DJP Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 I'm using windowsblinds 3.1 now for a few days. I really think there should be a separate version of wb for xp. Then wb is able to use some stuff from the msstyles engine and the wb engine. What so great about that? 1: You have got all the possibilities of msstyles skins. 2: You have even more because you installed windowsblinds. So i'm saying, why not create a sort of add on for the msstyles. Or do i have to wait for wb 4.0 Greetz. Tell me what you think about this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenreaper Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 Actually, that's exactly what WB does. There is a separate version for XP (the installation program decides which one is used). When you run it, WB does as much as it can with the msstyles engine (giving it the bitmaps), and does the rest with it's own. Bits that msstyles does but WB doesn't are being added incrementally right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogboy Administrators Posted January 22, 2002 Administrators Share Posted January 22, 2002 Precisely. What most users don't realize is that a good part of the effort goes into documenting something, supporting it in the skin language and then getting users to support it. WindowBlinds supports palette window title bars for instance. Especially in UIS1 skins. But no one has made one yet. Msstyles has the advantage in that users start out wtih a completely done msstyles (Luna) and can modify as much or as little of it as they want. We don't have the luxury of violating Microsoft's copyright and distributing our software with the actual Windows XP files so we have to create them little by little. And there's only so many of us to do that. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Michael Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 What I don't understand Frogboy is why you take every chance you get to insult StylesXP????? We don't have the luxury of violating Microsoft's copyright and distributing our software with the actual Windows XP files so we have to create them little by little. And there's only so many of us to do that. Just because there is an alternative out there, whether it is just a hack or a program, you should be greatful for the competition. That means that those who are loyal to windowblinds will be compelled to create better skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenreaper Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 Nah, it means we have to choose between: a) losing some potential skin users, or b) having to learn how to use a new skin format and convert skins And why would a company want a competition? If Stardock had no competition they would probably sell more stuff. Competition is good for the users, not for the companies who are competing. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Michael Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 Thta's just it though...it IS good for the companies. Competition is good because the companies will create better programs in hopes of getting more customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJP Posted January 22, 2002 Author Share Posted January 22, 2002 Originally posted by greenreaper Actually, that's exactly what WB does. There is a separate version for XP (the installation program decides which one is used). When you run it, WB does as much as it can with the msstyles engine (giving it the bitmaps), and does the rest with it's own. Bits that msstyles does but WB doesn't are being added incrementally right now. Alright. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 Originally posted by TrainerNIU Thta's just it though...it IS good for the companies. Competition is good because the companies will create better programs in hopes of getting more customers. But if they are the only company creating that product, it doesn't matter about quality. Take for instance Microsoft. I realize there are other OSs out there for the x86 architecture, but they are pretty much no competition. You pretty much have to use windows. MS could make a terrible product...oh wait they already have...see Windows ME, and people will still use it. And everyone knows MS doesn't want competition. Intel and AMD....having both around is great for the consumer. It keeps prices down and both companies bring out better products. But if only one was around, pricing would much higher, and neither company would go to the lengths they do now for better products. Why would they? Consumers would have no choice. Its either one or none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM5K Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 ALl BS aside, the built in skinning of Windows XP has made more people aware of what skinning is, and if Stardock makes the superior product, they can only benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenreaper Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 That's certainly true. Apparently WB sales skyrocketed after XP was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJP Posted January 22, 2002 Author Share Posted January 22, 2002 Originally posted by superfula MS could make a terrible product...oh wait they already have...see Windows ME, and people will still use it. And everyone knows MS doesn't want competition. . Actually windows me was the only system which could run ok on my old amd k6-2 3d machine. :) So on my old computer is was a great os. Until i went to whistler in october 2000. Yes people, i'm already using xp over a year now. :) greetz BTW I am glad i got my self a duron 1000. MUCH FASTER!!! And more stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJP Posted January 22, 2002 Author Share Posted January 22, 2002 Originally posted by PM5K ALl BS aside, the built in skinning of Windows XP has made more people aware of what skinning is, and if Stardock makes the superior product, they can only benefit. Yep, i started skinning because windows xp supported it. And it was easy to make a decent skin. :) BTW Skinstudio is much much better then stylebuider. But that's a different story. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM5K Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 Well I'm still waiting for Brad to respond to my e-mail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogboy Administrators Posted January 23, 2002 Administrators Share Posted January 23, 2002 Working on that PM5. ;) This week is insane. Gotta a major GalCiv milestone this week and ObjectBar 0.95 to get out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM5K Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 No big deal, I'm dying over here anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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