Jarrichvdv Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Development for Windows 9 has barely started. How can you expect it to release this year >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Anarkii Subscriber² Posted January 20, 2014 Subscriber² Share Posted January 20, 2014 Development for Windows 9 has barely started. How can you expect it to release this year >.< I would think that development would of started long ago for Windows 9. Just like the XB1, dev started on that not long after the 360 came out, so why would it be any different with Windows? Im sure they would would have about 20 or so prototype versions of Windows running on dev machines at Richmond, hence the weekly builds that get leaked come beta. As long as they fix the mess that is the current version, id be happy with 9 when its out. In the interim, lets just hope 8.2 (8.1 update 1 sounds just stupid) fixes customers complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrichvdv Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I would think that development would of started long ago for Windows 9. Just like the XB1, dev started on that not long after the 360 came out, so why would it be any different with Windows? Im sure they would would have about 20 or so prototype versions of Windows running on dev machines at Richmond, hence the weekly builds that get leaked come beta. As long as they fix the mess that is the current version, id be happy with 9 when its out. In the interim, lets just hope 8.2 (8.1 update 1 sounds just stupid) fixes customers complaints. That's completely false. It has been confirmed recently they haven't yet started development on Windows 9/haven't been developing it for long. And dude, Xbox One runs (partially) on the WIndows 8 kernel and a stripped version of Hyper-V (the hypervisor). Xbox 360 launched when XP when 'hot'. NO. They did not start Xbox One development close after the launch of 360. It should not have been possible. All the technology in the Xbox One did not exist back then or was completely unthinkable at the time. Common sense if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver182 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I guess you also don't think that you need to replace your breakpads, it's just a choice if you want to avoid crashing into things. Yeah that?s totally the same thing, I updated through the windows store, my computer works perfectlly fine,I didn?t need a reinstall...so in conclusion: no, a full reinstall it?s not mandatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I would think that development would of started long ago for Windows 9. Just like the XB1, dev started on that not long after the 360 came out, so why would it be any different with Windows? Im sure they would would have about 20 or so prototype versions of Windows running on dev machines at Richmond, hence the weekly builds that get leaked come beta. As long as they fix the mess that is the current version, id be happy with 9 when its out. In the interim, lets just hope 8.2 (8.1 update 1 sounds just stupid) fixes customers complaints. Development? No. Planning? Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Anarkii Subscriber² Posted January 21, 2014 Subscriber² Share Posted January 21, 2014 Development? No. Planning? Maybe. Source for saying no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devn00b Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Source for saying no? Microsoft began work in earnest on the Xbox One in late 2010, the company explained in a new video posted to theXbox Wire. "We started back in 2010; late 2010. And got the team together and really had fun," Sr. Principal Creative Director at Xbox Carl Ledbetter said. "At the beginning, we created a number of concepts and we started really refining those ideas. source: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-development-began-in-late-2010/1100-6409070/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Anarkii Subscriber² Posted January 21, 2014 Subscriber² Share Posted January 21, 2014 source: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-development-began-in-late-2010/1100-6409070/ So thats exactly what I said. 'Work begain back in 2010'. In case you havent noticed, its now 2014. Telling me that work hasnt began already on Windows 9 and hasnt been for the last year or so at least is just stupid and naive. Work on Windows 9 would of started back in 2011, and im more than willing to bet that there would be about 10 different versions of 9 floating around Richmond, each having different things enabled/disabled, and features added and removed. "Sr. Principal Creative Director at Xbox Carl Ledbetter said. "At the beginning, we created a number of concepts and we started really refining those ideas." Why? to gauge interest in what version to move forward with when they hit Alpha. Thats what I was saying all along :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcfan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 So thats exactly what I said. 'Work begain back in 2010'. In case you havent noticed, its now 2014. Telling me that work hasnt began already on Windows 9 and hasnt been for the last year or so at least is just stupid and naive. Work on Windows 9 would of started back in 2011, and im more than willing to bet that there would be about 10 different versions of 9 floating around Richmond, each having different things enabled/disabled, and features added and removed. "Sr. Principal Creative Director at Xbox Carl Ledbetter said. "At the beginning, we created a number of concepts and we started really refining those ideas."[/size] Why? to gauge interest in what version to move forward with when they hit Alpha. Thats what I was saying all along :) its Redmond, not Richmond :) take this how you want it, but on the latest WW podcast, mary jo foley says they've only been doing planning for windows 9, but development hasnt start yet. +Anarkii 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Source for saying no? Microsoft. They just shipped Win8.1, and have been working toward an update for that OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre S. Veteran Posted January 21, 2014 Veteran Share Posted January 21, 2014 Source for saying no? Microsoft. They just shipped Win8.1, and have been working toward an update for that OS. Why should Microsoft work on a single version at a time? They can be mainly testing and bug-fixing the next update while early in production of the next major release. "Development" is not a single activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Anarkii Subscriber² Posted January 21, 2014 Subscriber² Share Posted January 21, 2014 Source for saying no? Microsoft. They just shipped Win8.1, and have been working toward an update for that OS. ... *facedesk* That's not a source. A source is a verified web link with verified and quotable information. Please if you are going to say 'no', least have some kind of source to back up what you say. Also, Windows 9 could RTM in October 2014 IF M$ decide to put its efforts into 9, and forgetting about the rumoured Windows 