What do you think about CSETI and its movie "Sirius" ?


Recommended Posts

Decebalvs Rex

Recently I've watched the movie named Sirius and all of its video tapes wich recorded several spaceships floating above the earth. What do you think about this organisation , its members and its ideological ways ?

CSETI seems to bring some proof over what they say , do you beleive them ?

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Hum

I watched the Sirius movie.

 

Just another step toward the eventual recognition of intelligent alien life. ;)

Link to post
Share on other sites
lordofangels

Watched the Sirius movie, although quite good, it just appeared to be a poor mans Ancient Aliens.

Link to post
Share on other sites
mrchetsteadman

I think it's funny that people still think intelligent life on other planets is something that only nut cases would believe in. The amount of credible witnesses is staggering. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Dotdot

Shame about "Ata". Tho I had seen an article before detailing how the DNA came back as human, and that they`d been able to say it had lived and grown all the way up to 6-8yrs old.

Still extremely puzzling and Im eager to find out exactly what genetic condition it had to cause such extreme dwarfism, if it could even be called that. Goes a good step beyond primordial dwarfism thats for sure!

Link to post
Share on other sites
psionicinversion

TBH only a fricking moron would believe we are the only intelligent life in the entire universe, mainly because if we are whats the point about space travel and exploring other planets if theres nothing worth finding

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
HawkMan

I think it's funny that people still think intelligent life on other planets is something that only nut cases would believe in. The amount of credible witnesses is staggering. 

 

Believeing in intelligent life on other planets and believeing they've been visiting here is two very different things

 

one of them is a mathematical guarantee.

the other, no there is no credible proof or witnesses we have had visitiors. secondly the resources it takes to travel through space means that any aliens that spends all that resources to get here. they would be here for one reason alone, to suck our planet dry of resources and slave labor. and they would be so advanced we couldn't stop them, and we wouldn't see them if they where visiting unless they made themselves seen when they start attacking anyway. 

 

The whole aliens are nice and wants to come visit the nice planet earth to see the development of the mot advanced species in the universe is a nice romantic dream, but it has no realistic foundation. 

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
FloatingFatMan

 the resources it takes to travel through space means that any aliens that spends all that resources to get here. they would be here for one reason alone, to suck our planet dry of resources and slave labor. and they would be so advanced we couldn't stop them, and we wouldn't see them if they where visiting unless they made themselves seen when they start attacking anyway. 

 

The whole aliens are nice and wants to come visit the nice planet earth to see the development of the mot advanced species in the universe is a nice romantic dream, but it has no realistic foundation. 

 

That's just pure paranoia talking. There's absolutely no reason to presume that any visiting aliens would have to be hostile, or that they'd need to steal our resources.

 

In fact, if they have the capability for interstellar travel, not only would they probably have near infinite resources anyway, but they'd have access to an infinite number of worlds far more resource rich than our own, and probably closer too.  Why go to the effort of attacking some poor savages in a tiny backwater world?

 

If anything, visiting aliens are far more likely to be anthropologists or similar. Studying a world at an earlier stage of evolution etc.

  • Like 3
Link to post
Share on other sites
Dotdot

That's just pure paranoia talking. There's absolutely no reason to presume that any visiting aliens would have to be hostile, or that they'd need to steal our resources.

 

In fact, if they have the capability for interstellar travel, not only would they probably have near infinite resources anyway, but they'd have access to an infinite number of worlds far more resource rich than our own, and probably closer too.  Why go to the effort of attacking some poor savages in a tiny backwater world?

 

If anything, visiting aliens are far more likely to be anthropologists or similar. Studying a world at an earlier stage of evolution etc.

I tend to agree. I dont think or know of any sub-mission to harvest the moons resources when we first ventured out? Much like humanity, I think they too would also do a lot of things just to prove to themselves they can.

Endeavour, rather than Conquer.

Also these resources you speak of whilst great and almost un-thinkable nnd obtainable to us, may not be so for them. Your basing there technology on your own human limitations of understanding.

(Tho if they have found a way to travel these distances on little energy/resources or even moderate amounts, then serious WOW!!!!)

