V-Tech Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 If Nokia had a dollar for every time some pundit, analyst or tech blogger said it should switch from Windows Phone to Android, the company?s recovery would be much further along than it is right now. That didn?t stop Bernstein Research analyst Pierre Ferragu from recommending yet again in a recent note to clients that Nokia bail on Microsoft?s mobile platform and embrace the dominant Android operating system. Nokia should ?take the pill before one cannot afford to do so anymore? and switch to Android before it?s too late, Ferregu wrote in a research note picked up by Barron?s. Continuing to rely on Windows Phone and Nokia?s ?Asha? feature phone platform while cash dwindles is an exercise in futility, according to the analyst. ?Nokia should consider it?s [sic] near term future,? Ferregu wrote. ?The company is facing two structural challenges: its exposure to the disappearing feature phone market and the lack of traction of Windows phones. Both could cost Nokia a lot of cash in the near term, in restructuring, marketing / distribution support, and operational losses, which means it could be too late to address the problem in a couple of years. From that perspective, a decision concerning a new platform strategy appears urgent. Better to take the pill before one cannot afford to do so anymore. We wouldn?t be surprised to see Nokia adopting Android as its new low-end platform by year end.? http://bgr.com/2013/06/28/nokia-android-analysis-bernstein/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiB3R Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 "Advised" would have been better. Title makes it sound final. WAQT 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcfan Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Right....Because android automatically means they will do well. Just ask HTC. Nokia sold more Windows Phones than HTC sold android phones last quarter. AsherGZ, WAQT, MightyJordan and 12 others 15 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwizard88 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Why do people listen to analysts again? MightyJordan, matt4444 and MikeChipshop 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 HA... HAHAHAHA.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... TPreston, McKay, menifred and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted June 28, 2013 Global Moderator Share Posted June 28, 2013 As long as they keep selling more with each new quarter then this argument will finally get dropped. 5.6million in Q1 is a nice step, now if they can do 7million or more for Q2 then you'll start to hear about this android switch less and less. I find it funny how LG sells 10million in a quarter and it's talked up like the best thing ever, I wonder if the same will be said for Nokia when they finally hit that double digit milestone with the Lumia range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 That's like trading in my Coupe for a Garbage Truck... This idiot fails to realize Microsoft is there to back them up. NewGuy123 and matt4444 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien_0 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Obviously Nokia is doing something right with their phone designs if Android analysts are constantly trying to get them to switch. Right now Nokia is the dominant phone maker for WP, for Android they would be going up against Samsung / HTC which they do not want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 It is the OS that is the problem and why Nokia has not been gaining much traction. (and no, I am not saying Nokia needs to go strictly android) MS needs to do something to appeal to more people. And like I said before, app support will go a long way to improving things. This idiot fails to realize Microsoft is there to back them up. Back them up how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scroogled Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 This analyst should recommend something to a company that's far closer to being "too late". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 It is the OS that is the problem and why Nokia has not been gaining much traction. (and no, I am not saying Nokia needs to go strictly android) MS needs to do something to appeal to more people. And like I said before, app support will go a long way to improving things. Back them up how. They can back them up financially. ANd just what about app support do people need? There's apps coming onto the market daily. The big first party apps are already there, and have been for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menifred Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Android on Lumias :x? No thank you. thomastmc and vcfan 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeChipshop Member Posted June 28, 2013 Member Share Posted June 28, 2013 What a surprise, another analyst talking out of their... anal-yst FiB3R, menifred, thomastmc and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahhell Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 BGR and analyst. That speaks quality article, right there. :s vcfan 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Angel Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 This idiot fails to realize Microsoft is there to back them up. Since when have Microsoft backed up anyone? The moment Nokia start going under Microsoft won't hesitate to cut them off like a diseased limb. Raa and fobban 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yowanvista Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Actually a Google Edition Pureview Nokia wouldn't be bad, they don't need to compete against giants like Samsung since they have the