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Okay,

I have seen the other posts, but none of them are specifically posted as Poor FPS Rate, one is about Blooms and 1 just has the name, so I figured I should repost instead of continuing in those posts for the following reasons: ? 1) so people would read it ? 2) for anyone else having the same problems ??3) I saw in one of the other posts someone comments about unless you have a 500$ card the game will not work well. Well I have a 500$ card and the game does not work well!

Now I own a Asus Nvidia 5900 Ultra 256, and first and foremost - to any ignorant ati fanboys that are out there looking to flame my choice of cards who have jumped on the ati bandwagon for one game that is not even out yet and doesnt even have a true releasetoday is not the dayday to post about my choice of cards and how you disagree with it, think i am inferior to you, etc. i am just looking for help with this game.

Okay with that statement out of the way, up until this point my card has never, ever let me down. 9 out of 10 games I run games at 1600 * 1200 resolution and all settings high.

When I first ran Deus Ex i did feel a bit of relief upon seeing the "Nvidia, way its meant to be played screen" becasue as I said I did read the other posts about poor frame rate and poor performance, but after trying to run the game all I can say is WTF?

I do not need to run Fraps or any other program to know that the game is unplayable unless I put the resolution to 800 * 600, which, even at that resolution, it was also still choppy. Now I dont need a game to look great, I just need it to run so I can enjoy it. And it is still not running good at all at 800 * 600 resolution.

Also as other people have pointed out the mouse response time is just horrible, and I am going to try the .ini files to start seeing what I can tweak to get better performance (any further suggestions or details about the .ini files are welcome), but I am also wondering if anyone has had any other luck doing anything else? (A certain setting turned down, etc.).

If this is the way this game was "meant to be played," i dont think Ill be playing it.

Thanks in advanced for any help.

DL

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The usual UT tweaks work, I would suggest increasing the cache size. That was always the easiest way to boost performance and looking at your sig I should imagine you could assign at least 128 megs. Not sure you will need all that, but try it anyway..

There are programs that will tweak the game for you too which might be a good idea as the DX2 ini files are full of comments that make it harder to read. You can delete those and all the xbox references and still run the game without problem so try a bit of ini cleaning first then have a look at the settings.

Its a shame there isnt an easy way to access the advanced preferences.. Its like the first Deus Ex, it was hidden till the multiplayer patch brought the say command back.

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Okay,

I have seen the other posts, but none of them are specifically posted as Poor FPS Rate, one is about Blooms and 1 just has the name, so I figured I should repost instead of continuing in those posts for the following reasons: ? 1) so people would read it ? 2) for anyone else having the same problems ??3) I saw in one of the other posts someone comments about unless you have a 500$ card the game will not work well. Well I have a 500$ card and the game does not work well!

Now I own a Asus Nvidia 5900 Ultra 256, and first and foremost - to any ignorant ati fanboys that are out there looking to flame my choice of cards who have jumped on the ati bandwagon for one game that is not even out yet and doesnt even have a true releasetoday is not the dayday to post about my choice of cards and how you disagree with it, think i am inferior to you, etc. i am just looking for help with this game.

Okay with that statement out of the way, up until this point my card has never, ever let me down. 9 out of 10 games I run games at 1600 * 1200 resolution and all settings high.

When I first ran Deus Ex i did feel a bit of relief upon seeing the "Nvidia, way its meant to be played screen" becasue as I said I did read the other posts about poor frame rate and poor performance, but after trying to run the game all I can say is WTF?

I do not need to run Fraps or any other program to know that the game is unplayable unless I put the resolution to 800 * 600, which, even at that resolution, it was also still choppy. Now I dont need a game to look great, I just need it to run so I can enjoy it. And it is still not running good at all at 800 * 600 resolution.

Also as other people have pointed out the mouse response time is just horrible, and I am going to try the .ini files to start seeing what I can tweak to get better performance (any further suggestions or details about the .ini files are welcome), but I am also wondering if anyone has had any other luck doing anything else? (A certain setting turned down, etc.).

If this is the way this game was "meant to be played," i dont think Ill be playing it.

Thanks in advanced for any help.

DL

have you tried the ionstorm forums? there are tons of threads going on about this. but having to tweak an ini file to get the game running smoothly on a 5900 is just pla:/ sad :/ i freakin hate the unreal engine.

