arhra Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 Originally posted by orphic /. is a n excellent source for anyone with a normal human brain to go and read about techie stuff. Slashdot's discussions are utterly crap these days (they were ok a few years ago, but now they're filled with utter morons), and the news posts, while generally interesting, are almost always the same news as you can see on kuro5hin.org, or arstechnica.com, etc, so i really don't see the need to visit /. any more, since it was the discussions that used to mark it out above the average geek news site, and they've gone so far downhill that they're more of a deterrent than an attraction now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y_notm Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 wow, I didn't think that screen I posted would get that much attention. :D now I'm gonna try and let you guys figure out if its real or not. I'll give you a hint: it's not desktopx and if you want more screens let me know, I can upload a few others :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orphic Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 Kuro5hin is just a /. rip off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
space monkey Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 Slashdot's discussions are utterly crap these days (they were ok a few years ago, but now they're filled with utter morons)... ...And people that think simply being able to install OpenBSD is some significant rite of passage that serves a free license to regurgitate sophmoronic babble repudiating Microsoft without any technical merit whatsoever. In the real world that's called a charlatan and when you graduate from high school or college, better keep that ****e in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEMCARTY2K Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 Animated windows, robotic voices when alerts of any kind occur. Lighter winodws was a good idea get rid of some of the crap that might come with the OS. BETTER CUSTOMIZATION ABILITIES. and the same stuff you great people have mentioned. I just want the next windows to come out of the classical look, and give us a taste of futuristic feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemo Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 my 2cents: Binary:I think he meant for the next version of windows to use the unix kernel arhra which I wouldnt be surprised if they did, they seem to steal every other idea from mac, so why not kernels now? ps I know mac didnt make unix, but they did come up with the idea to start using a "modified" unix kernel in a mainstream OS Just like MS stole some ideas from MAC, MAC's stole some ideas from *nix. SO it goes all ways here.I agree 100% with what arha said, about unix being a standard and everything... [saint lucifer]I would just like to see programs and the OS itself to use less memory. It would help. But as there are bigger hard drives coming out, bigger sticks of RAM, and of course, faster cpu's, what your asking for is never going to happen. Binary:What I would like to see most from windows is the ability to customize WHATEVER you want on your own, I know thats asking alot, but they tend to keep us shackled in alot of ways Even taunt us at times Yess'm :) can't agree with you more.Vinh:Something good for the next release of windows.. humm i know i like something in mind *Windows not to accept any aol dailup setup-cds. *IE to ban the use of aol.com ahaha yeah.. that would make life perfect. well almost. Osiris:Also Security, I want to be able to Lock folders or permit other local accounts or other ppl as u sers on the pc from accessing folders, theres 3rd party apps that dop this but it should be a built in feature. Apart from that MS, just Dazzle me with brand spanking new Interface. I agree with the rest of what you said. But um... its called NTFS. Once you have your drive under NTFS, right click on the folder and go to properties. Then the advanced tab. There, just what you asked for :)Orphic: 1.) Built-In Resource Hacker * Hex Editor under Start > Accessories > System Tools 2.) A full.src.zip included on the CD. 3.) Custom install options BEFORE the OS has been installed. 5.) A better DOS. 8.) Disable built-in firewall. 22.) Last but not least, a new logo that does not involve the ever so recognized windows flag. Everything else I agree with or don't want to comment. 1.) Yep, good idea, but then MS would monopolize that business too. 2.) Then MS would lose their main source of income. 3.) Yep. cant agree more. 5.) XP doesn't run off of DOS. 8.) You can. Right click on your connection. its under the advanced tab. i think. somewhere over there. 22.) Then it won't be windows! ----- Whoever posted about those avatars.. they are gay. thats why you make your own :) ------ Everythign else i think is pretty much covered. Stability with XP is no problem, as most of you will agree. I think its just more now customization of everything that everyone wants. Plus some more new features... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam2001 Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 Hmmm what do i want to see in the next version of windows? Hmm thats a tough question let me see, no bladdy crashes, no freezes, better hardware suport, better software support, but then again thats wot MS uses to make ppl upgrade to the newer versions of there OS. The day i pay for their OS is the day that i have too much money to know what to do with. Which will be NEVER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orphic Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 5.) A better DOS. 8.) Disable built-in firewall. Corrections for those that did not understand what I meanr: 5.) Xp, does not run on DOS. But there is a 'console window' and it is pretty much dos, but gayer. It needs major bug fixes in alot fo areas... 