Organized Effort to Kill XP


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Why shouldn't there be an organized effort to kill XP? Continuing to run ancient software benefits only very few.

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Why shouldn't there be an organized effort to kill XP? Continuing to run ancient software benefits only very few.

Is it hurting anyone but the person using it? I think if they can pay for support or know the risks, they can use XP all they want, I don't care.

At the end of the day, Microsoft will get more money overtime if they get money for support and then the company upgrades

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Bosses where I work want to keep using unpatched XP for your social security and HIPPA information in addition to credit card processing. Windows 7 looks too funny to change and they do not want to pay to update software. Vice presidents are calling the shots saying no to Windows 7 and fighting IT.

 

If I can't make XP secure without patches from hacking then I must suck as a IT guy etc.

 

The worst part is when those systems are inevitably compromised, it will suddenly be the IT departments fault for not "warning them of the true severity". 

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Getting reports at work that hotels are blocking XP machines from connecting to WiFi.  Not sure if this is true or user ignorance....

Wouldn't surprise me. Lots of places have begun banning XP from their networks, my employer included.

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Never learned what hyperbole is?

 

There is literally nothing better about XP than Windows 8.x. Nothing.

 

XP is head and shoulders above windows 8 from a usability standpoint.

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XP is head and shoulders above windows 8 from a usability standpoint.

 

It's funny whenever i'm remotely connected into someones windows 8 machine, I click start and then when the full screen appears I'm like... #@#*@!@

 

because all I wanted is a little box to appear so I could click computer. (yes I know it can be used by the explore shortcut on the title bar)

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XP is head and shoulders above windows 8 from a usability standpoint.

Subjective of course.. but 30 seconds later after a few applied tweaks, 8 blows XP out of the water and has the same familiar interface. Better performance, better stability (by far), better file manager, better 64 bit support (again by far), better everything. Well, unless you like seeing XP's file explorer leave "screen trails" all over the place when it crashes, then yea, XP's better.
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XP is head and shoulders above windows 8 from a usability standpoint.

 

Well, you know, untill you actually try it. 

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Well, you know, untill you actually try it. 

 

I've tried it,  I have Windows 8.1.1 on 4 computers, (the other 6 have Windows 7), just not the start screen. I still think XP is still easier UI wise to get to things. if we were comparing just XP and Windows 8 from a UI standpoint.

 

Pretty much the only 2 features I love about Windows 8 is the abilities to pause file transfers and the check mark on the charms bar to show hidden files, that's pretty neat.

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XP is head and shoulders above windows 8 from a usability standpoint.

 

Of course it is.  :rofl:

 

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I'd miss the Start Screen and Aero Snap too much. I hate using XP and work and dragging two windows side by side to fill half the screen each. And forget searching for files, it lumbers through searching roughly 1 file a second. How is XP more usable for you specifically? 

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Bosses where I work want to keep using unpatched XP for your social security and HIPPA information in addition to credit card processing. Windows 7 looks too funny to change and they do not want to pay to update software. Vice presidents are calling the shots saying no to Windows 7 and fighting IT.

 

If I can't make XP secure without patches from hacking then I must suck as a IT guy etc.

Using Windows XP on a network after the next 12 weeks is actually HIPPA violation. Many HIPPA violations can be considered a criminal offense or fined upward of $1.5 million.

 

You really should file a HIPPA complaint at http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/complaints/ as this is an unacceptable business practice.

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I couldn't help notice Gerowen is trying to install Avira while it looks like AVG is running / scanning in the background.

 

Installing an AV's on top of another active AV is generally a bad idea, no matter what OS it is. 

 

For reference, the unofficial Windows 98 Second Edition Service Pack was last updated 3/15/2014.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/unofficial_windows98_se_service_pack.html

 

On the topic of usability, Microsoft has changed / tweaked the new start menu in Windows 8 twice now, and adding back a form of the start menu this year.

Based on sales, and consumer / corporate feedback, the new UI is not universally accepted like past versions of windows were. 

 

Not sure why all the active hate, let it die / go through it slow natural decline.

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Using Windows XP on a network after the next 12 weeks is actually HIPPA violation. Many HIPPA violations can be considered a criminal offense or fined upward of $1.5 million.

 

You really should file a HIPPA complaint at http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/complaints/ as this is an unacceptable business practice.

 

 

Ooo for real?!

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Ooo for real?!

Pretty much yes. They don't actually specify minimum operating system requirements. However, they do have specific security requirements and require a risk assessment plan (which could include upgrading to a supported OS). Since MS is dropping support for Windows XP and software companies are as well, that pretty much negates any risk assessment plan you could possibly do in most cases. This is why pretty much the whole industry says having Windows XP is a HIPPA violation.

 

It looks like sinetheo's bosses only care about saving money in licenses, so it could be considered neglect to act.

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Pretty much yes. They don't actually specify minimum operating system requirements. However, they do have specific security requirements and require a risk assessment plan (which could include upgrading to a supported OS). Since MS is dropping support for Windows XP and software companies are as well, that pretty much negates any risk assessment plan you could possibly do in most cases. This is why pretty much the whole industry says having Windows XP is a HIPPA violation.

 

It looks like sinetheo's bosses only care about saving money in licenses, so it could be considered neglect to act.

I did not know this.

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Wouldn't surprise me. Lots of places have begun banning XP from their networks, my employer included.

 

As long as the user is isolated on teh guest network, which anyone not authorized to be on the main network should, shouldnt really post a threat to anything.  Think some are just being overly paranoid.

 

XP will die out of the business looong before the home.  Unless you live in China.

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I did not know this.

 

Same here!

 

A perfect counter-argument to the lame excuses would be by force (HIPPA). Maybe THAT'd get their asses in action.

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Same here!

 

A perfect counter-argument to the lame excuses would be by force (HIPPA). Maybe THAT'd get their asses in action.

Well come to think of it, it is a form of neglect. By neglecting your network, you are now putting customers at risk for a massive breach of trust.

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Well come to think of it, it is a form of neglect. By neglecting your network, you are now putting customers at risk for a massive breach of trust.

 

There you go. Now businesses have NO other excuse AND no other choice.

 

Boom. Their lists of excuses got shot down like a one-winged duck. :)

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I'm really surprised that some of you "techies" or "advanced" users on this site didn't know that XP is no longer in compliance with networks that have equipment attached to process electronic payments (i.e. credit card machines).

 

Here is a great resource to read up about this: https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/security_standards/documents.php?association=PCI-DSS

 

Fun fact: XP isn't the only one out of compliance. If you read over section 5/6, you'll see that an argument could be made against using MSE on a computer on the same network as a credit card machine.

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Just recorded a video to share on FB and G+ to help my friends move on to bigger and better things.

 

Based on the content of the video, it appears to be targeted at complete and total newbies. Why post it on a tech forum? :/

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