nukenorman Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Sadly today another school shooting this morning the location in New Mexico. Do you think School schootings is the new normal in America? The last few years it seems like their is one every month if not every other week. I remember growing up in this stuff was very very rare. Perhaps several years would go by before you head of a school shooting now its literally at LEAST one every month.Do you guys think this trend will continue in America? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nukenorman Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Their will be a day in America where most schools will have big fences and gates. They will look like prisons with medal detectors before you can enter the campus. Sorta like going to an airport or to a prison and you will have to put your medla items like binders in a bin to go thru the scanner. Most bullies of my time would bully with words or the occasional fight but never taking out guns.I am glad I was a child of the 80s and 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riahc3 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Hello, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States#2010s Its something massive and has to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riahc3 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Hello, Most bullies of my time would bully with words or the occasional fight but never taking out guns.Usually the bully themselves dont use the guns. Its the ones that are bullied. Either way, ultimately, its the person who does it that is mentally unstable. psmoked 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nukenorman Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Hello, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States#2010s Its something massive and has to stop. Interesting wiki link thanks for sharing. It looks like the shooting list from the 2010s is bigger than the list for the whole 90s and its only 4 years into the 2010s!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torolol Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 There also those who suspect that those shootings might have something to do with psychiatrics drugs: http://www.cchrint.org/school-shooters/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. S. Veteran Posted January 16, 2014 Veteran Share Posted January 16, 2014 Their will be a day in America where most schools will have big fences and gates. They will look like prisons with medal detectors before you can enter the campus. Sorta like going to an airport or to a prison and you will have to put your medla items like binders in a bin to go thru the scanner. Most bullies of my time would bully with words or the occasional fight but never taking out guns. I am glad I was a child of the 80s and 90s. Like this? 123456789A 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted January 16, 2014 Veteran Share Posted January 16, 2014 despite what the news wants you to think, this is NOT something new... when I was ins school in the late 80's and 90's there was a lot of school shootings, we just didn't turn them into big political events afterwards like we do now and we didn't have 24hr news access in the early days to spread the news... that didn't really spread until columbine with school shootings... and with the internet now we hear about them a lot faster, and they get out further quicker for big news companies to jump on... in the old days they happened, local news covered it but it took a while before it got to the national level, and by then they didn't care anymore Tews, Skin, psmoked and 3 others 6 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiver Veteran Posted January 16, 2014 Veteran Share Posted January 16, 2014 I don't think anything, no matter how frequent it may happen, should ever be considered that normal and that we should just accept it as part of life. To be honest, I hate the word 'normal' too, it kind of implys a standard and anything outside that standard is wrong. Who comes up with what is 'normal'!? Isn't this how things like racisim is started, a majority looking at a minority and deeming they aren't normal because they aren't like them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riahc3 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Hello, despite what the news wants you to think, this is NOT something new... when I was ins school in the late 80's and 90's there was a lot of school shootingsThat is completely false. First, look at the wikipedia page I put. Second, dont mistake school shooting with gang shootings. They are COMPLETELY different. While I was growing up, most shootings that happened were gang related. Happened at schools, streets, parks, etc. stevember 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Kyle Subscriber¹ Posted January 16, 2014 Subscriber¹ Share Posted January 16, 2014 If it continues to shock and appall people it isn't considered normal. These shootings are the start to a call to action for reevaluation and massive rehaul of the American education system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameboy1977 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 this school shooting in the usa are getting worsen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trag3dy Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 this school shooting in the usa are getting worsen. If only two people being injured both of which are still alive two days after the shooting is "worse" then I hope school shootings continue to get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Method Man Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 First, look at the wikipedia page I put. Wikipedia is hardly a source. As neufuse said they didn't used to get covered nationally the way they do now so Wikipedia's statistics are not reliable for gathering data. psmoked 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiver Veteran Posted January 16, 2014 Veteran Share Posted January 16, 2014 Hello, That is completely false. First, look at the wikipedia page I put. Second, dont mistake school shooting with gang shootings. They are COMPLETELY different. While I was growing up, most shootings that happened were gang related. Happened at schools, streets, parks, etc. I would have to ask what is the source of the wiki's information? If this is based on News reports which I have a high suspicion it is, then this just subscribes to the idea that we only hear