FloatingFatMan Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 ^ Likewise. Hell, I'd go up as cargo! DocM, Draggendrop, Unobscured Vision and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted July 14, 2016 Veteran Share Posted July 14, 2016 Dragon 2 cargo variant would be my guess...thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 The SpaceX CRS-2 award mentioned using both Dragon 1 and Dragon 2, with Dragon 1 having the big CBM port for bulky cargo and Dragon 2 having a rapid trip propulsive landing option. Landing sites are KSC LZ-1, 2 or 3; the Houston Spaceport at Ellington; and IIRC Edwards. Right to NASA or the USAF's front yard. Also, starting with CRS-11 Dragon 1's will be reflown airframes. This frees up the production line for Dragon 2's. REUSE IS HERE. The second is likely Cargo Dream Chaser since it has an IDA. No room in the tail for the large CBM, and the small CBM is nearly the same size as IDA. Unobscured Vision, Draggendrop and Jim K 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) Commercial Crew Program Partner Milestones Uncrewed ISS test flights Crew Dragon: May 2017Boeing Starliner: December 2017 Crewed ISS test flights Crew Dragon: August 2017 Boeing Starliner: February 2018 Certification Review Crew Dragon: October 2017 Boeing Starliner: May 2018 Edited July 25, 2016 by DocM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+John. Subscriber¹ Posted July 25, 2016 Subscriber¹ Share Posted July 25, 2016 I'm looking forward to November then! Those suits are going to be the absolute bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beittil Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Was following tweets about the presser, unbelievable how that mess of an SLS/Orion is going to be at least a full decade behind the facts _if_ the SpaceX timeline holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) Yup. Even if BFS slips 1-2 synods they'll beat NASA there - unless some suits and pols grow a brain and hitch a ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobscured Vision Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I'm still shocked that it hasn't been cancelled. Meanwhile the CCP timeline (thanks to LH/M and the problems with Starliner) has had to be bumped again. I don't have a problem with SpaceX having more time to work on Dragon 2, of course -- after all, it's good sense to make the most of the opportunity when your competition has knocked themselves on their own posteriors from their own mistakes -- but Starliner might as well be Apollo 2.0 ... the design is from 2003. Talk about a severe lack of creativity. Even SpaceX has to be getting frustrated by the delays by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 That's an understatement. RocketPlane-Kistler wasn't this far behind when NASA pulled their COTS cargo contract and gave it to Orbital Sciences. Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 Draggendrop and Unobscured Vision 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted July 30, 2016 Veteran Share Posted July 30, 2016 Just a repost, my end has no text....could be just me though...... Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted July 30, 2016 Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 SpaceX will be shipping 2 former NASA MILA (Merritt Island Launch Annex) S-band 9 meter ground station antennas from KSC to Brownsville, arriving September-ish. These will be used, along with other stations, to track Dragon missions. Unobscured Vision, Draggendrop and Jim K 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobscured Vision Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Awww yeah! NOW it's ramping up! Draggendrop 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted July 30, 2016 Veteran Share Posted July 30, 2016 The start of DSxN....Deep SpaceX Network. Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 Tick off another milestone. https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/08/19/spacex-conducts-successful-crew-dragon-parachute-system-test/ SpaceX Conducts Successful Crew Dragon Parachute System Test A Crew Dragon test article successfully deployed its four main parachutes as planned during a test that saw the SpaceX-made test article dropped from a C-130 aircraft 26,000 feet above Delamar Dry Lake, Nevada. The Crew Dragon, designed to fly astronauts to the International Space Station, will use four parachutes when returning to Earth. SpaceX plans to land the initial flight tests and missions in the Atlantic Ocean. SpaceX is working on a propulsive landing system the company intends to use in the future missions to propulsively land on land using its SuperDraco engines. The parachute test is just one of an evaluation regimen that is expected to include many additional parachute drops of increasing complexity. SpaceX and NASA engineers will use the results throughout the test program to confirm the system and get it certified for use first on flight tests and then for operational missions. Photos by SpaceX. Emn1ty, Unobscured Vision and Beittil 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted August 20, 2016 Author Share Posted August 20, 2016 Emn1ty, Unobscured Vision and Draggendrop 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted August 20, 2016 Veteran Share Posted August 20, 2016 That was a gentle landing...nice. Unobscured Vision and Emn1ty 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 @jeff_foust from AIAA 2016 Crew Dragon Benji Reed of SpaceX says to drive by company HQ in Hawthorne to see landed F9 booster. “It’s a lot bigger than you think.” #AIAASpace Reed: going through lot of testing on Crew Dragon, including parachutes, capsule qualification, design closeouts. #AIAASpace Reed didn’t give any specific schedules for Crew Dragon demo missions, which likely in flux anyway. #AIAASpace Reed: focus is on getting F9 ready to fly again soon. We want to fly when it’s safe, and keep comm’l crew on track. #AIAASpace Unobscured Vision and Draggendrop 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 Sounds like the Dragon 2 propulsive landing tests worked and NASA is on board: the CRS-2 ISS cargo runs will use it. @jeff_foust [Benji] Reed [SpaceX]: SpaceX has delivered 15,800 kg of cargo to ISS, returned 12,100 kg to date. 11 more missions remaining on CRS-1 contract. >Reed: well use Dragon 2 for our CRS-2 missions, with propulsive landing (vs. splashdown). #ISPCS2016 > Reed: well re-fly our first Dragon capsule on the SpX-11 mission, so relatively soon. #ISPCS2016 > Reed: reusing Dragon capsules will allow us to close down the Dragon 1 production line and focus on Dragon 2. #ISPCS2016 > Reed: biggest issue for reusing Dragon was dealing with water intrusion. Worked hard to update capsule to avoid it. #ISPCS2016 Unobscured Vision and Draggendrop 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted October 14, 2016 Veteran Share Posted October 14, 2016 Those tests must have went well. I seem to remember that NASA was only luke warm to the idea, if an opportunity presented itself. We will now have another landing "show" to attend .... Unobscured Vision and DocM 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 As noted in the general SpaceX thread, the test vehicle showed up for Obama to get a look so it must have worked. A bit of soot, wear & tear but not a crash test victim. Draggendrop and Unobscured Vision 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 Guess who's taking a trip on ASDS Just Read the Instructions in California? https://www.facebook.com/groups/spacexgroup/permalink/10154819972796318/ Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 From ISPCS* 2016: SpaceX's Benjamin "Benji" Reed, Director of Crew Mission Management 1) Commonality between Crew and Cargo Dragon 2; both will dock, no berthing, plus what's below. 2) all 6 CRS Round 2 missions will use Cargo Dragon 2 with propulsive landing at KSC. 3) Cargo Dragon 2 has significantly more internal volume. [To meet the CRS Round 2 max delivered volume requirement in 6 flights it would need to be about 11.7 m^3. Cargo Dragon 1 is 10 m^3] 4) working on unused CRS Round 2 upmass to be sold commercially [per NASA.] 5) CRS-11 will be a reflown Cargo Dragon 1. *International Symposium for Personal and Commercial Spaceflight Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobscured Vision Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Awww yeah. They wanted to retire the Cargo Dragons, so it's fine. I'd love to see them refly one or two of them though, just to prove that it was all worth the trouble -- and they'll succeed brilliantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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