MorganX Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 People are willing to pay when they perceive value. Keep beefing up the core apps and their functionality, a Zune 8.0 wouldn't hurt, and you may not have to reduce the price so much. What happens when they do and sales don't go through the roof? I wouldn't do anything until they see where the XP users go. Most likely to 7 and not 8.' What's the reason that consumers can understand, to go with Windows 8 instead of 7? What about Enterprises? Why go with 8 right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGeorge Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Agreed. I'd pay $40 but not what they're asking now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollibee Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Bringing back the "Family Pack" upgrade would be nice too. Being able to upgrade up to 3 PCs to Windows 7 was nice and bringing it back with Windows 8.1 will be a hell lot nicer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neowinuser1991 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 It should come back. However I already upgraded the 6 PC's while the option was available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I think they need to bring back the Windows 7 family pack tbh. Luc2k, chaos mage and HoochieMamma 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbeen Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 $15 if you have a legit XP/Vista/7 key and $40 if you don't. That seems fair to me. Considering their current pricing model It'd just give them more customers at the same bottom line so there's little incentive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 At the rate of adoption we currently see, I wonder if Windows 8.1, even FREE, would be installed more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted March 1, 2014 Supervisor Share Posted March 1, 2014 For your average consumer I would say that the damage is done. They won't upgrade their current OS without buying a new computer, so it doesn't matter if you charge $15 or $115. They have heard the negative words and think to stay away from Windows 8. NOTE that in this case I am talking about your average, non-tech Joe. Most of them don't upgrade to a new OS without a new computer anyway. For the more tech-savvy, $15 or $40 won't matter too much to them. They will look at the OS and judge for themselves whether it is worth it or not. I think I would be in this category, and for me it doesn't matter whether you offer it for $15, $40, or even for free. If I were using Windows at home I would have little reason to upgrade the OS without getting third-party tools involved. For businesses, price goes out the window...s. :p If it supports their applications then it is worth considering for the security and updates. If it means they need to change all their systems, they won't necessarily. To answer your vote on a personal side, I think they should bring back the upgrade cost (in this case I'm going with the idea that it doesn't matter whether you are on Windows XP currently or Windows 7) and reduce it to $15 to increase the market share of Windows 8. For some stupid reason I only just learned over the weekend that OS X Mavericks was a free upgrade for anyone on Snow Leopard onwards. I had assumed that it was going to be the same as getting Lion or Mountain Lion, it would cost to upgrade, and so my machine is still on Snow Leopard. But because it is free, I'm willing to give it a go despite the negativity that I have heard about it. Microsoft could benefit from having a similar mentality if they really care about getting people up to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 For your average consumer I would say that the damage is done. They won't upgrade their current OS without buying a new computer, so it doesn't matter if you charge $15 or $115. They have heard the negative words and think to stay away from Windows 8. NOTE that in this case I am talking about your average, non-tech Joe. Most of them don't upgrade to a new OS without a new computer anyway. For the more tech-savvy, $15 or $40 won't matter too much to them. They will look at the OS and judge for themselves whether it is worth it or not. I think I would be in this category, and for me it doesn't matter whether you offer it for $15, $40, or even for free. If I were using Windows at home I would have little reason to upgrade the OS without getting third-party tools involved. For businesses, price goes out the window...s. :p If it supports their applications then it is worth considering for the security and updates. If it means they need to change all their systems, they won't necessarily. To answer your vote on a personal side, I think they should bring back the upgrade cost (in this case I'm going with the idea that it doesn't matter whether you are on Windows XP currently or Windows 7) and reduce it to $15 to increase the market share of Windows 8. For some stupid reason I only just learned over the weekend that OS X Mavericks was a free upgrade for anyone on Snow Leopard onwards. I had assumed that it was going to be the same as getting Lion or Mountain Lion, it would cost to upgrade, and so my machine is still on Snow Leopard. But because it is free, I'm willing to give it a go despite the negativity that I have heard about it. Microsoft could benefit from having a similar mentality if they really care about getting people up to date. It's weird that you are just hearing about it, when I (of all folks) pointed that out in the Apple OS forum here before Christmas. As far as the damage