Link to post
Share on other sites
HawkMan

That's just pure paranoia talking. There's absolutely no reason to presume that any visiting aliens would have to be hostile, or that they'd need to steal our resources.

 

In fact, if they have the capability for interstellar travel, not only would they probably have near infinite resources anyway, but they'd have access to an infinite number of worlds far more resource rich than our own, and probably closer too.  Why go to the effort of attacking some poor savages in a tiny backwater world?

 

If anything, visiting aliens are far more likely to be anthropologists or similar. Studying a world at an earlier stage of evolution etc.

 

 

That's a very Star Trek Federation like thinking. 

 

just looking at our own history, we have NEVER traveled such distances to explore new land to study the people.

 

While there could be "exploratory" aliens with infinite resources, the likelihood is stacked 1000000 to one against that. and even then you make the grave mistake of assuming aliens have any similar thought basis as us, their ethics and morales are likely to be completely different even if they're "good" aliens. 

 

As for why go here. slave labor, water, any number of things that could be hard to find on other places. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
FloatingFatMan

That's a very Star Trek Federation like thinking. 

 

just looking at our own history, we have NEVER traveled such distances to explore new land to study the people.

 

While there could be "exploratory" aliens with infinite resources, the likelihood is stacked 1000000 to one against that. and even then you make the grave mistake of assuming aliens have any similar thought basis as us, their ethics and morales are likely to be completely different even if they're "good" aliens. 

 

As for why go here. slave labor, water, any number of things that could be hard to find on other places. 

 

But your assumption is just as much based on your own thought processes as mine are, and there's no reason to presume your conclusion is any more or less valid than mine.

 

At the end of the day, there's just no way we could deduce why aliens would want to visit us; but presuming bad intentions is hardly the road towards possible peaceful contact.

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
+Mirumir

just looking at our own history, we have NEVER traveled such distances to explore new land to study the people.

 

 

I strongly disagree with this statement.

 

Here's a list of the world's greatest explorers. Not all of them carried on their expeditions for purely imperialistic, economical, or political reasons. Some of them were genuinely interested in geography, cartography, biology, archaeology, and study of indigenous peoples' cultures. 

 

For example, 

 

Helge Marcus Ingstad (30 December 1899 ? 29 March 2001) was a Norwegian explorer. After mapping some Norse settlements, Ingstad and his wife Anne Stine, an archaeologist, in 1960 found remnants of a Viking settlement in L'Anse aux Meadows in the Province of Newfoundland in Canada. With that they were the first to prove conclusively that the Greenlandic Norsemen had found a way across the Atlantic Ocean to North America, roughly 500 years before Christopher Columbus and John Cabot.
 
or
 
Nicholas Miklouho-Maclay  (1846?1888) was a Russian explorer, ethnologist, anthropologist and biologist who became famous as the first scientist to settle among and study people who had never seen a white man.
 
There've been many others too.
Link to post
Share on other sites
episode

I watched the Sirius movie.

 

Just another step toward the eventual recognition of intelligent alien life. ;)

 

Most people believe in extra-planetary intelligent life now. It just isn't here.

 

 

I strongly disagree with this statement.

 

Here's a list of the world's greatest explorers. Not all of them carried on their expeditions for purely imperialistic, economical, or political reasons. Some of them were genuinely interested in geography, cartography, biology, archaeology, and study of indigenous peoples' cultures. 

 

For example, 

 

Helge Marcus Ingstad (30 December 1899 ? 29 March 2001) was a Norwegian explorer. After mapping some Norse settlements, Ingstad and his wife Anne Stine, an archaeologist, in 1960 found remnants of a Viking settlement in L'Anse aux Meadows in the Province of Newfoundland in Canada. With that they were the first to prove conclusively that the Greenlandic Norsemen had found a way across the Atlantic Ocean to North America, roughly 500 years before Christopher Columbus and John Cabot.
 
or
 
Nicholas Miklouho-Maclay  (1846?1888) was a Russian explorer, ethnologist, anthropologist and biologist who became famous as the first scientist to settle among and study people who had never seen a white man.
 
