Destian Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Just a random thought. Seems like a perfect match to me. They certaintly won't break like the current tiles. Any thoughts? If there is something I'm not considering I would really like to know. Otherwise, why the hell not? This is the most random thing I have ever posted. Yay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Well, we don't have the CPUs yet, so I think it'll take a while for much to come of those man-made diamonds, especially since they threaten to wreak havok on the economy. If only it wasn't about money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhut Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Possibly some minor things like heat capacity, density, reactivity... nothing much. You might be on to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destian Posted November 20, 2003 Author Share Posted November 20, 2003 What economy is that? The Debeers economy? :p Obviously, the CPUs are still in the dreaming/theory period, and the switch will take a whole new way of looking at things. Moving away from silicon is a HUGE step. However, I think the same properties that make diamonds desirable for cpus would make them desireable for a spacecraft, and with the state of the industry being as it is at this moment I'm somewhat surprised no one has mentioned it. Using diamonds for CPUs will much more of a design change. With a craft you would simply need to "glue" the damn things on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamweaverN Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 They are close but still atleast 5 years away from doing this, but we are close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-penguin Veteran Posted November 20, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 20, 2003 meh carbon and metal transistors are up first... not diaminds ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelly2003 Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Whats the money worry for? People will still want "real" diamonds for their jewellery, etc, so people will still pay good money for them. I'd imagine that it would push diamond prices up, because the "real" thing will become rare. That gold stuff you see on the end of a chip (such as CPU) actually is gold. That doesnt affect the gold trade too much does it? EDIT: Before people flame me about that gold thing, I learned that at school a few years ago, so I'm not 100% sure, so I will believe it untill someone proves me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Player Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Lets hope not, CPUs are pricey enough as it is ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamweaverN Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Diamonds are not pricey, they are fairly cheap truth be told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelly2003 Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 CPU's have had gold for years, they dont have LOTS of gold, but they have enough to conduct electricity, because gold conducts electricity really well, hence it is ideal for cpu contacts. I couldnt imagine man made diamonds to be very expensive to be honest. Being mass produced and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fulcrum Subscriber¹ Posted November 20, 2003 Subscriber¹ Share Posted November 20, 2003 Yes our computer boards have Gold contacts. However, this gold is otherwise worthless, you'd be surprised how little bit of gold is actually on those boards. Gold is an exciting element, it is extremely elastic. You can stretch it and it will retain its' conductivity among other things. If you're familiar with a troy ounce; 1 Troy ounce of Gold can stretch over 200 square foot. So in this respect, board manufacturers could comparatively save money in purchasing amounts of Gold rather than the more common and more available elements of Silver and Copper. I didn't think Diamonds were NOT rare, but they really Are Not Rare! But it's just how DeBeers controls the market of Diamonds, just like Saudi Arabia and OPEC, they can do this because they got the advantage, they own most of the known Diamond mines, and the in Africa, labor happens to be cheap and harsh. =P Metal Transistors, now whats that all about, any Articles? Any Articles about creating Diamonds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wprigjoigj3i40jhgi0435ejh Veteran Posted November 20, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 20, 2003 Diamonds are not pricey, they are fairly cheap truth be told. meh, thats what i thought. until i bought an engagement ring back in april...HELL NO THEY ARE NOT CHEAP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-penguin Veteran Posted November 20, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 20, 2003 Metal Transistors, now whats that all about, any Articles?Any Articles about creating Diamonds? ibm, amd and intel have been experimenting with ne transistor gates including:dual gates http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/200011110...trunc_sys.shtml tri gates http://news.com.com/2100-1001-958149.html http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/0,3902035...39116510,00.htm metal oxides http://www.bell-labs.com/news/1997/november/21/1.html and even carbon to replace silicons tracings (only in memory right now) http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/30680.html and man made/ fake diamonds.............. cubit zerconia anyone.. do not have the same capicity as real diamonds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayrider Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 honestly, Diamonds are so