8.) I meant disable the firewall as a 'WHOLE' from the OS..People on average don't know about it and most will use another firewall such as Norton. McAfee, BlackIce, etc...Using more than firewall slows your traffic down, uses more resources, and causes connection problems on many net-hased applications and protocols such as P2P... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 I'll give you a hint: it's not desktopx and if you want more screens let me know, I can upload a few others Sure, upload a few others. I would like to know what the entire UI looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0sit0 Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 In the Next release of Windows I want to see The best Messenger ever, not this 4.6 (it Suxz) w/o ADS. also with more features, like, Yahoo! Messenger and ICQ, that u can send a msg to the user when offline , and he will receive it when it's online. I like that feature alot :). What else What else???? Mmm.... I think I would like the best Media Player, because Windows Media Player 8 Suxz (let's Hope Windows Media Corona is not the same). Mmmm... A buggy-free Shell Audio Player!!! , the Add-On pack for WMP8 really Suxz too. Well... i think that's all for me :s, am I forgetting something??? Ohhh, it will be Good to have a FREE-Program to create THEMES, and MS could make a site to exchange the themes we create :), TGTSOFT is good , but we have to pay, (don't like hackers that charge for their hacks) and that's it :ermm: (I think i will never see that) :old: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 Originally posted by Toxikk yes. just like os x. it would be more stable than xp even. Man, every OS sucks. After using UNIX for about 6 months now, it is not any better than NT/2000/XP. And not near as forgiving! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arhra Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 Xp, does not run on DOS. But there is a 'console window' and it is pretty much dos, but gayer. It needs major bug fixes in alot fo areas... o_O cmd.exe >> command.com the only way you could possibly come to the conclusion that the command interpreter in XP is worse than classic DOS is if you're running command.com through the NTVDM rather than the native cmd.exe. And where are these major bug fixes it needs "in a lot of areas"? The only major bug i'm aware of is the CSRSS one that lets a console mode app walk a pointer out of it's memory space be backspacing off the end of a buffer, and that's apparently going to be fixed in W2k SP3 and XP SP1. There are a lot of limitations due to the implementation of the entire console-mode subsystem, which is tied far too closely to CSRSS, and has other issues, but those aren't really bugs as such, and are apparently going to be addressed with Longhorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnqpublic Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 I agree with you all that the OS should be more customizable, but I don't agree that you should have so many built-in features. Remember, that's the reason why MS got in trouble in the first place: they wanted to enhance the desktop with web features and add some more stuff to the OS while allowing it to be secure (a relative term as I believe that as long as a system is operable, it is insecure in the absolute sense) and fast. Course, IE had much of those capabilities built-in and it probably seemed like a good idea to just pack that into the OS, but that killed Netscape and they were flagged as a monopoly. Apple thinks differently (I don't know of any legal Mac clones or even other companies producing different processors to compete with the PowerPC; plus, OSX is much more of a resource hog than XP, when most Mac owners would claim that their machine is more efficient) from Microsoft, and we should count our lucky stars that our monitor, CPU and other components don't read "Microsoft" on them. But if OSX suddenly became extremely customizable via built-in apps and Microsoft followed suit (innovation should not be restricted), the folks at TGTSoft and StarDock would cry and yell at the monopoly that is Microsoft. Bottomline: make Windows customizable, but through known extensions of the API so that 3rd party programs can take advantage of it and perhaps implement some basic apps to satisfy those who prefer not to pay for that 3rd party program. I think that it is great that WMP8 sux in comparison to some other programs because that will encourage you to go out to get one of those others. Microsoft just needs to focus on kernel, security and hardware efficiency (the OS) and leave it to others to make cool programs. That's just my two (or three) cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Gates Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 well, blackcomb won't be out for a while, longhorns first. mac will be as bankrupt as Kmart by then, so, no worrys. Mr. Jobs will be Bill's little b!tch or something. who knows, mabey those toilet seat titatium laptops will take over, or mabey the lamp looking iMac with a stripper pole attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemo Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 Originally posted by Phil Gates well, blackcomb won't be out for a while, longhorns first. mac will be as bankrupt as Kmart by then, so, no worrys. Mr. Jobs will be Bill's little b!tch or something. who knows, mabey those toilet seat titatium laptops will take over, or mabey the lamp looking iMac with a stripper pole attached. LMFAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzo Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 In the next version of windows i... please put in some selfdestruction code,everytime you fail to use or,setup the child os,make it eat itself LOL! Microsoft sued again,will it ever end? Maybe come up with a own idea for a bloddy change!