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Hi next year I finish my computer science degree.... but then what? 

 

the computer science degree has taught me nothing extra... I do not feel as if i could go out and be a programmer... or such things all i can be is a web developer (and thats because Ive studied it and worked at home for 6 years)... 

 

maybe I am underestimating my self or the course? or do I have to go into a job and learn on the job? im happy to do that but all the jobs I see just seem really far out of my league :/ 

 

even the PHDs seem bloody crazy ? I know alot of university is private study and im one of the top in my class.... BUT still I feel I have barely touched the surface 

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Hi next year I finish my computer science degree.... but then what? 

 

the computer science degree has taught me nothing extra... I do not feel as if i could go out and be a programmer... or such things all i can be is a web developer (and thats because Ive studied it and worked at home for 6 years)... 

 

maybe I am underestimating my self or the course? or do I have to go into a job and learn on the job? im happy to do that but all the jobs I see just seem really far out of my league :/

 

even the PHDs seem bloody crazy ? I know alot of university is private study and im one of the top in my class.... BUT still I feel I have barely touched the surface 

I welcome you to unemployment... LOL

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Hi next year I finish my computer science degree.... but then what? 

 

the computer science degree has taught me nothing extra... I do not feel as if i could go out and be a programmer... or such things all i can be is a web developer (and thats because Ive studied it and worked at home for 6 years)... 

 

maybe I am underestimating my self or the course? or do I have to go into a job and learn on the job? im happy to do that but all the jobs I see just seem really far out of my league :/

 

even the PHDs seem bloody crazy ? I know alot of university is private study and im one of the top in my class.... BUT still I feel I have barely touched the surface 

 

No employer is willing to train. Full stop. You absolutely need some experience other than your degree to get a job. Programming jobs really are in high demand so teach yourself some C#, Perl, Java, etc. In your spare time. Find a club on campus.... something...

Hi next year I finish my computer science degree.... but then what? 

 

the computer science degree has taught me nothing extra... I do not feel as if i could go out and be a programmer... or such things all i can be is a web developer (and thats because Ive studied it and worked at home for 6 years)... 

 

maybe I am underestimating my self or the course? or do I have to go into a job and learn on the job? im happy to do that but all the jobs I see just seem really far out of my league :/

 

even the PHDs seem bloody crazy ? I know alot of university is private study and im one of the top in my class.... BUT still I feel I have barely touched the surface 

 

No employer is willing to train. Full stop. You absolutely need some experience other than your degree to get a job. Programming jobs really are in high demand so teach yourself some C#, Perl, Java, etc. In your spare time. Find a club on campus.... something...

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No employer is willing to train. Full stop. You absolutely need some experience other than your degree to get a job. Programming jobs really are in high demand so teach yourself some C#, Perl, Java, etc. In your spare time. Find a club on campus.... something...

 

 

well I know how to program java, php, android, SQL (if you count that) and im also proficient in linux and security.... BUT my main point was it does not feel like I am at the level required for these jobs listed? 

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No employer is willing to train. Full stop. You absolutely need some experience other than your degree to get a job. Programming jobs really are in high demand so teach yourself some C#, Perl, Java, etc. In your spare time. Find a club on campus.... something...

100% true... It is very hard to get a job even with a degree, without actual work experience.

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I welcome you to unemployment... LOL

 

ha! no its not that bad I already run my own small bussiness on the side, I AM a web developer ... like I said :P (a rspca sub branch being one of my clients)

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Excellent try to stick at it... so long as you have clients you have money.

 

 

well yea it is good! and i am even going to be taking on some other students from my university as the work load is increasing already me and my partner are getting to much business this summer... BUT once again :/ it is nice but its a side thing I would like to make this a permanent thing but I need options, redundancies etc 

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Honestly, the degrees mean less and less these days. Employers who require them and do not look at your experience or test your knowledge are absolutely rubbish. I have a great job in IT/software support and I went to school for something entirely unrelated to computers--but a lot of my jobs leading up to and during university were computer-related. Basically, your resum?/CV needs to show as much of your experience and what you are capable of as just having the degree. Work on a project that will utilise your current skillset (bonus points if you can challenge yourself to work outside your comfort zone and learn more), and be able to present it or talk about it in an interview if appropriate.

 

It's such an ever-changing world out there. Even if you felt like the classes had prepared you for a job now, chances are a lot of it isn't going to be as relevant 5 or 10 years down the road. So don't stress too much, just focus on what you like to do and actually DO it. I wish you the best of luck :)

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The problem I find now with jobs in IT etc... you are either under qualified or over qualified, or not enough real world experience. Also a lot of company's are not prepared to train anybody for jobs now. I think its mainly because IT is the last thing some company's think of nowadays.

