Keldyn Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 So if he said backup rather than copy would that be ok? There are plenty of sources online that cover the methods involved for backing up game cd's. Posting instructions here at neowin will not be permitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger.Girl Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 he didnt ask how he could go over to hollywood video and rent and rip a game nor did he ask how to download games off bittorrent what he did ask was how to make an copy of a game he owns and that is protected under section 117 of the copyright act Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 And in order to copy the game and get it to work, he has to break the DMCA. I have over 1200 audio CDs, 50 games, and 800 DVDs. None of them have scratches on them. Simple care should be enough. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drov Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 I am surprise this thread aint locked yet :| Yeah..hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooPackShaker Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 BACKUPS (of software you own obviously) ARE LEGAL! Everyone on neowin is so anal about this kind of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoyablue Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 You all always assume the person is bad. But that begs the question, simply because he is wondering how to copy the game for his own purposes, does not warrant attacks against him for "advocating warez". If you have nothing but negative comments, don't post. If you have reason to believe that the poster is purporting warez, contact a mod. There is not enough warrancy whithin the threads of the poster to accuse him of being a warez advocate, so stop hammering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty.Metal Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 Gamecube and ps2, how are you going to store the games? no HD so your out of luck there. I have a xbox (modded) with a 80gb, wasent that hard to do, i added a switch to turn the modchip on and off so i can play xbox live. In other words there is almost no way to backup/put games on your harddrive without moding it. http://www.xbox-scene.com/ is the place to go for xbox mod type stuff. backing up your stuff is LEGAL if i have 20 copyed cds of photoshop im my room... and i have the original... thats legal.. but if i start handing them out to people that illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boffa Jones Veteran Posted November 30, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 30, 2003 THe reason the first bunch of people called him warez kiddy is bewcause he isn't known. I have seen a billion other peopel ask more or less the same question and everyone was all helpful. And if you look in the fine text in hte xbox manual it is illigal to mod your xbox in anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSammyx Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 i think that every one is just bored... :sleep: -Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.will Posted December 1, 2003 Author Share Posted December 1, 2003 And in order to copy the game and get it to work, he has to break the DMCA.I have over 1200 audio CDs, 50 games, and 800 DVDs. None of them have scratches on them. Simple care should be enough. Mike Will I have parents living at two different houses and if I can make it easier to take games from house to house, that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt74441 Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 There is such a thing as fair use when it comes to copying games. I know that when I spend $80 on a game, I don't want anything to happen to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Will I have parents living at two different houses and if I can make it easier to take games from house to house, that would be great. And I bring my CDs to and from the car and work on a regular basis. Your point? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Chipping consoles is not illegal, copying for personal use is not illegal. To the best of my understanding this is illegal in the US as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 PS2: You can copy games but it requires a modchip XBOX: You can copy games but I think only to a DVD-RW or CD-RW and you need a modchip Gamecube: There is no way....yet That's all I know and I won't point to any sites (the best one has been posted) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkee Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 if one is unable to backup gamecube games, i find it odd that i have seen them online for illegal download, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt74441 Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 if one is unable to backup gamecube games, i find it odd that i have seen them online for illegal download, don't you? Apparently you can use those mini-CDs to pirate games on a Gamecube. I saw tutorial a few days ago, I'll see if I can find it. But can't you just carefully cut a DVD down in size, how hard could it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 I don't see how you could use a mini cd or a DVD to copy a gamecube game. the GC cds are a diffrent format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 Yeah I haven't heard too much on the Gamecube scene yet. Sorry if my information was 'wrong'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.will Posted December 5, 2003 Author Share Posted December 5, 2003 You all always assume the person is bad. But that begs the question, simply because he is wondering how to copy the game for his own purposes, does not warrant attacks against him for "advocating warez". If you have nothing but negative comments, don't post. If you have reason to believe that the poster is purporting warez, contact a mod. There is