is a brand new car. I was referring to when the entire back stretch of LeMans was straight. Cars would get up to 260-280 and this was back in the ...70s? If someone knows what I"m talking about, that would be gre:p :p

917's hit about 250MPH down the Mulsanne.

Even with the extra chicanes, the modern cars aren't much slower...

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I believe the new Bugatti Veyron 16/4 (16 cylinder / 4 turbo's) has some of the most gobsmacking performance of a road car ever concieved.

1001BHP stock..

Top speed is expected to be around 250MPH, and it does something like 0-60 in 3 seconds, and 0-180MPH in 14 seconds. It truely will be the most awesome car.

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ok well you all seem to have neglected the first street legal super car in the world to reach 200 mph was the ford GT-40... since then only a fist full of cars like the F-50 have got this record ... cars that race on a track are verry different to thoughs which are on the road ... since the 200 mph mark was beaten almost 40 years ago it is disapointing to see that nothing has even got to 250 yet ....

now as far as i know the fastest "production" car sold today still remains the mclaren F1... and if we are talking about fastest cars in the world jet cars have broken the speed of sound and i think the fastest cylinder powered vehicle in the world is something like 400mph ... as far as cars not going over 200mph safely cause they are not aerodynamic " there is a 54 chev in australia with 3000hp its a drag car that hits 250+ mph by the end of the quater mile" when this car was developed im not even sure if the word aerodynamic existed....

The only cars that matter for braging rights are the ones you can bye from the manufacturer as far as im concernd.

The Koenigsegg should be able to take that record away from the F1...

I doubt too many road legal GT40's were capable of 200MPH+...

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I doubt too many road legal GT40's were capable of 200MPH+...

i can tell you now they where because the road legal and the one that where raced at lemans where exactly the same...see here for more details on the new ford GT and the old.

http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/index.asp?bhcp=1

this car was not only the first to reach the 200 mph club but i have seen videos of them doing it today decades later still and they didn't just do it once if thats what your thinking... go look it up im not saying bull.... and if your wondering why ford made such a car ... simple they where looking at buying the red epire but ferrarie wouldn't sell so henry ford being a bit peved at this set out to smash ferarie at the time... this car was decades ahead of its time and still is one of the fastest supercars in the world.

[edit] oh and the new GT is said to do 0-60 mph in 3.8 sec and do a quater mile faster than a dodge viper but still out handels a 360 mondena (specs could change closer to release date) and this is all with a single supercharged 5.4ltr engine[edit]

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Well, here's a Bentley GT being taken up to 329kph/204mph. And that's stock right out of the box... :blink:

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