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr33k Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 no activation a complete list of cmds for the cmd prompt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyt302 Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 I want the return of real dos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 FOr the record Orphic I am aware of the other products out there before I cast judgement on a product ill try others first, Ive used Linux, Mac, and BeOS, so theres a bit of variety there , yet the fact is im always comming back to Windows as its simply the easiest and most compatible and just best OS there is. The others have there good points but Windows suits my agenda the best. For the record I know theres also other mp3 players out there other then WinAmp, I wonder if youve actually tried them other then hearing about them? Nemo, thanks for that mate, I was unaware of the capabilitiies of NTFS, I must indeed investigate and find out the full capabilites of NTFS. Still inbuilt Folder protection under Fat32 would be sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepDirt Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 -More useful command line/GUI tools. It's really a pain trying to automate tasks in Windows. The Reskit helps, as do various win32 scripting languages but in the end having a lot of useful command line tools would be easier. -More useful error messages. Unfortunately, with Windows you pretty much get the same error message for any number of things so troubleshooting mostly comes down to intuition and not facts. A verbose kernel log would be beautiful, the NT event log is too user friendly to be useful. (Although it's better than nothing) -More web based features. How about encrypted SMB? An sftp client so we can kill off ftp for good, an ssh client? No one uses telnet anymore. -Separate the user from the OS. By this I mean ? Your user profile should work on another copy of Windows as long as the software is all installed. Under unix, I can just copy the ~/. folder and with minor modifications (often none) I can have all my settings ready to go. You should be able to reinstall your OS, your apps and have ALL your settings EXACTLY how you had them before. -Full code audit. I'd be willing to wait a few extra years for the above features if Microsoft wanted to spend a year cleaning up the existing NT code base. There's little reason that NT can't be in use 20 years from now unless computers change drastically. They should spend time cleaning up the code every 5 years or so to ensure they're not building on top of a weak foundation. UI wise... I'm happy with the Windows UI. It's not that it's the best GUI ever created but I've been using it now for 7 years and at this point... it's totally natural to me. Some tasks are harder than they have to be but familiarity can beat ease-of-use 90% of the time. Everyone wants eye candy features... everyone I know turns those things off 15 minutes after they use them for the first time. They don't improve your computing any... they simply make you think more about the GUI and less about what you're actually doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y_notm Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 Originally posted by codyg11 Sure, upload a few others. I would like to know what the entire UI looks like. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Gates Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 ok, ok, enough mac jokes ( mabey ;-) ) i would want to see a smaller price tag, plus! to be a downloadable powertoy (that's free), and...... no yellow dogs in my search menu (or a question mark telling me what to do dammit) :evil: :ponder: :paranoid: :knocked: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 Well, those screenshots look real to a certain degree, especially IE. If they are fake, whoever made them did a good job of faking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deadzombie Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 Features I'd like to see added to Windows... 1) Wetware interface. Terabyte/sec connection hardwired into back of users head. seeing as that is probably going to be in R&D for awhile, then I'd be happy with; 2) unlocked msstyles native to the OS with an expanded display properties dialog. 3) Windows seperated into core OS (bare naked) and an add-on feature dialog (WMP, IE, Textpad, etc...) during install. 4) Vector based interface? maybe 5) Built in res hack for items such as shell32.dll 6) ALL INSTALLATION FILES IN ONE DIRECTORY SITTING ON C:. D@mn I hate files spread all over the place. 7) New user interface for the registry, allowing easier control 8) Real help files. (ie; "Help - How to restore compressed folders in the explorer interface.") 9) A real uninstaller that eliminates any 3rd party app installed. Clean. 10.) A recycle bin that really destroys files on the HD. 11.) A "see-into" monitor window. I want to see the inside of my monitor sometimes. Doesn't everyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y/C Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 "Minesweeper": NOT ANYMORE :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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