IntegralDerivative Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Where maybe itll be like.. A website will have a catalog of some low and mid range laptops and pcs with 7 or 8 in them. then the user chooses one then thwey will buy" it It is just free but... Laptop Price: $900 Payment plan: Free for first 6 months then pay $50 a month for 18 months or $5 for 180 months. That way, even those who normally cant afford new pc can just apply for something like this. They will use IP or force user to make account to track if theyre just abusing the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiver Veteran Posted April 8, 2014 Veteran Share Posted April 8, 2014 I'm not entirely sure I understand the point in it. I get that XP has been a popular OS for many years, but in the end, all software has a shelf life and XP has came and gone multiple times, finanically it just doesn't make sense to keep it alive. Additionally, its not like everyone's XP machine is going to suddenly burst into flames, if a PC/laptop for a home user is working fine then no-one needs to replace it because MS stop supporting it. Romero and Aergan 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimeMaster Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Aren't Microsoft providing XP users with an $100 discount, if you trade-in older hardware with XP installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted April 8, 2014 Supervisor Share Posted April 8, 2014 Hypothetically I guess they could, but it makes no sense for them to make such an offer. For one, they don't sell computers - well, the Surface, but that's another matter - so they wouldn't really care about creating such a program. Secondly, they don't care if people want to stay with Windows XP. Stopping support isn't so much about trying to get people to move on, it's more about the cost of keeping a team to work on fixes for an OS that's over 10 years old. As they have now stopped support the team can be moved in to a different area, so they don't mind if you don't move on, they're just letting you know that you could have issues that they will no longer support. I may be wrong with the above information, but that's the way I understand the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntegralDerivative Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 Aren't Microsoft providing XP users with an $100 discount, if you trade-in older hardware with XP installed? Yeh, but there are the really poor folks who really cant afford. A $900 PC would be $800, but is still considered expensive by some. So the idea i posted is better since they can choose to pay $50/month for a year and a half or $5/month for 15 yrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironman273 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Here you go: http://www.gainsaver.com/Catalog/List.aspx?CCode=2126^PC+Systems&CCode=2302^Notebook+Computers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiver Veteran Posted April 8, 2014 Veteran Share Posted April 8, 2014 I'm pretty sure there will be plenty stores offering finance plans on PC's etc but as both me and Nick have pointed out. Nothing is stopping them from continueing to run on XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DConnell Member Posted April 8, 2014 Member Share Posted April 8, 2014 Yeh, but there are the really poor folks who really cant afford. A $900 PC would be $800, but is still considered expensive by some. So the idea i posted is better since they can choose to pay $50/month for a year and a half or $5/month for 15 yrs At least some OEMs already offer financing. When I replaced my tower system last year, I chose to finance through Dell. The minimum payment was only $50, though I chose to pay it off faster. There are options if you choose to look for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Active. Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Yeh, but there are the really poor folks who really cant afford. A $900 PC would be $800, but is still considered expensive by some. So the idea i posted is better since they can choose to pay $50/month for a year and a half or $5/month for 15 yrs If you're too poor to afford and outright pay for a $900 PC , I'm not sure it's a good idea to decide to pay for it via an installment plan, zero interest or not... of course the majority of Windows PCs that get sold are much cheaper in the first place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDboyz Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 $900 PC ? ... Maybe if you cannot afford it, you need to lower your expectation .... This one will come out around $399 or so after the discount, and the hardware isn't bad at all. http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Sony-VAIO-Tap-20-Touchscreen-All-in-One-SVJ20214CYB/productID.257324600 Yeh, but there are the really poor folks who really cant afford. A $900 PC would be $800, but is still considered expensive by some. So the idea i posted is better since they can choose to pay $50/month for a year and a half or $5/month for 15 yrs DConnell and Bryan R. 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Active. Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 $900 PC ? ... Maybe if you cannot afford it, you need to lower your expectation .... This one will come out around $399 or so after the discount, and the hardware isn't bad at all. http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Sony-VAIO-Tap-20-Touchscreen-All-in-One-SVJ20214CYB/productID.257324600 I think the offer is only good for select PCs over $599 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DConnell Member Posted April 8, 2014 Member Share Posted April 8, 2014 If you're too poor to afford and outright pay for a $900 PC , I'm not sure it's a good idea to decide to pay for it via an installment plan, zero interest or not... of course the majority of Windows PCs that get sold are much cheaper in the first place... Very true. My current laptop was only $350. Not top of the line, but it ran Windows 7 well and Windows 8 even better. I could improve performance with some more memory, but as it is the system is adequate. I have my tower for higher-performance stuff. Not everyone needs a