8.1 update 1 - which I will add doesnt make any sense why they would call it that anyway. It will either be a small incremental update like bug fixes and small under the hood stuff (aka a service pack) like 8.1 was, or a full fleged update with the start menu back and a general fixed UI and call it 9. My bet is on the latter, hence development would of began when 8 RTM'd. Why should Microsoft work on a single version at a time? They can be mainly testing and bug-fixing the next update while early in production of the next major release. "Development" is not a single activity. Exactly right. Early in game development there is literally hundreds of 'builds' with different features and things added. Play-testing to see which of those builds are actually playable, gets shifted to the Alpha stage where the team will come together to work on the final project. The same will definitely be happening internally at Redmond too with Windows 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+xWhiplash Subscriber² Posted January 21, 2014 Subscriber² Share Posted January 21, 2014 I agree. If Windows 9 is supposed to come out in 2015, they should have started it by now. Or it will be rushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Why should Microsoft work on a single version at a time? They can be mainly testing and bug-fixing the next update while early in production of the next major release. "Development" is not a single activity. ... *facedesk* That's not a source. A source is a verified web link with verified and quotable information. Please if you are going to say 'no', least have some kind of source to back up what you say. Also, Windows 9 could RTM in October 2014 IF MS decide to put its efforts into 9, and forgetting about the rumoured Windows 8.1 update 1 - which I will add doesnt make any sense why they would call it that anyway. It will either be a small incremental update like bug fixes and small under the hood stuff (aka a service pack) like 8.1 was, or a full fleged update with the start menu back and a general fixed UI and call it 9. My bet is on the latter, hence development would of began when 8 RTM'd. Exactly right. Early in game development there is literally hundreds of 'builds' with different features and things added. Play-testing to see which of those builds are actually playable, gets shifted to the Alpha stage where the team will come together to work on the final project. The same will definitely be happening internally at Redmond too with Windows 9. Jesus. Why do you think I said above: "Planning? Maybe."? For my own health? There is absolutely no way that they have started development now, not when "Windows 9" is just a rumor, spread by none other than P.T. I doubt they even have a feature set locked down. Development doesn't just start overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2xSilverKnight Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Jesus. Why do you think I said above: "Planning? Maybe."? For my own health? There is absolutely no way that they have started development now, not when "Windows 9" is just a rumor, spread by none other than P.T. I doubt they even have a feature set locked down. Development doesn't just start overnight. You clearly have no clue how development works. It's not just one team. And everything is planned well in advanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+virtorio MVC Posted January 21, 2014 MVC Share Posted January 21, 2014 Jesus. Why do you think I said above: "Planning? Maybe."? For my own health? There is absolutely no way that they have started development now, not when "Windows 9" is just a rumor, spread by none other than P.T. I doubt they even have a feature set locked down. Development doesn't just start overnight. This has been your Daily Conjecture Minute, brought to you by Dot Matrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 And everything is planned well in advanced. Hello? Is this thing on? That's what I just said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+virtorio MVC Posted January 21, 2014 MVC Share Posted January 21, 2014 Hello? Is this thing on? That's what I just said. No it's not, he said planning happens way in advance. You're saying that maybe they've started planning (you -> "Planning? Maybe.".) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted January 21, 2014 Global Moderator Share Posted January 21, 2014 If they show something at Build then we'll know they started nut if all they do is talk about what they're going to do then I think it's a safe bet that they haven't started long like some think. That would also mean that a 2015 date is more likely than 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LambdaLambdaLambdaFn Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 There is absolutely no way that they have started development now, not when "Windows 9" is just a rumor, spread by none other than P.T. I doubt they even have a feature set locked down. Development doesn't just start overnight. I have my doubts that Microsoft released Windows 8.1 and said "There! We did it!" then threw a pizza party and stopped developing their flagship product. Got a sneaking feeling this has been in the pipeline more than a couple weeks. Rickkins and BajiRav 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delete Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 You clearly have no clue how development works. You are correct. Example: I expect overly complicated apps like Visual Studio to eventually follow this path. An app that's pretty much automated to develop code, just add a few controls, select a few options, and you're done. The app does all the coding itself in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 There is absolutely no way that they have started development now, not when "Windows 9" is just a rumor, spread by none other than P.T. I doubt they even have a feature set locked down. Development doesn't just start overnight.Uh...I am currently working on 2 releases, both shipping within next 18months. There is "planning" going on that might make some of my work pushed out or pulled in. "Planning" and "developing" is always happening. They now need to prioritize fixes and new features to hit certain milestones (timeframe, capacity blah blah). Paul Thurrot's idea that people are waiting and seating on their hands is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted January 24, 2014 Global Moderator Share Posted January 24, 2014 Timetables aside the new info says we'll be getting update 1 March, and as we've seen they're adding new features with it. This makes me believe we'll see a 2nd update late in the year with yet more changes till we get Windows 9 next year. The talk now is that 9 isn't going to be as big of an update as the name would suggest. This only adds to my thinking that there will be a update 2 in the fall/winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macoman Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Windows 9, the new Windows 7... :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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