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I think many companies wouldn't hire because of things like underqualified, overqualified, etcetera. It's not really something you might find important, but many companies do look for signs of higher education.

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I think many companies wouldn't hire because of things like underqualified, overqualified, etcetera. It's not really something you might find important, but many companies do look for signs of higher education.

True in some cases but still not as good as having real world experience. 

 

It proves it when this happened to a friend of mine. He was asked to interview some people for a job. So he asked them to build a computer, some of those with degrees in programming etc... couldn't do it properly. Even though the vacancy said you need to be able to build, maintain, and diagnose computer faults.

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Somebody once said: "A bachelors will make you believe you know everything there is to know, a masters will make you doubt it, and a PhD will make you realise that you've barely touched the surface of what's possible". Sounds like you're currently at the first stage there. 

 

Computer science degrees at decent universities are very different things. If you go to a crap university - they'll churn out graduates who are fairly decent coders, but absolutely useless at problem solving. At a decent uni, you're taught the fundamentals - how it works, why it works, and the logic behind it all - stuff that you can apply to any programming job. Remember, programming is more about problem solving than writing code.

 

You need to think about what you want to do - if you want to go into industry - get yourself on a grad scheme. If you want to further your education - specialise. I graduated in Comp Sci (from a decent UK uni) in '11, did a masters in Bioinformatics last year, worked as a research assistant for a while, and then enrolled on an MPhil/PhD specialising in protein folding algorithms. Much more interesting than the basic comp sci I started off with.

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youre gonna have to start at the bottom with **** pay, then work your way up with experience. going to a company and saying I have a degree means absolutely nothing. its only a prerequisite when applying for certain jobs. most of the people I did engineering with haven't had too much success elevating themselves over average pay.

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Somebody once said: "A bachelors will make you believe you know everything there is to know, a masters will make you doubt it, and a PhD will make you realise that you've barely touched the surface of what's possible". Sounds like you're currently at the first stage there. 

 

Computer science degrees at decent universities are very different things. If you go to a crap university - they'll churn out graduates who are fairly decent coders, but absolutely useless at problem solving. At a decent uni, you're taught the fundamentals - how it works, why it works, and the logic behind it all - stuff that you can apply to any programming job. Remember, programming is more about problem solving than writing code.

 

You need to think about what you want to do - if you want to go into industry - get yourself on a grad scheme. If you want to further your education - specialise. I graduated in Comp Sci (from a decent UK uni) in '11, did a masters in Bioinformatics last year, worked as a research assistant for a while, and then enrolled on an MPhil/PhD specialising in protein folding algorithms. Much more interesting than the basic comp sci I started off with.

 

 

well I am planning on doing a PHD ... and I am already at PHD level... in the way of thinking... so much i need to learn... so much I have not even touched... i study in my spare time just to stay on top of things... I have a passion for learning ... its my summer and all I do is study... i accepted a job 3 weeks ago to program API for an iOS app... never done it before in my life! accepted it anyway ;D got paid and the company wants to give me more work....and im learning more about android... but now i want to learn shell script and perl... and some kind of graphical thing (ive never touched graphics before) just AHHHH i feel like im drowning I dont feel like i have time to do this! im nearly 22! i dont have time to learn everything i want to learn ;( I still want to do a degree in biology as I went from biology to computer science 

(college to uni) ....I hate life ;( lol

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Then you join the unemployed, Really!

 

Kids go for a CS degree when they are no good at any one thing. You would have been so far better off out in the real world getting real world experience.

 

Believe me for ever person that gets a job because they have a CS degree, 100 don't.

 

My advice; get in to heating and air conditioning...

 

Hi next year I finish my computer science degree.... but then what? 

 

the computer science degree has taught me nothing extra... I do not feel as if i could go out and be a programmer... or such things all i can be is a web developer (and thats because Ive studied it and worked at home for 6 years)... 

 

maybe I am underestimating my self or the course? or do I have to go into a job and learn on the job? im happy to do that but all the jobs I see just seem really far out of my league :/

 

even the PHDs seem bloody crazy ? I know alot of university is private study and im one of the top in my class.... BUT still I feel I have barely touched the surface 

 

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and then enrolled on an MPhil/PhD specialising in protein folding algorithms.

 

Seeing you know quite a bit about it, would you say that folding@home make any difference?

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