Lillflinten Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 There?s a lot of moaning about the Pc sales declining both from the market and the public. What?s wrong with you? The PC as we know it is dead for the majority except for hardcore gamers and people/companys with special needs ,like heavy duty video conversion and some others. I myself have been using computers since the mid 80s, just for pleasure not in work. Yes, I?m that old. Starting with MSX ,C64,Amiga Atari and the first Imac and all flavours of MS computers. When the first smartphones and tablets came out, i just thinked about them as overpriced toys. A while ago i felt for the pressure to test the new Xperia tablet Z. I?m also a gadget freak. :-) Thinking that this thing gonna collect some dust after a couple of days like alot of my purchases mostly do. I was not stunned but not far from. This tablet does everything i?m needing and thats counts for most of the worlds population. There?s still need for powerfull PCs but but that?s a minority. My once expensive Msi gaming laptop is now a humble mediahub and when it dies it?s not gonna be replaced. Sorry about my bad english. Greetings to all neowinianns from Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisj1968 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 the decline is due to MS campaign to change how we compute. Problem is; not everyone is falling for it. a tablet is good for somethings but alot still want the desktop environment and a place to do their work. I CAN see a realisitic scene where a person has a Dektop PC or laptop at home but carries a tablet and/or smartphone while mobile. Not to get into the semantics of win8 however, one groups vision isn't realized or not always embraced by everyone. I think PC OEM's will stake their claim again in the market with new offerings.. but they will survive.. that's their livelihood. at any rate.. welcome! Jose_49 and +Warwagon 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phouchg Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Harcore gamerss and peoplecompanies with special needs constitute larger part of worlds population than you think it does. Is that they have reached a certain point where software must try really hard to slow down hardware. Multicore CPUs practically cannot be overloaded anymore without doing something really stupid and ssds help immensely on the storage front. Therefor only the most demanding people will keep buying upgrades or new PCs just to have the latest and greatest just like they do with various gadgets that deprecate at the pace PCs used to but dont anymore. I shall agree however that that Xperia tablet Z is a mighty fine device. Now, not having a great command of English may not be something to be sorry about. Not even trying - that's another question altogether. BillyJack 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESC@PE Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 My main desktop & Surface Pro is all I need now-a-days! :D heslo 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted August 7, 2013 Member Share Posted August 7, 2013 the decline is due to MS campaign to change how we compute. Problem is; not everyone is falling for it. I think the campaign started with Apple. Microsoft is still playing catch up. Anyway, the decline will continue with the home consumers leading the way and it will gradually spread to business use. These things take time. I sure enjoy leaving my desktop behind at the end of the day to play with my phone and tablet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillflinten Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 It?s nice to already see so many opinions and all have their points. Myself as being a "true" PC user for almost 30 years have halted my progress. Installing a OS and some uppgrades could take hours sometimes. That?s really is prehistoric behaviour. But some people like the installing of a OS. For me it?s like watching paint dry. I?m being older so i should accept things to take time. But no. MS,Apple iOS or any kind of Linux. Sorry Mint i really like you. You are obsolete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbeen Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 The desktop PC is $150 cheaper, but requires 5x more physical space, and utilizes 160W compared to 15W. Throw in a graphics card and it jumps to 300W easy. Theres a reason the desktop is going extinct. Mainstream users don't need to waste that much power to browse facebook, watch a video or post to a forum. Im not saying its good, but considering they aren't designed to be upgraded anymore (cheaper to straight out replace all considered) and nobody games on anything but consoles, desktop PCs have no place anymore when you could have a damn safe in the same physical space with an iPad or ultrabook. Ive switched from desktop systems to laptops over the past few years and will never look back. HDMI out + 40+ inch screens? techies wet dream turned reality... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Ehm, desktop PCs have the most advanced components of any computing device. Not quite sure how that's a dinosaur. That's not going to change any time soon, either. Nogib and MarkusDarkus 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phouchg Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 The desktop PC is $150 cheaper, but requires 5x more physical space, and utilizes 160W compared to 15W. Throw in a graphics card and it jumps to 300W easy. Theres a reason the desktop is going extinct. Mainstream users don't need to waste that much power to browse facebook, watch a video or post to a forum. Im not saying its good, but considering they aren't designed to be upgraded anymore (cheaper to straight out replace all considered) and nobody games on anything but consoles, desktop PCs have no place anymore when you could have a damn safe in the same physical space with an iPad or ultrabook. Ive switched from desktop systems to laptops over the past few years and will never look back. HDMI out + 40+ inch screens? techies wet dream turned reality... Do you, by chance, also fancy Steely Dan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Harcore gamerss and peoplecompanies with special needs constitute larger part of worlds population than you think it does. Is that they have reached a certain point where software must try really hard to slow down hardware. Multicore CPUs practically cannot be overloaded anymore without doing something really stupid and ssds help immensely on the storage front. Therefor only the most demanding people will keep buying upgrades or new PCs just to have the latest and greatest just like they do with various gadgets that deprecate at the pace PCs used to but dont anymore. I shall agree however that that Xperia tablet Z is a mighty fine device. Now, not having a great command of English may not be something to be sorry about. Not even trying - that's another question