being done, a lot of FUD is *still* being spread about Windows 8/8.1 - if folks are still listening to it, they won't upgrade at any price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coth Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 MS should also start applying local pricing policies. In developing and developed world incomes are significantly lower, but MS applies same prices all over the world. With incomes in Russia and China, for example, 4 to 10 times, depending on region, less than developed world, prices become 4 to 10 times higher. And it's 4 times in Shanghai and Moscow. Average is 5-6 times. So $40 for a copy would be like $200, not talking about current prices. I'm on Windows 7 and not planning if upgrade as I'm just lazy of looking for all that activation stuff. I might would upgrade, if it would cost $8-10. But still they should do like Apple and Google done. OS should be free. MS should make money from app markets. And they should do desktop market as well, like MacOS X has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted March 1, 2014 Supervisor Share Posted March 1, 2014 It's weird that you are just hearing about it, when I (of all folks) pointed that out in the Apple OS forum here before Christmas. As far as the damage being done, a lot of FUD is *still* being spread about Windows 8/8.1 - if folks are still listening to it, they won't upgrade at any price. As I said, I made an assumption based on previous upgrades and didn't read in to it much further. Snow Leopard does what I want, it was only the dropping of support that made me read in to it a bit more. FUD is powerful stuff. It's a blessing and a curse that anyone can write anything online, and it's up to people to take the time to check it out for themselves. I made this mistake with Mavericks, and I'm in the process of rectifying my mistake. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos mage Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 For your average consumer I would say that the damage is done. They won't upgrade their current OS without buying a new computer, so it doesn't matter if you charge $15 or $115. They have heard the negative words and think to stay away from Windows 8. NOTE that in this case I am talking about your average, non-tech Joe. Most of them don't upgrade to a new OS without a new computer anyway. I just had a techie friend hate on 8 because of a data loss scenario I've had with previous OSes but he obviously hadn't. It's not just the non tech peoples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis W. Veteran Posted March 1, 2014 Veteran Share Posted March 1, 2014 That would do nothing. Windows XP users are more limited by the fact that they are using old hardware that isn't capable of running any Windows NT 6.x OS. Depends on what hardware. I have a 2002 Pentium 4 Northwood CPU clocked at 2 GHz, which came with XP RTM out of the box, and it can run Windows 7 (with Aero given a capable AGP card). Given it's single core, any small task such as checking Windows Updates brings the system to a crawl if you multitask. But it's mildly bearable and at least Windows Media Center runs okay. Since the CPU lacks hardware NX it cannot run Windows 8.x (that would be Prescott P4s and up). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 At the rate of adoption we currently see, I wonder if Windows 8.1, even FREE, would be installed more.... Same here - folks are spreading FUD for whatever reason. Quite frankly, I wish it would cease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted March 1, 2014 Supervisor Share Posted March 1, 2014 I just had a techie friend hate on 8 because of a data loss scenario I've had with previous OSes but he obviously hadn't. It's not just the non tech peoples.As I said in my following post, FUD is a powerful thing. Even technicians can fall in to the issue of having a problem with one OS that they didn't have with another, and so they say, "why bother?" I said it a couple of times when we moved the company from XP to 7, but with a bit of research I was able to find out what happened and why, and we didn't have too many problems after. Would my mum do the same thing? Doubtful. She would enter issues with a new OS and then ask that she be switched back to something she knows. This is an example, she would probably phone me to troubleshoot an issue. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 As I said, I made an assumption based on previous upgrades and didn't read in to it much further. Snow Leopard does what I want, it was only the dropping of support that made me read in to it a bit more. FUD is powerful stuff. It's a blessing and a curse that anyone can write anything online, and it's up to people to take the time to check it out for themselves. I made this mistake with Mavericks, and I'm in the process of rectifying my mistake. ;) Preaching to the choir, Nick. I've even told folks - in most of my posts - to investigate it for themselves and make up their OWN minds - it's not like evaluation versions of even Windows 8.1 are THAT hard to find. (I cerainly have no need to post linkage - it's at the top of this very forum.) Nick H. 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadwen Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Honestly I'd get a copy if it were 15$ but still not run it on my main system. (I've ran\test all the preview releases and have a Test box at work but the only computer I have personally running 8(8.1) full time is a Asus t100.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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