There've been many others too.

 

 

And there is the show on H2 & History where the guy (Mark Wolter, I believe) studies all kinds of settlements believed to be from people who traveled to North America before Columbus. Name of the show is America Unearthed. Some of the stuff is a little farfetched, but some is definitely believable. 

 

Just a couple that I've personally been to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gungywamp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport_Tower_(Rhode_Island)

Link to post
Share on other sites
episode

That's just pure paranoia talking. There's absolutely no reason to presume that any visiting aliens would have to be hostile, or that they'd need to steal our resources.

 

In fact, if they have the capability for interstellar travel, not only would they probably have near infinite resources anyway, but they'd have access to an infinite number of worlds far more resource rich than our own, and probably closer too.  Why go to the effort of attacking some poor savages in a tiny backwater world?

 

If anything, visiting aliens are far more likely to be anthropologists or similar. Studying a world at an earlier stage of evolution etc.

 

If Stephen Hawking believes they would be hostile, chances are they would be.

Link to post
Share on other sites
FloatingFatMan

If Stephen Hawking believes they would be hostile, chances are they would be.

 

Stephen Hawking might be a smart man, but he's a theoretical physicist, not a behavioural or resources expert.  On something like this, his voice has no more weight than anyone else's.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
mudslag

I think it's funny that people still think intelligent life on other planets is something that only nut cases would believe in. The amount of credible witnesses is staggering. 

 

 

What credible witnesses? What makes them credible? What makes their word more credible then lack of physical evidence? 

Link to post
Share on other sites
mudslag

TBH only a fricking moron would believe we are the only intelligent life in the entire universe, mainly because if we are whats the point about space travel and exploring other planets if theres nothing worth finding

 

 

 

Who said life is the only thing worth finding? 

Link to post
Share on other sites
psionicinversion

yah but it would be pointless, sure new lands new things to discover new animals etc, but ultimately if were the only intelligent life in the universe its going to be a lonely place

Link to post
Share on other sites
Growled

Sounds like an interesting movie. I must watch it sometimes.

Link to post
Share on other sites
FloatingFatMan

Sounds like an interesting movie. I must watch it sometimes.

 

I tried last night.  Had to shut it off after 20 minutes, it was just too.... yeah.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Hum

TBH only a fricking moron would believe we are the only intelligent life in the entire universe, mainly because if we are whats the point about space travel and exploring other planets if theres nothing worth finding

They're probably looking for cheap oil and more gold ore. :laugh:

Link to post
Share on other sites
Hum
If anything, visiting aliens are far more likely to be anthropologists or similar. Studying a world at an earlier stage of evolution etc.

For some Alien visitors, Earth is their 'reality TV'. ;)

Link to post
Share on other sites
mrchetsteadman

What credible witnesses? What makes them credible? What makes their word more credible then lack of physical evidence? 

 

http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1168241-tin-foil-hats/

 

Read the first part of my rant sir.

 

And there isn't lack of evidence, you just chose to ignore it. It's funny that people will quote resources as fact only if it meshes with their own preconceived ideas. But if you read my rant, there are a lot of people much more qualified and intelligent that anyone here, including you, that believe in Alien life based on first hand experience. Actually read what I wrote and examine the sources and facts. If you can debunk every single one of those people, I'll agree with you. If you can't, don't answer back because it's based on pure ignorance.

 

BTW I noticed that you and I have been disagreeing since early 2011. I always respect your opinion, and it's been fun lol.

Link to post
Share on other sites
mudslag

http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1168241-tin-foil-hats/

 

Read the first part of my rant sir.

 

And there isn't lack of evidence, you just chose to ignore it. It's funny that people will quote resources as fact only if it meshes with their own preconceived ideas. But if you read my rant, there are a lot of people much more qualified and intelligent that anyone here, including you, that believe in Alien life based on first hand experience. Actually read what I wrote and examine the sources and facts. If you can debunk every single one of those people, I'll agree with you. If you can't, don't answer back because it's based on pure ignorance.

 

BTW I noticed that you and I have been disagreeing since early 2011. I always respect your opinion, and it's been fun lol.

