game_over Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I've just switched my Windows PC over to an SSD with a clean install of Windows 8.1. I read somewhere that SSD's need optimising for maximum performance. A quick Google points to several articles - a lot of them appear to be poorly written and seems like guess work with no solid facts or evidence that what the article proposes to do actually has any positive effect, so i'm wondering what optimisation you guys have done to your SSDs? So far i've: - disabled system restore (although i done this on regular HDDs, i think this is a space gain rather than performance anyway) - disabled indexing - wont be storing anything on this drive that i will need indexing, also disabled windows search service - enabled TRIM, whatever that is, using the following command in CMD: fsutil behavior set disabledeletenotify 0 - disabled hibernation - set power management to maximum performance Are any of those pointless? have i missed anything? most of them mention disabling page file, i don't see how this can give a performance gain, thoughts? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notchinese Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Windows should detect that you have an SSD and apply optimal settings for most things. Disabling system restore and hibernation are both just to save space on the SSD. However, in Windows 8+ if you disable hibernation you don't get the hybrid boot feature (not a huge deal on SSDs since they already boot fast). Indexing will most likely be turned off by Windows, as will defrag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Disabling the page file will just give you more space back. I always disable it since I'd rather have the capacity. I've never ever, in the 5 years I'd had SSDs, had any issues with disabling it. Other people will "claim" otherwise, but I've never seen a bit of proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notchinese Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I would not disable the pagefile. I would however set it to a fixed size, and for the love of god don't move it off the ssd and put it on a slow HDD like some people suggest. Aergan 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setnom Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I think it's just that some specific programs require pagefile for something, I don't know what. They might be unstable with pagefile off. I think they are just a minority, and probably old software. My advice is, turn it off and test your machine with the software you use. If they stop working right, you know it's because the pagefile is off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radium Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Regardless of the type of drives you have, enable AHCI in the BIOS/UEFI menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theslam08 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Congrats on the upgrade :). I bet even without any 'optimizations' you notice its like a brand new computer hu...i'm telling ya, SSD is the only thing that should be in these machines now-a-days. Sure add some price to the cost of the machine but still, the SSD's are sooo worth it for ANY computer. A spinning 'disc' is def 20 years ago. Anyway, just wanted to congratulate you on the nice advancement. Now, I use a Samsung 840 Evo. I have the Magician software that has a 'Optimization' section specifically for what you are asking. I will take screenshots so you can see what Samsung thinks is best for SSD's (for the setting I am using, which is for Most Reliable not Best Performance). First 2 screenshots are for reliability the second 2 are for performance (just to give you both sides) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newinko Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Windows 8.1 automatically configures itself for optimal solid-state performance. If you want to check that Windows 8.1 properly detected your SSD as one, launch Defragment and Optimize Drives and check that your boot device is detected as a Solid state device. Also make sure that automatic optimization is turned on: this is recommended to maintain performance over time. Don't disable the page file. You'll likely run into issues unless you have a massive amount of RAM, and even if you do, some programs don't play nice when the page file is off. Studies have also shown that wear and tear due to page file writes is minimal on SSDs. Just use your computer as-is and don't sweat it; the biggest (and quite frankly only) way to boost the performance of your SSD is to upgrade its firmware to its latest version. Ambroos 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroos Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Windows 8.1 automatically configures itself for optimal solid-state performance. If you want to check that Windows 8.1 properly detected your SSD as one, launch Defragment and Optimize Drives and check that your boot device is detected as a Solid state device. Also make sure that automatic optimization is turned on: this is recommended to maintain performance over time. Don't disable the page file. You'll likely run into issues unless you have a massive amount of RAM, and even if you do, some programs don't play nice when the page file is off. Studies have also shown that wear and tear due to page file writes is minimal on SSDs. Just use your computer as-is and don't sweat it; the biggest (and quite frankly only) performance boost you might get depending on your SSD is by upgrading its firmware. This, totally. Since Windows 7 there is absolutely no need to change anything, Windows detects when you're using an SSD and sets everything to optimal sensible defaults right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anibal P Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Yep what was said above me is about it, there hasn't been a need to "fix" windows since at least Vista, and the mentality some have that it has top needs to die a painful death like XP Just let Windows do it's thing, it will be stable as long as you don't tweak a thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compl3x Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Congrats on the upgrade :). I bet even without any 'optimizations' you notice its like a brand new computer hu...i'm telling ya, SSD is the only thing that should be in these machines now-a-days. Sure add some price to the cost of the machine but still, the SSD's are sooo worth it for ANY computer. A spinning 'disc' is def 20 years ago. Anyway, just wanted to congratulate you on the nice advancement. Now, I use a Samsung 840 Evo. I have the Magician software that has a 'Optimization' section specifically for what you are asking. I will take screenshots so you can see what Samsung thinks is best for SSD's (for the setting I am using, which is for Most Reliable not Best Performance). First 2 screenshots are for reliability the second 2 are for performance (just to give you both sides) optimizess1.png optimizess2.png highperfoptimizess1.png highperfoptimizess2.png I was coming here to post about Samsung Magician software. I thought all manufacturers would have optimsation software. At the very least manufacturers software is good to have so it can check for firmware updates. A firmware update can improve performance more than some settings might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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