Camera stuff others don't have and that gives them an edge. Securing a portion of the marketshare shouldn't be difficult. People still have faith in Nokia, it's just the 'Windows' in the name that kinda spoils it since most people associate it to the disastrous Windows Mobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Since when have Microsoft backed up anyone? The moment Nokia start going under Microsoft won't hesitate to cut them off like a diseased limb. Does Apple not ring a bell? rfirth and TPreston 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 They can back them up financially. ANd just what about app support do people need? There's apps coming onto the market daily. The big first party apps are already there, and have been for some time. How financially would MS backup Nokia? Give them money? I don't see that happening. MS has invested in Nokia already, just like it did Apple, but that doesnt seem to be helping. but who knows, every company goes through this at one point. Sure they will bounce back. They just put all they eggs in to one basket while most other companies are doing WP and Android. Adding android sure wouldnt hurt them any. Vine, Mint, and Instagram are a couple apps I can think of that are popular and not available yet and I am sure there are more if I would look hard enough.. And I am talking official apps, not 3rd party apps. In most cases an app is released for the iPhone first and devs have been quicker on getting them on Android. Just seems that WP8 is not a big deal to lots. And there are many links saying this by doing a simple search. I am not saying things are not getting better, but apps was a big problem with Android at one time as well. But as soon as apps started coming out, android started see more attention from users. People like variety. You may have all the apps that you need, but not everyone uses the same. I use Mint and if I was considering switching, that would be a deal breaker for me. I dont think Nokia should go Android, at least not exclusively. Wouldn't hurt to expand but that is just my opinion. It is just slow, like any new platform, and my app support comment goes along with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Actually a Google Edition Pureview Nokia wouldn't be bad, they don't need to compete against giants like Samsung since they have the Camera stuff others don't have and that gives them an edge. Securing a portion of the marketshare shouldn't be difficult. People still have faith in Nokia, it's just the 'Windows' in the name that kinda spoils it since most people associate it to the disastrous Windows Mobile. They do make great hardware. Dont think anyone can deny that. thomastmc 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsherGZ Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 You mean take the pill and just end it now instead of riding it out? Because going Android would be suicide. The only Android phones that sells well is Samsung's Galaxy range. Even the much praised HTC One comes nowhere near, just selling about 5 million units. Nokia's Windows Phones are at least doing better than that, with 5.6 million Lumia handsets sold in the first quarter. That was before the release of its lower end 520, which sold out multiple times, and its new flagship 925 models. Things are only going to get better with the release of EOS. thomastmc and siah1214 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789A Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 This is the same analyst who said WP8 would not sell better than WP7.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Angel Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Does Apple not ring a bell? I don't know all of the details but I doubt that Microsoft did that without some anticipation of gain for themselves. Microsoft's history tells me that they're not an overly charitable corporation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsupersonic Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 I don't understand why all the hate. If Nokia produced an Android device based on the Lumia 920/928, it would be a win for consumers. Nokia brings a lot to the table, and by introducing Android devices, it could help them financially. The fanboy mentality needs to stop - if these companies fight for users/market share, they will only provide us with better products. yowanvista, Noir Angel and thomastmc 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 I don't understand why all the hate. If Nokia produced an Android device based on the Lumia 920/928, it would be a win for consumers. Nokia brings a lot to the table, and by introducing Android devices, it could help them financially. The fanboy mentality needs to stop - if these companies fight for users/market share, they will only provide us with better products. It would ruin their strategic partnership with Microsoft for one. Two, Nokia would OWE money to Microsoft for each device sold. Thirdly, it would put them up against Samsung, who owns the market, drawing out more money with little to no return. Last, there would be absolutely no branding to it whatsoever, reducing consumer interest. There's nothing to be gained with Android. The Android market is done and over with. Nokia would be fighting a war on two fronts with the resources to only fight one. Do you take the battlefield dominated by other players, or do you take the empty path, and make an new image for yourself? Chsoriano 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDboyz Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 ..... the world would be better place if there were no anal.ysts .... Sszecret 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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