 

 

 

Im in agreement that the likely hood of life and even intelligent life is more then plausible for a number of reasons, what I disagree with is your comment of "The amount of credible witnesses is staggering". It's irrelevant how many intelligent people you can pull up, not a single one can provide evidence to alien life existing let alone intelligent life. Calling them witnesses implies they can bare evidence to that idea, which is not true. Arguing that aspects for life to exists, such as planets existing in the goldilocks zone, key elements of life found all around the universe and so forth are still not evidence of life itself. Any true scientist you wish to pull from your list of witnesses would likely agree to that. So I don't need to debunk anything, actual evidence of life has yet to be presented including witnesses to said life. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Peresvet
      Hello!
       
      Is anyone here excited about Phoenix Point?
       
      I'm sooo looking forward to it being released! December can't come soon enough!
       
       
    • By zikalify
      Scientists discover four Earth-sized planets orbiting sun-like star
      by Paul Hill



      A team of international astronomers has discovered four Earth-sized planets orbiting Tau Ceti, a star similar to the Sun just 12 light years away, and visible to the naked eye if you’re residing in the southern hemisphere. The planets have masses as low as 1.7 Earth mass meaning they’re some of the smallest planets ever discovered around a Sun-like star.

      Two of the four planets are in the habitable zone of the star, which simply means that they could have liquid surface water; in our own planetary system, Venus, Earth, and Mars are in the habitable zone. An important factor to mention is that the outer two planets that are in the habitable zone will likely be affected by a sizeable debris disc around the star, therefore any life that emerges or could possibly exist would have to contend with asteroids and comets slamming into the planet.

      The discovery of the planets was down to advancements in the astronomers' techniques. They were detected, not directly, but rather by wobbles made to the movement of Tau Ceti. It required techniques that could detect variations in the movement of the star as small as 30 centimetres per second. Researchers are now getting close to being able to detect movements as small as 10 centimetres per second which will allow them to search for planets the same size as Earth.

      Steven Vogt, professor of astronomy and astrophysics at UC Santa Cruz, said:

      Sun-like stars are believed to be the best targets for finding Earth-like planets because they’re less likely to be tidally locked. Small red dwarf stars are more common, however, and any habitable planets that orbit them tend to be tidally locked due to the proximity, making them dissimilar to Earth.

      Source: UCSC

    • By Usama Jawad96
      Apple's new spaceship-like campus to be called 'Apple Park', opening in April
      by Usama Jawad

      In one of his last public appearances, Steve Jobs laid out plans for Apple's new corporate home, Campus 2. The new building would look like a UFO, or "a little like a spaceship", as Jobs described it. It has been several years since Campus 2 started construction, due to numerous delays. However, the company kept releasing videos of the facility from time to time, updating those interested on its progress.

      Now it looks like the building will be opening to Apple employees soon.

      According to the latest information provided by Apple, its new building will be called "Apple Park". The 175-acre facility has the capacity to house more than 12,000 employees, and is designed to be very energy-efficient with a 17MW on-site rooftop solar installation system. It is also the largest naturally ventilated building in the world, with projections estimating that it will require no heating or air-conditioning systems for nine months of the year.

      Apple has also touted its environmental-friendly attitude by saying that the ring-shaped campus replaces 5 million-square-feet of asphalt and concrete with more than 9,000 native and drought-resistant trees, an orchard, a pond and a meadow. Apple CEO Tim Cook had the following to say:

      In accordance with Steve Jobs' creative vision, the 2.8 million-square-foot building is attired in the world’s largest panels made of curved glass. In fact, to honor his memory, the Cupertino-based company has named the theater inside Apple Park after Steve Jobs as well. The 20-foot-tall cylindrical glass structure has the capacity to house more than 1,000 people. Jony Ive, Apple’s chief design officer, stated that:

      The Apple Park has been designed in collaboration with Foster + Partners. The facility will be ready for occupation by employees in April this year. However, Apple states that the transitioning process of over 12,000 employees to the new facility could take six months. Construction of buildings and parklands is also expected to continue throughout the summer.

      Source and images: Apple