top-of-the-line system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted April 8, 2014 Veteran Share Posted April 8, 2014 You do know that you can buy laptops fairly cheaply, sub 300, and you will see some deals with 0% with an in store cc. Here is bb offering 0% on 430 for 18 months. that is roughly $24 a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntegralDerivative Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 You do know that you can buy laptops fairly cheaply, sub 300, and you will see some deals with 0% with an in store cc. Here is bb offering 0% on 430 for 18 months. that is roughly $24 a month. Yeh but its best if the pcs are futurproofed( i.e. will work on the next 2 OSes or so) so that they can have time to save up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romero Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 As they have now stopped support the team can be moved in to a different area Except for the poor chaps who're still stuck making fixes for all those who've paid to extend support. As for the thread topic, I don't see why Microsoft or Bill Gates of all people need to provide special help to all the XP hold-outs. If they want to stick with it, fine, and if they want to move on then that's their financial responsibility as well. DConnell and MikeChipshop 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakjak Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Yeh but its best if the pcs are futurproofed( i.e. will work on the next 2 OSes or so) so that they can have time to save up No computer is future proof. Romero, DConnell and MikeChipshop 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntegralDerivative Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 No computer is future proof. I did say The next 2 OSes or so, so by that time, that person has prolly(found a good job, has a kid who has a good job or has a husband/wife with good job) so thats pretty . :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiver Veteran Posted April 8, 2014 Veteran Share Posted April 8, 2014 Yeh but its best if the pcs are futurproofed( i.e. will work on the next 2 OSes or so) so that they can have time to save up Then surely their current PC's are futureproofed enough to upgrade to Win 7? I'm sorry but this just doesn't add up, no-one is forcing anyone to upgrade and you can get much cheaper PC/laptops for half the price you've mentioned and running win 8. Bryan R., DConnell and Romero 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted April 8, 2014 Supervisor Share Posted April 8, 2014 I did say The next 2 OSes or so, so by that time, that person has prolly(found a good job, has a kid who has a good job or has a husband/wife with good job) so thats pretty . :3"Pretty" isn't a business model to adopt. ;) Likewise, what the manufacturers would probably prefer is that you buy a cheaper laptop now if you need it, then spend the next few years saving up towards a better computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDboyz Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 $499 is still a pretty good price ... I think the offer is only good for select PCs over $599 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted April 8, 2014 MVC Share Posted April 8, 2014 Well they might want to do that to get back into the good graces of users. I know a lot of users that are annoyed at Microsoft and the April 8th XP cut off. :laugh: ... I think they just really loved their XP. So they are annoyed at the XP cut off and also annoyed at what their options are when they go buy new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I'm not entirely sure I understand the point in it. I get that XP has been a popular OS for many years, but in the end, all software has a shelf life and XP has came and gone multiple times, finanically it just doesn't make sense to keep it alive. Additionally, its not like everyone's XP machine is going to suddenly burst into flames, if a PC/laptop for a home user is working fine then no-one needs to replace it because MS stop supporting it. And in the case of all too many XP laptops (such as Mom's Gateway Solo), the innards (primarily the HDD) are what roadblocks it from running a later OS. In the specifc case of the Solo, it has a 40 GB HDD, and installing a larger drive, even an SSD, is no picnic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Active. Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 $499 is still a pretty good price ... no doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted April 8, 2014 Veteran Share Posted April 8, 2014 Yeh but its best if the pcs are futurproofed( i.e. will work on the next 2 OSes or so) so that they can have time to save up lol, ok budget computer that has the ability of being able to have the ability of 2 OS versions. Not going to happen, these machines are throw aways at that price point. Even $1000 computers are still a bit of a throw away. You can't have the best tech at a cheap price. That wouldn't be microsoft's doing, that would be intel or whomever is the hardware manufacturer. Take a look at a apple ipad, they are limited as far as time goes and they are in that same price point of a cheap laptop. A cheap laptop will last you 3-4 years, a good laptop will last you 3-4 years, a top of the line laptop you may see at 5 years. I have a pos d630 that is still kicking around, that was a mid ranged laptop. I also have a netbook from 2010, it is still functioning as a basic computer with a bad battery, it is good enough for light apps. While I wouldn't put windows 8 on it, it OK enough 4 years later. both are about the same speed, so while you may get a low end laptop today it is about the same as a mid range laptop from 2 years ago. 3-4 years is what you should expect out of even the cheapest computer or the best. DConnell 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeChipshop Member Posted April 8, 2014 Member Share Posted April 8, 2014 Could they? Yup. Should they? Nope. It makes no sense from a business point of view. If you can't upgrade because the cost prohibits you, then you can continue to use XP. DConnell 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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