altogether. Any time a software company (any software company) tries to push the envelope outside of niche usage, users have pushed back, at times rather violently - the lack of adoption of Windows 8 on new hardware is merely another symptom. (The ability of Windows 8 to run on existing hardware may be, in fact, the only salvation for the entire operating system, believe it or not. Microsoft has not been the only victim - look at the pace of changes completely outside of Windows; OS X, for example, or even PC gaming.) Smartphones and tablets don't have the albatross (if not outright boat-anchor) of backward/legacy compatibility hanging around their necks - and, they are far cheaper than PCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Method Man Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I can use a tablet for about 5 minutes before I run screaming back to a laptop or desktop due to a need of actual functionality. Xerino, +Warwagon, astropheed and 8 others 11 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillflinten Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 There?s pros and cons in every system. It ?s not exactly a perfect system and it never will as long there being people with different taste. My point is that the way of using a computer in any form have changed. Even me who have been very conservative have changed my opinion. The few games i play and it?s scarced is on a Xbox360. The rest of my "computer" work works prefectly on a tablet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I wouldn't consider myself a hardcore gamer. However I couldn't see myself using my playbook for programming purposes. I like big screens, I like a keyboard and mouse. There are things my PC can do, and things I do on my PC I couldn't do on a tablet or phone. johnporter29 and xirtam 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Angel Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 When a tablet can do exactly what my PC can do (And that's run AAA+ games at 1080p on a 21.5 inch screen, with a mouse and keyboard, and with no lag) then it might become of use to me. Tablets are not going to replace PCs Tuishimi, johnporter29, Nogib and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Mist Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I've had a gaming pc since the early 90's & that will never change, it's my no 1 gaming choice, ps3 if fine for a half hour or so, but it cant compare to my pc..... Consoles come & go, but my pc has always been there. I have 5 in my home & I cant see them being replaced by any tablet or mobile phone at any time , my kids love having there own pc in there room and the best bit is they're so easy to upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillflinten Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 Nice to see so many different opinions. Everyone have their choice. Mine together with many others is not to go back to the old school. I salute you who stick with yours and i hope you accept my decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESC@PE Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Nice to see so many different opinions. Everyone have their choice. Mine together with many others is not to go back to the old school. I salute you who stick with yours and i hope you accept my decision. So what will you do going forward then? neo1911 and Lillflinten 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillflinten Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 Stick to what youre taste is and keep it there. Accept others and we accept yours. It?s as simple as that. Then we can skip this mine is better than yours battle. Doesn?t matter if it?s hardware or software. Have a nice time everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake89 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 PC is very far from being the last dinosaur. Read this: http://jonpeddie.com/press-releases/details/global-pc-gaming-hardware-sales-shrug-off-pc-market-decline/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillflinten Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 Messed up. Answer to este. I really like my Sony Tablet and gonna stick to it for everything except gaming. Just wait for the xbox360 to die then i make my decision there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre S. Veteran Posted August 7, 2013 Veteran Share Posted August 7, 2013 Anyone using PCs for serious work or gaming isn't even contemplating switching to a touch or mobile device. Why would you switch from a large screen to a small screen; from a set of powerful, precise and responsive input devices (mouse + keyboard) to an approximate, slow and laggy one (touch screens); from powerful hardware with infinite energy to hardware crippled by poor battery life and energy, etc... Smartphones and tablets are very simple and highly crippled PCs that are ideal for casual information consumption and mobility. It turns out that there's a massive demand for such devices, but that doesn't obsolete PCs for what they excel at. xirtam, psmoked, Victor Rambo and 5 others 8 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillflinten Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 Some people doesn?t understand my point. Sure a lot of PCs still can run around a tablet in circles. My MSI GT683 can do it but it?s a overkill computer both in power and price. I first bought it as a gaming device but my friend who is a consolefreak hate it?s not used as intended. So i have degraded it as a dumb mediadevice and there it?s gonna stick til it dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillflinten Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 Yes. You have right in what you say m.v.c But you just talk for yourself. I don?t need my 46 inch for paying my bills or my facebook account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillflinten Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 Before i close for the night. Just to clear some things out. You who needs a powerfull computer whatever just go for it. But we who is majority today dosen?t need overpower. You can argue how much you will but claming that a majority need a big powerfull pc for surfing an d paying bills ,that?s what most people wan?t then you have big hole in your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetonesun Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 You still can't develop on mobile devices, which makes them devices, not PCs, as you still need a PC to even create the software that will run on the device. For those of us who grew up playing with PCs that booted into a command line, the idea that you can't create something that runs on the device you're using seems a bit... silly. I think it's an acceptable compromise for a phone, but it's a major detriment to anyone taking tablets seriously in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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