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neufuse    2,671

I was just reading this article...

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/help-wanted-6-000-pizza-makers-needed-italy-6C9644965

and of course this stands out

"The Italian mindset is that being a pizza-maker is humiliating. It is a manual labor job,? Alessandro Rossi, owner of a pizzeria in Rome, told The Telegraph newspaper."

I know people say Americans are lazy, but seriously Italians whining about pizza making being "manual labor"?

then to say "Immigrants cook much of the pizza in the America?s pizza restaurants, and they're not usually Italians, Caporuscio said."

where do they get that information from? considering most pizza is made by college aged kids that are mostly American in the top 3 pizza making companies (pizza hut, dominos, papa johns)

Anyone here from the region that can explain this?! I just don't get what's so bad about the job or why the whining about it

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ShareShiz    112

Well. I get all my pizza at Little Ceasers, or Desorino. Guy at LC that always makes my pizza is Mexican, in fact no one that works there is any other race. But I don't care. He does his job, makes my pizza correctly and is always on time.

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Phouchg    2,050

All manual labor these days is looked down upon. Everyone wants to belong to the yuppie class or manageratti.

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moloko    185

My first job was working at a pizza place. It only a beginner job as it pays crap even for delivery.

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spacer    980

Restaurant job != Manual labor, in my book. These people need to quit complaining.

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M_Lyons10    452

Restaurant job != Manual labor, in my book. These people need to quit complaining.

I have to agree. It's not even close.

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Geoffrey B.    1,414

I bet the "Crappiest" pizza in Rome is still better than some of the best Pizza in the USA

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threetonesun    1,205

I was just reading this article...

http://www.nbcnews.c...italy-6C9644965

and of course this stands out

"The Italian mindset is that being a pizza-maker is humiliating. It is a manual labor job,? Alessandro Rossi, owner of a pizzeria in Rome, told The Telegraph newspaper."

I know people say Americans are lazy, but seriously Italians whining about pizza making being "manual labor"?

then to say "Immigrants cook much of the pizza in the America?s pizza restaurants, and they're not usually Italians, Caporuscio said."

where do they get that information from? considering most pizza is made by college aged kids that are mostly American in the top 3 pizza making companies (pizza hut, dominos, papa johns)

Anyone here from the region that can explain this?! I just don't get what's so bad about the job or why the whining about it

Pizza isn't as popular in Italy as it is in the US, but honestly even in the US it's a pretty lousy job most of the time, unless it's a local pizza joint.

I bet the "Crappiest" pizza in Rome is still better than some of the best Pizza in the USA

Depending on how you like your pizza, Italian pizza is either terrible or "ok" at best.

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spacer    980

I bet the "Crappiest" pizza in Rome is still better than some of the best Pizza in the USA

I have to wholeheartedly disagree. Pizza may have been "invented" in Naples (Italy), but there are places in the US (NYC, especially) that have perfected it. Granted, pizza franchises in the US (like Pizza Hut, Dominos, and Papa Johns) make incredibly terrible pizza. But I'm talking about small, mom-and-pop places. Those are the places that make truly amazing pizza.

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Tuishimi    129

Pfft. My jobs in order: Paper route. Food bagging at a pet store. Grocery store basket retriever. Pool cleaning/monitor. Landscaper (and I was the "sander" in the Winter, stood in the back of a truck shoveling sand onto the road as my boss slowly drove. LOL)... this was before I landed my main job that lead to my CS career...

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Coagulated    67

I bet the "Crappiest" pizza in Rome is still better than some of the best Pizza in the USA

Different types of pizza though, but I do agree to some extent. I've had amazing pizza's in both countries, but they're entirely different. If I had to pick it'd be the Italians, but it's all down to personal preference. Funnily enough the best pizza I had in Rome was in an Irish bar, but I cannot tell you the nationality of the chef. There was a few Irish bar maids and a few Italian if that's any consolation.

I think it can be considered skilled "manual labour" to an extent if you're a pizzaiolo, but unless you're making a real profession out of it, it's still "manual labour".

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theyarecomingforyou    9,089
Depending on how you like your pizza, Italian pizza is either terrible or "ok" at best.

Not true. I've been to Italy numerous times and the pizza there is great.

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Tuishimi    129

Not true. I've been to Italy numerous times and the pizza there is great.

Don't you put Mayo on your French Fries in UK, too? :p

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theyarecomingforyou    9,089

Don't you put Mayo on your French Fries in UK, too? :p

Mayo goes with everything! :laugh:

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REM2000    136

Don't you put Mayo on your French Fries in UK, too? :p

i think you mean on our chips :rofl:

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threetonesun    1,205

Not true. I've been to Italy numerous times and the pizza there is great.

Most US pizza is not even close to most Italian pizza. Anything here deep dish, thick crust, loaded with toppings or drenched with cheese you're not going to find in Italy. If you like thinner crust pizza with fewer toppings (or really good Margherita), then yes, Italian pizza is good.

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Hum    6,928

Making pizza is a lot of hard work -- with delicious results.

I have all kinds of respect for pizza makers. :p

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DrJohnSmitherson    131

HAHA! Making pizza is manual labor? Really? Not in my book.

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compl3x    6,252

Blessed are the pizza makers.

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Growled    3,880

All manual labor these days is looked down upon. Everyone wants to belong to the yuppie class or manageratti.

Exactly. They somehow feel it is less noble. I don't believe that myself.

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HawkMan    5,077

American Pizza is more pai than Pizza.

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Setnom    688

Is the modern pizza even an italian dish? I remember reading that the pizza (as we know it today) was developed by italian immigrants in the US.

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Osiris    802

How dare they question the noble and ancient art of pizza making. Back in lil Italy where I hale from it was the greatest honour to toss the dough.

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HawkMan    5,077

Is the modern pizza even an italian dish? I remember reading that the pizza (as we know it today) was developed by italian immigrants in the US.

depends on whether you're talking about Pizza or Pai/American Pizza. Either way the modern Pizza WITH cheese is not Italian, but rather first made for a brittish queen way back. before that they didn't have cheese.

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+FloatingFatMan    12,815

Don't you put Mayo on your French Fries in UK, too? :p

Nope.. We put tomato ketchup on our chips. :p

As for pizza; IIRC, it was originally peasant food for the poorest of the poor in Italy and bears very little resemblance to what most of the world calls pizza.

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