about it more because the media report on it more. I'm not saying it's wrong, but for all we know there could be a lot more happening that we know about for a lot longer. Let's face it, the vast majority of things like this are only brought to our attention through the media. So the author would have to access to police records for every station, in every town, city and state etc to be able to compile an accurate list, something I highly doubt they have they have the access to never mind the time it would take to actually find such incidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 despite what the news wants you to think, this is NOT something new... when I was ins school in the late 80's and 90's there was a lot of school shootings, we just didn't turn them into big political events afterwards like we do now and we didn't have 24hr news access in the early days to spread the news... that didn't really spread until columbine with school shootings... and with the internet now we hear about them a lot faster, and they get out further quicker for big news companies to jump on... in the old days they happened, local news covered it but it took a while before it got to the national level, and by then they didn't care anymore Thank you. I remember a huge fight was broken up when I was in high school in 1995...when the crowd dispersed, there was a gun and a knife discovered. Two schools around here had shooting deaths as well back then. This is nothing new. What is new, as you said, is the ability to disseminate info quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted January 16, 2014 Veteran Share Posted January 16, 2014 Hello, That is completely false. First, look at the wikipedia page I put. Second, dont mistake school shooting with gang shootings. They are COMPLETELY different. While I was growing up, most shootings that happened were gang related. Happened at schools, streets, parks, etc. hold on, first of all a school shooting that happened where I went to school isn't even on that list, 1 person died... so don't trust Wikipedia... and gang shootings, don't try to turn something that happened in a school with a gun into something it's not... if it happens in school it's still a school shooting... +Raze 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason S. Global Moderator Posted January 16, 2014 Global Moderator Share Posted January 16, 2014 as others are pointing out, gun violence in schools is nothing new. Even when Columbine happened when i was in school, i didnt get scared. i just went to school like the rest of people. that being said, i was probably too young to comprehend what had just happened. Yes, that wiki list is huge and scary, but this is an absolutely gigantic country. This is a list of high schools only in the state of Ohio. it's huge. Now consider how many elementary, middle, private, and colleges there are in ohio too. Now, that's only 1 state out of 50. Lord Method Man, psmoked, adrynalyne and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rev Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Yeah, this is definitely not new... This was happening when I was a kid too (90s)... I remember Columbine, it was very tragic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlintyV Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Absolutely becoming normal. Just a quick glance on Wikipedia and you can see they're a regular occurrence. Tigurinn 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan R. Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 despite what the news wants you to think, this is NOT something new... when I was ins school in the late 80's and 90's there was a lot of school shootings, we just didn't turn them into big political events afterwards like we do now and we didn't have 24hr news access in the early days to spread the news... that didn't really spread until columbine with school shootings... and with the internet now we hear about them a lot faster, and they get out further quicker for big news companies to jump on... in the old days they happened, local news covered it but it took a while before it got to the national level, and by then they didn't care anymore Also consider that news today is not what news was then. Today, you aren't reporting news unless you have ten analysts and a few congressmen chime in taking up 1000 times more airtime. Also consider that the population in the US is 100 million more now than it was in 1970. But I also won't deny there is a rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perochan Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 America needs to have TOUGHER laws like in Singapore. People hardly commit crimes in Singapore because the consequence is very tough depending on what type of crime. If you litter on the street, they will beat the ###### out of you and possess any illegal drug it is death penalty. America school system needs to learn from Asian country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I have a feeling most of these are copycat acts. Someone's fed up with whatever, and thanks to instant access to worldwide news, they'll go out "with a blaze of glory", with their picture posted all over the place. Many Americans are quick to blame this or that, but no one wants to take the time to get to the bottom of the issue. The issue isn't guns - Americans have always had access to them, and for millions, they've been a rite of passage for years, getting one from their parents when they were in their preteens or early teens. The issues are mental health, and bullying - which I would also expect to be on the rise thanks to social media. +Raze and Lord Method Man 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan R. Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 America needs to have TOUGHER laws like in Singapore. People hardly commit crimes in Singapore because the consequence is very tough depending on what type of crime. If you litter on the street, they will beat the **** out of you and possess any illegal drug it is death penalty. America school system needs to learn from Asian country. Uh... no. psmoked 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakem1 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Americans just don't value life very highly and there's not much that can be done about it. They'll defend the rights of foetuses but the caring ends the minute you're born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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