American Ninja Posted November 29, 2003 Share Posted November 29, 2003 I saw on the back of my PS2 games I bought Jak2 and Ratchet and Clank going commando it says progressive scan as one if its features. Also i know the newer PS2s come with progrssive scan and I was wondering what is progressive scan and what does it do? :blink: Thanks, Aaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted November 29, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 29, 2003 I get this question alot at best buy, where I work. Without diving into details, progressive scan reads through the image output multiple times to gives a clearer more accurate screen image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BeLGaRaTh Subscriber¹ Posted November 29, 2003 Subscriber¹ Share Posted November 29, 2003 Google is your friend Its only of use really to NTSC systems which have less lines to their picture compared to the rest of the world (PAL and SeCAM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted November 29, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 29, 2003 I saw on the back of my PS2 games I bought Jak2 and Ratchet and Clank going commando it says progressive scan as one if its features. Also i know the newer PS2s come with progrssive scan and I was wondering what is progressive scan and what does it do? :blink: Thanks, Aaron I'm not sure that progressive scan does much for normal CRT televisions but you can read more about progressive scan here: http://www.progressivescan.co.uk/progressive.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redFX Posted November 29, 2003 Share Posted November 29, 2003 Progressive means that the screan is drawn all at once in one shot. For example, you have interlaced TVs that if you go up really really close to them, you see white lines between each line of video. Whats happening is that every off line gets drawn, then all even lines. They get drawn back and forth really fast and you see TV images. Progressive everything is drawn at once. Its clearer. You need a progressive scan TV to be able to utilize the progressive tech on the games. They even have progressive dvd players. Usually, high end flat HDTVs have progressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted November 29, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 29, 2003 I'm not sure that progressive scan does much for normal CRT televisions but you can read more about progressive scan here:http://www.progressivescan.co.uk/progressive.php You are correct. You really need a monitor that supports High Definition and the Progessive scan technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Ninja Posted November 29, 2003 Author Share Posted November 29, 2003 ah ok I understand now guys thanks alot :) So turning on progressive scan for those two game wont matter unless I have a TV and a PS2 that supports it right? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boffa Jones Veteran Posted November 30, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 30, 2003 Hey does 480i work with progressive scan games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 (edited) Whew. Lots of replies and only one decent piece of information. Progressive scan is, as redFX said, when the output device sends the picture out, frame by frame, in one shot, exactly the same way your computer sends it to you monitor. Normal NTSC transmissions are interlaced. I'm not going to go into detail as to why, but it's because of the original black-and-white TV technology. This means that for every 1/30th of a second (one frame of video), the first 1/60th of a second has the odd lines, the next 1/60th of a second has the even lines. If there's camera or object movement in that 1/30th of a second, you get this horrible stipple pattern in the image. With progressive scan, every frame of video (1/30th of a second) is sent in one shot. All HDTVs handle progressive scan. They have to because it's part of the HDTV spec. Also, you need component inputs for progressive scan. If all you have is S-Video, you're not getting progressive scan. Apart from the more solid picture, component video gives you DRASTICALLY better color and detail. Is there such a thing as 480i? Yes. HDTVs have to handle that also. 480i isn't progressive scan, it's the interlaced version of the low-end of HDTV. HDTV formats are: 480i 480p 720p 1080i The PS2 and GC support 480i. Most recent GC games support 480p. Very few PS2 games support 480p. The Xbox supports ALL formats. Whether the games take advantage of it is a different story. For a list of ALL games and what they support, click here: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/sh...threadid=100055 Here's a good link showing the differences between them: http://www.iqeye.com/mkt/progressive.htm Mike Edited November 30, 2003 by Starman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boffa Jones Veteran Posted November 30, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 30, 2003 thanks starman. And what do you hold to set up progressive on xbox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mipra Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 man..that's an explantion..thanks starman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Ninja Posted November 30, 2003 Author Share Posted November 30, 2003 Whew. Lots of replies and only one decent piece of information.Progressive scan is, as redFX said, when the output device sends the picture out, frame by frame, in one shot, exactly the same way your computer sends it to you monitor. Normal NTSC transmissions are interlaced. I'm not going to go into detail as to why, but it's because of the original black-and-white TV technology. This means that for every 1/30th of a second (one frame of video), the first 1/60th of a second has the odd lines, the next 1/60th of a second has the even lines. If there's camera or object movement in that 1/30th of a second, you get this horrible stipple pattern in the image. With progressive scan, every frame of video (1/30th of a second) is sent in one shot. All HDTVs handle progressive scan. They have to because it's part of the HDTV spec. Also, you need component inputs for progressive scan. If all you have is S-Video, you're not getting progressive scan. Apart from the more solid picture, component video gives you DRASTICALLY better color and detail. Is there such a thing as 480i? Yes. HDTVs have to handle that also. 480i isn't progressive scan, it's the interlaced version of the low-end of HDTV. HDTV formats are: 480i 480p 720p 1080i The PS2 and GC support 480i. Most recent GC games support 480p. Very few PS2 games support 480p. The Xbox supports ALL formats. Whether the games take advantage of it is a different story. For a list of ALL games and what they support, click here: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/sh...threadid=100055 Here's a good link showing the differences between them: http://www.iqeye.com/mkt/progressive.htm Mike wow thanks alot for that info. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 thanks starman. And what do you hold to set up progressive on xbox? You need to use the Xbox HDTV pack ($20 with component outputs), and once that's plugged in, the options for turning on different HDTV modes will become available in the dashboard. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.will Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 I get this question alot at best buy, where I work. Without diving into details, progressive scan reads through the image output multiple times to gives a clearer more accurate screen image. sw33t u work at bestbuy? i was interested in working there when i get older :) do u get any good discounts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boffa Jones Veteran Posted November 30, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 30, 2003 perfect, i bought the component video awhile ago and that made it look alot nicer just by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted November 30, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 30, 2003 thanks for the explanation man. best buy gets a pretty good employee discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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