not enough warrancy whithin the threads of the poster to accuse him of being a warez advocate, so stop hammering. omg thanks for backing me up, d00d (or d00dette) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.will Posted December 5, 2003 Author Share Posted December 5, 2003 And I bring my CDs to and from the car and work on a regular basis.Your point? Mike sorry! my point is just to make life a little simpler. things are tough enough as they are and i dont want to worry about scratching up a $50 xbox game carrying it from house to house when i could just know its 1's and 0's are on the xbox harddrive ##EDIT## sorry for the two posts, i just dont know how to quote 2 ppl in the same post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Chipping consoles is not illegal, copying for personal use is not illegal.Some retailers even chip them for you, just like some retailers make your DVD player region free. This is in my country of course, so everyone has to follow the rules that apply in their own country. But talking about it cannot be illegal as long as Neowin is an international community. So lay off guys, you just complain because you can. It's not like anyone believes you never do it yourselves... :rolleyes: Wrong, if you read your manuals of your consoles, (not sure about gamecube) but they say its illegal to modify the design/workings of the console, so basically you leased it from sony/microsoft, Copying games for personal use IS illegal, i suggest you go read up about it, the argument that you want to keep the original in nice/clean condition doesnt hold water anymore, that only applied to Floppy Disks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Apparently you can use those mini-CDs to pirate games on a Gamecube. I saw tutorial a few days ago, I'll see if I can find it. But can't you just carefully cut a DVD down in size, how hard could it be? Wrong, you need the Broadband Adapter and a certain peice of software, then you can stream the games from the pc to the gamecube *says no more* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxious Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 "Copying games for personal use IS illegal, i suggest you go read up about it, the argument that you want to keep the original in nice/clean condition doesnt hold water anymore, that only applied to Floppy Disks. " wrong! have you used a cd lately :p they get scratched so easily its not funny. i once had to buy a game again and ever since i've made backups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 "Copying games for personal use IS illegal, i suggest you go read up about it, the argument that you want to keep the original in nice/clean condition doesnt hold water anymore, that only applied to Floppy Disks. "wrong! have you used a cd lately :p they get scratched so easily its not funny. i once had to buy a game again and ever since i've made backups. Whether or not you scratch your disks doesn't invalidate the law. Depending on your country's laws doesn't change the agreement you enter into by buying the game, which usually states that you may NOT copy the game for any purpose. Take better care of your stuff, I've NEVER lost a game or CD or DVD or Laserdisc because I was sloppy with their care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerox Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Wrong, if you read your manuals of your consoles, (not sure about gamecube) but they say its illegal to modify the design/workings of the console, so basically you leased it from sony/microsoft,Copying games for personal use IS illegal, i suggest you go read up about it, the argument that you want to keep the original in nice/clean condition doesnt hold water anymore, that only applied to Floppy Disks. To the best of my understanding this is illegal in the US as well. Just to make one thing clear: I was talking about the laws in Norway. What I said is correct. And I didn't discuss what the laws are in other countries. So to those who felt the need to inform me that it is illegal in their country, I already knew that, read my post once more. will1394 doesn't say what his location is. If it is Norway (or a similar country), he wouldn't be doing anything illegal. He never said anything that suggested warez. He was not planning on sharing any of these copies. The fact that he could doesn't incriminate him. In Norway, the law that regulates copying/recording movies and music has not changed since we only had VHS and cassette tapes. It is legal for me to "record" (by any method) the contents af any media (that I physically own, or that is made publicly available by playing/streaming) to another media for personal use. And regarding modding/chipping, Norwegian laws doesn't regulate this at all. If you own it, you can mess with it as much as you want. And Norwegian courts will not rule against an individual who brakes the "agreement" printed on a console or DVD player unless it is supported by the official laws and regulations. In USA, if you are the maker of say a DVD player, and you print an "agreement" and put it in the box, this "agreement" is suddenly "the law" and you can sue any individual that brakes the "agreement". So in theory, any company can make whatever idiot "agreement" that they can enforce on the users. Not in Norway. We follow the official laws that are made. But back to will1394 whose thread was completely torched by yet another flame war on piracy... Obviously, you won't get any help here. I agree that discussing game copying is clearly a grey zone, and even though I don't think it would get Neowin in trouble, it's better to move these discussions to other forums. To the guys who called him a "warez kiddy"... If the punishment for breaking the DMCA was public whipping in the town square, you would be happy to attend, right? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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