worthless... the only people that decide the price of a diamond is DeBeers. They hold millions of diamonds that they dont even sell to the public just so that theyre hold some sort of value. If one day DeBeers decides to dump these stones on the market, beleive me, diamonds will be as cheap as glass. And the make a diamond is incredibly difficult, it requires extreme pressure, ive seen the machines on TV, and theyre about the size of a warehouse and only produce a tiny, maybe less than 1 karat diamond. there is a type of diamond floating around the market that is man made, and FAKE, a lot of gemologists are being fooled by this fake diamond. My dads friend actually got robbed for 30,000$ for one of them. They pass every diamond test (except for 1 i think). Maybe they're talking about that. AFAIK to make a board out of diamond is unfeasable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fulcrum Subscriber¹ Posted November 20, 2003 Subscriber¹ Share Posted November 20, 2003 meh, thats what i thought. until i bought an engagement ring back in april...HELL NO THEY ARE NOT CHEAP! I just want to :laugh: after this post.Oh Yea, and does anyone know where that, "spend 2 month's income on engagement ring" rule came from? Was it...DeBeers :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutternutin Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 meh, thats what i thought. until i bought an engagement ring back in april...HELL NO THEY ARE NOT CHEAP! I just want to :laugh: after this post.Oh Yea, and does anyone know where that, "spend 2 month's income on engagement ring" rule came from? Was it...DeBeers :D They upped it to 3 months salary...inflation, I guess! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+chorpeac MVC Posted November 20, 2003 MVC Share Posted November 20, 2003 Just a random thought. Seems like a perfect match to me. They certaintly won't break like the current tiles.Any thoughts? If there is something I'm not considering I would really like to know. Otherwise, why the hell not? This is the most random thing I have ever posted. Yay. OK I am going to have to challenge your "I just thought this up" theory. You may have well just "thought it up" being the intelligent person you may be. HOWEVER, there was an article on this very issue in WIRED magazine a month or two back. Here is the link to the article.http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.09/diamond.html Please tell me you aren't pretending to make this crap up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfrem Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure you will!) But isn't diamond simply carbon? And isn't carbon flammable? So wouldn't they be useless for replacing the shuttle's tiles? What about the heat of re-entry? They'd just burn up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destian Posted November 20, 2003 Author Share Posted November 20, 2003 Just a random thought. Seems like a perfect match to me. They certaintly won't break like the current tiles.Any thoughts? If there is something I'm not considering I would really like to know. Otherwise, why the hell not? This is the most random thing I have ever posted. Yay. OK I am going to have to challenge your "I just thought this up" theory. You may have well just "thought it up" being the intelligent person you may be. HOWEVER, there was an article on this very issue in WIRED magazine a month or two back. Here is the link to the article.http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.09/diamond.html Please tell me you aren't pretending to make this crap up. Uh... read my post again. I never said I thought up using diamonds for CPUs. The post was about using them for spacecraft, which I don't believe is mentioned in the wired article or anywhere else as far as I know. THAT was my "idea" although I doubt I'm the first person to think of it. I thought it could make for some interesting discussion.I did read the article. Before that I never imagined man-made diamonds. Don't be such an ass. If you're going to insult someone at least read what he wrote first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destian Posted November 20, 2003 Author Share Posted November 20, 2003 Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure you will!)But isn't diamond simply carbon? And isn't carbon flammable? So wouldn't they be useless for replacing the shuttle's tiles? What about the heat of re-entry? They'd just burn up! Diamonds have an insanely high thermal conductivity, which is why many believe they will be used for CPUs. This, combined with the fact that are nearly impossible to break would make them ideal for "thermal plates" used for re-entry, wouldn't it?Again, there could be something I'm missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanVP Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Diamonds as CPUs? Interesting....here is another article: http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/000868.html which is pretty much correct, IMO. You need a massive heat fan or cooler just to cool the dang thing. The technology appears viable but then again, do does protein computers, etc....I don't expect to see this technology being on your motherboard for the next 5-10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fulcrum Subscriber¹ Posted November 22, 2003 Subscriber¹ Share Posted November 22, 2003 Diamonds do evaporate at extreme temperatures.. Isaac Newton demonstrated this along with a colleague of his, back in the day....I think it was Newton. :happy: Even so, im sure it's beyond the temperatures expelled by computers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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