V-Tech Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Nintendo has just revealed its consolidated results for the April-June quarter, and they show a significant 3.8 percent decline in sales compared to the same quarter last year -- despite (or perhaps because of) the release of the semi-next-gen Wii U. This console sold just 160,000 units during the quarter, or less than half the number of units shifted between January and March. The company's original sales projections for the device, and its hope of selling nine million units by March 2014, are now a distant dream -- we're looking at a lifetime total of just 3.61 million sales. On a more positive note, however, it still managed to sell 1.4 million 3DS handhelds. Plus, the year-over-year fall in revenue was also much smaller than the one Nintendo suffered in Q2 2012, and its operating loss was much smaller too -- just under five billion yen in the red. Factoring in all the company's various sources of income, it managed to eke out a net profit of 8.6 billion yen, or $88 million, so there's some life in this playful old outfit yet. http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/31/nintendo-reports-quarterly-revenue-down/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red. Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 WiiU breakdown: Japan - 90kThe Americas - 60kOther - 10k Think these are shipped numbers. Either way, those are some terrible numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coagulated Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 We all knew this was going to happen, didn't we? So why didn't Nintendo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reactionary007 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 It's all about the games. I plan on buying one - once the big wave of games for the winter/spring hit. I'm not going to pay $420 now just to play Super Mario Bros. Wii U for 4 or 5 months. Lord Method Man, OrsenPike and fusi0n 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrsenPike Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I am waiting for better games such as the next SSB and Mario games. They have had long enough now to develop one. The fact there is not much coming out for the whole of 2013 is a massive fail on Nintendo's part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhearted Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 With pikmin and the rest of the games this year, and mk8, smash bros and whatnot early next, things will pick up and be just fine. Basically, it'll be like the 3ds again. Also, inb4 the inevitable idiot who says nintendo is doomed must go third party. ahhell 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerzdawg Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 We all knew this was going to happen, didn't we? So why didn't Nintendo? "We" all said the same thing about the Wii as well. Good thing Nintendo didn't listen then either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusi0n Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 It's all about the games. I plan on buying one - once the big wave of games for the winter/spring hit. I'm not going to pay $420 now just to play Super Mario Bros. Wii U for 4 or 5 months. This is exactly my thought process on the Wii-U.. SMB U seems amazing.. but I am not going to pay that much for one day game.. Release Mario Kart and I won't think twice about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason S. Global Moderator Posted July 31, 2013 Global Moderator Share Posted July 31, 2013 While the numbers arent good, and the variety of games available is worse, we have to remember that the system has been out for <1yr. Even in our ADHD world, we cant dismiss the Wii U yet. That being said, Nintendo really need to release some big games during the holiday season this year. I was really disappointed to hear that MK was going to be pushed back until spring 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Teej Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 160k, over 3 months, worldwide, has got to be some of the worst numbers Nintendo has ever done in the last 10 years for any one flagship console, or maybe even ever. For example, if they ended up pulling off these figures for the next 5 years, even taking into account that their sales would double over the holiday quarter, they'd end up only selling 4,000,000 units. Of course, that's an extreme case scenario and highly unlikely, but nevertheless without software going out the door it's not going to sell much more. Even the Gamecube, which is Nintendo's worst selling flagship console of all time, ended up selling 920,000 units a quarter (doubled over the holidays) on average over 5 years. Even if the maths is slightly off, (obviously some quarters are better then others, sometimes the holiday season is better or worse year over year), being over 700,000 units LESS then the Gamecube in an average quarter is extremely worrying. I'm not calling for Nintendo to go third party but they severely ######ed up with the Wii U and I genuinely don't see how this console is going to last another 4 years, or more, on this current trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I remember when the 3DS had really slow sales (before the initial price drop), people were talking ###### about it etc saying it was relying on a gimmick etc, and look at it now, pretty much the only portable console :/ ahhell and Lord Method Man 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason S. Global Moderator Posted July 31, 2013 Global Moderator Share Posted July 31, 2013 I'm not calling for Nintendo to go third party but they severely ****ed up with the Wii U and I genuinely don't see how this console is going to last another 4 years, or more, on this current trend. Youre only thinking in the near-term. It's only been out in the US for 9 months (not sure about other parts of the world). Remember how bad the 3DS sales were in its first year and a half? People brought out their torches ready to burn the thing at the stake. We just need to wait patiently for the 'big' games to come out. Unfortunately, however, this should have happened already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaP Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 X looks like a great game but it will definately not be enough to make me buy a wii u. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahhell Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Numbers should pick up with some of the new titles coming out. W101 looks amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Teej Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Youre only thinking in the near-term. It's only been out in the US for 9 months (not sure about other parts of the world). Remember how bad the 3DS sales were in its first year and a half? People brought out their torches ready to burn the thing at the stake. We just need to wait patiently for the 'big' games to come out. Unfortunately, however, this should have happened already... But of course, I realise I am thinking short term and obviously sales should rise with more software, and I do see a recurring pattern with nintendo's systems whereby it starts off slow and then picks up speed. However, it can't be denied that there is a 30 million systems sold difference between the Wii U and the 3DS despite there being only a 20 month difference in LTD (roughly). Obviously I'd much prefer the Wii U to succeed rather then fail, but these are definitely dark times ahead. You also have to take into consideration that Nintendo were in a better financial position when the 3DS launched, and could afford for the 3DS to become a loss leader and drop the price to shift units, which ultimately saved the system as it let developers to sell their software to more people; This time around, Nintendo is no longer in that same position and can't afford to do the same once again with the Wii U, which means it needs to drive sales purely through software - which is nowhere to be found until after the PS4 and X1 launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Nintendo have no one to blame but themselves for this poor situation. If they didn't ignore game developers queries, maybe game developers would actually write software for their machine instead of sending dev units back? Also, cutting Wii services (used by many) in favour of the Wii U (owned by few) is just alienating the current Wii owners. If you want to sell your existing user base new hardware, annoying them should NOT be in your TODO list! Also, it's monumentally stupid to release to market with virtually no AAA titles ready to go. That was so dumb, even a Picard facepalm isn't sufficient to portray its dumbness.. If the Wii U fails, they deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhearted Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Nintendo have no one to blame but themselves for this poor situation. If they didn't ignore game developers queries, maybe game developers would actually write software for their machine instead of sending dev units back? Also, cutting Wii services (used by many) in favour of the Wii U (owned by few) is just alienating the current Wii owners. If you want to sell your existing user base new hardware, annoying them should NOT be in your TODO list! Also, it's monumentally stupid to release to market with virtually no AAA titles ready to go. That was so dumb, even a Picard facepalm isn't sufficient to portray its dumbness.. If the Wii U fails, they deserve it. Nah, many of those devs wouldn't be pleased no matter what nintendo did. Hell, their main complaint with the wii was probably the lack of power. Later on Nintendo brings out a platform capable of handling anything they'd want to make and what did they do? They came up with a new excuse. That cycle would just continue on, most likely. As for cutting we services, i assume you're referring to the shut down of a few of the wii connect 24 things last month. That's really not a big issue at all. I'm fairly confident very few people actually used their wii to read the news or check the weather. And even fewer people(if any at all) actually used the things like the everyone votes or check mii out channels. The things that need to still work, such as the video streaming apps(which people DO use, unlike that other stuff) and the shop still do. And that's all that really matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 As for cutting we services, i assume you're referring to the shut down of a few of the wii connect 24 things last month. That's really not a big issue at all. I'm fairly confident very few people actually used their wii to read the news or check the weather. And even fewer people(if any at all) actually used the things like the everyone votes or check mii out channels. The things that need to still work, such as the video streaming apps(which people DO use, unlike that other stuff) and the shop still do. And that's all that really matters. Try explaining that to my kids when the Mii stuff you mention stopped working. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted July 31, 2013 MVC Share Posted July 31, 2013 The problem is they had a great chance to give this thing some Next Gen Hardware and be head of the crowd by about a year. Instead they put in Next Gen hardware compared to the Wii, not compared to everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey B. Veteran Posted July 31, 2013 Veteran Share Posted July 31, 2013 i only know of one person that purchased a Wii U, he got it on launch day and he traded it in a few weeks later. and i do not know of anyone else that plans to purchase one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coagulated Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 "We" all said the same thing about the Wii as well. Good thing Nintendo didn't listen then either. "I" didn't, in fact I thought the Wii was a great concept that should have done better, it was just late to the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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