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The government has announced that all street conversations in the UK will now be monitored with listening devices inserted into lamp posts. :huh:

Think I?m joking? Councils across several major cities in England have announced the insertion of new ?intelligent? listening devices  which will allegedly be used to counteract terrorism and crime.

The Sigard system has been tested in London, Manchester, Birmingham, Glasgow and Coventry. The microphones, connected to CCTV cameras and lampposts, can recognise aggressive ?trigger? words and sounds, then automatically direct cameras to zoom in on the speakers.

The manufacturers of these spy devices have however, denied the system is used to record conversations.

It analyses sound patterns to pick out angry or distressed voices. The announcement of these devices comes just days after approximately 200 cameras with number plate recognition software in Birmingham was scrapped after  it emerged that they were being targeted at the city?s Asian districts.

But this new system, Sigard, has come under fire from privacy campaigners. Corinna Ferguson, a lawyer for human rights group Liberty, said: ?Britain has been far too complacent about the growth of CCTV without any proper public debate or legal safeguards. With cameras linked to microphones and number-plate databases, everyone can be treated as a suspect.

?The Birmingham fiasco demonstrates the destructive power of snooping on whole communities who could otherwise be pulling together to fight crime and terrorism.?

The creators of the system revealed that it has not only been used on the streets, but also on public transport included buses and trains, retail stores, event halls, nightclubs, bus stations, tunnels and prisons.

Once certain keywords are picked up, or if the tone of voice is deemed to be ?aggressive?, ?distressed?, or ?angry?, alerts will then be sent to the police to monitor or attend the situation.

The microphones can listen in on conversations up to 100 yards away. The cameras then record both sound and images. The system filters out background noise and focuses on suspect sounds.

The system is already widely used in Holland, where 12 cities have already adopted it. In Coventry, the CV One partnership, funded by the city council, tested Sigard for six months by installing seven in the city?s nightclub district.

No-one from the organisation would comment on the trial?s success. :ninja:

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djdanster

I'd just shout out some key words and then give the camera my beautiful middle finger!

 

But seriously... I'm never going outside again.

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Boo Berry

Big Brother is listening everywhere.  :shifty:

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Hum

I'd yell Allah ! and Jihad !!! :woot:

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Arachno 1D

Its a similar system to that used in the US of A and is over there at least,used to pinpoint small arms fire so I understand.

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FiB3R

This is one seriously ######ed up world we live in :(

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Growled

This is one seriously ****ed up world we live in :(

 

It's getting a bit scary to tell you the truth.

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Torolol

and surely that was ineffective, just look what happen when Muslim wielding machete near an unarmed British soldier ... 

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44MLX

You can stay calm and still detonate a bomb, useless. It's the NSA again!

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FlintyV

Never heard of Akashic Times and seems odd for them to rehash news from 2010

 

Systems like this are fairly common. 

 

Also a FOI request showed it was never used beyond the 6 month testing phase in Coventry. 

 

There's very little on the Internet about it so I'm doubtful it's still in use. 

 

Seems like a crappy source for news. 

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Lord Method Man

Not surprising coming from the UK.

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McKay

Never heard of Akashic Times and seems odd for them to rehash news from 2010

 

Systems like this are fairly common. 

 

I thought this sounded familiar.

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FlintyV

Not surprising coming from the UK.

 

Also used in the Netherlands. Point being?

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Soldiers33

all this terrorism excuses are so annoying. Read bible and you will know exactly whats happening. And no im not being sarcastic.

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The Evil Overlord

Why do people get so defensive over stuff like this? I don't get it.

I get that one's privacy means a lot, but honestly, they don't care about general conversations, they're just looking out for key words and such, if anything, it can help set up a profile of a said area or person, which in one way would stop accidental raids on innocent homes (which do happen from time to time)

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Dushmany, on 30 Oct 2013 - 09:22, said:

Why do people get so defensive over stuff like this? I don't get it.

I get that one's privacy means a lot, but honestly, they don't care about general conversations, they're just looking out for key words and such, if anything, it can help set up a profile of a said area or person, which in one way would stop accidental raids on innocent homes (which do happen from time to time)

 

Or if you happen to come up with the most recent buzzwords of choice, something anti-government etc.. you'll be targeted for a raid by that afternoon

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Soldiers33

why do you believe the government when they say its to fight crime and terrorism? This is the biggest lie ever. They blow up a few bombs, people get scared, then they say we will protect you. Each time the public allows the government to take more and more control just for their safety, when in fact its becoming less safe now than it ever was.

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The Evil Overlord

why do you believe the government when they say its to fight crime and terrorism? This is the biggest lie ever. They blow up a few bombs, people get scared, then they say we will protect you. Each time the public allows the government to take more and more control just for their safety, when in fact its becoming less safe now than it ever was.

I don't I just don't think I have anything to worry about, as I have nothing to hide, like everyone else, I just live my life within the accepted norm,

(Or I'm just na?ve and still have faith in my community)

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The Evil Overlord

Or if you happen to come up with the most recent buzzwords of choice, something anti-government etc.. you'll be targeted for a raid by that afternoon

I would think that 'they' would know the difference between a known criminal/terrorist/*insert watched profile here* and someone simply taking the p**s

it's not like they have monkeys monitoring this stuff, they must be trained to filter out/know the difference between general chatter and potential plots

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Arachno 1D

Well your not on my list................yet!

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The Evil Overlord

Well your not on my list................yet!

If you're an extremely hot female and in the mood, please feel free to put me on your list :p

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Dushmany, on 30 Oct 2013 - 09:46, said:Dushmany, on 30 Oct 2013 - 09:46, said:

I would think that 'they' would know the difference between a known criminal/terrorist/*insert watched profile here* and someone simply taking the p**s

it's not like they have monkeys monitoring this stuff, they must be trained to filter out/know the difference between general chatter and potential plots

 

Since we're throwing around hypotheticals here - more than likely they will be instructed to keep a watch on anyone who says anything remotely "interesting". Governments know the amount of potential civil unrest that is coming, they've been pushing it for years just waiting for things to boil over and then they can implement as many draconian crackdowns as they like in the name of "protecting the country" or "combating domestic terrorism" or some other nonsense reason.

 

If anything, plans like that would have been put in place for 40 years just waiting for the time to be wheeled out. As an example look up REX 84 from the United States and look at the language used, then compare to todays language for describing the same thing. Nothing has changed, and no doubt the UK and other countries have something similar.

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The Evil Overlord

~snipped~

Like I said, maybe I'm just na?ve, I'm just not at the point where I think we should be worried, yet.

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