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if you're running windows xp, try setting DX2.exe to windows 2000 compatibility mode.. the file is in the gamedir\System folder

i found this tip somewhere, dun blame me if it doesn't solve your problem :D

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can try that one easily thanks DOGglee, and i wont blame you if it doesnt work and its simple enough to switch back.

and thanks for the detailed reply bull dog - i have never played UT on a pc (i just started heavily using a pc for gaming just this past august, i made the reverse "switch" from a mac, although i have been using pc's for years now since im a designer this is my first built comp just for gaming) so I am not familiar with any of the tweaks you mention in regards to UT (which also did not run so well on a mac but not to many games did actually), and I guess that is what i was asking for more details on the tweaks or possibly a link suggestion to these tweaks. And or a name of any of the programs that you mention that will tweak the game for me, as I have never used of any of them as well. Again thanks for your detailed reply.

And i will try the cache size as you suggested as well...

I will say too I have no problem and am comfortable with taking the ini files and playing around with them (as i would first and foremost make a back up copy of anything I play with) so any further details on what to play around with is appreciated.

also i like chips, im going to go check the ionstorm forums soon, and you are telling me it is a shame that i have to tweak the ini for my 5900.

thank you all so far for your replies....

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unfortunately there seems to be a nasty issue where the game window doesn't actually have 'focus' from the operating system. especially if you have anything else running.

Try to ALT+TAB out to the desktop and then clicking back into the game.

I have to do that every time I start the freakin' game with my system or it's really choppy.

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specifically you'd want to check out this thread:

http://66.193.119.177/index.php?showtopic=206212&st=0

lotta ini tweakin goodness there. some of the suggested changes do help :)

I also found a nasty little bug where the game would crash if you have too many save files. I don't seem to be the only one with this problem. However, as I tried to delete some save files, I deleted the wrong folder and my save games are now all gone :/ DEAR LORD. Careful with that if you run into the same problem :p

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specifically you'd want to check out this thread:

http://66.193.119.177/index.php?showtopic=206212&st=0

lotta ini tweakin goodness there. some of the suggested changes do help :)

I also found a nasty little bug where the game would crash if you have too many save files. I don't seem to be the only one with this problem. However, as I tried to delete some save files, I deleted the wrong folder and my save games are now all gone :/ DEAR LORD. Careful with that if you run into the same problem :p

i like chips awesome kick ass thread... going to try many of the suggestions right now...

damien , very intersting, im going to try that suggestion first and foremost and see what happens... would be really happy if it was something as dumb as that (and everytime i have tried to run the game nothing else is running at all)

grimreaper wow that sucks. 5 fps WHAT??? sorry to hear that. but thanks for the post casue it helps everyone out who is having issues (Y) see i dont mind ati related responses at all when they are civil and help contribute to a topic...

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just wanted to give a little update as to my issue with poor FPS...

well it seems as if some if not all of the suggestions did work do a certain extent.

i can now run the game*:

1024 * 768 and get 22-24 FPS .

800 * 600 i am able to get right around 30-33 FPS.

1280 * 1024 I am able to get about 13-15 FPS

1600 * 1200 i was getting 7-8 FPS.

(*according to FRAPS, which may actually be taking away a few fames per second but not that much if any at all)

I changed the cache size in the default .ini file to 128. I also changed the lighting in that .ini as well as some other stuff from the ion storm forum link provided by i like chips.

I also changed the compatibilty mode to windows 2000 which seemed to do nothing at all.

I am also doing the Alt-Tab trick which does seem to give me some improvement actually but not a great amount (all numbers above after doing alt tab)

So compare these numbers to what I get running Prince Of Persia at 1600 * 1200 at max settings, which I get 41 fps which is more than suffice (i actually thought it was higher until I checked it with FRAPS just now) and take into account that PoP, although it is not a FPS with alot going on all of the time, the graphics are far, far superior to Deus X Invisible War in my opinion (its like comparing beauty to the beast actually) and I have come to the conclusion that Deus X is written poorly and is also using a poor engine, and I am expecting a patch of over 150 MB for them to even start possibly fixing all that holds back this game.

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The usual UT tweaks work, I would suggest increasing the cache size. That was always the easiest way to boost performance and looking at your sig I should imagine you could assign at least 128 megs. Not sure you will need all that, but try it anyway..

There are programs that will tweak the game for you too which might be a good idea as the DX2 ini files are full of comments that make it harder to read. You can delete those and all the xbox references and still run the game without problem so try a bit of ini cleaning first then have a look at the settings.

Its a shame there isnt an easy way to access the advanced preferences.. Its like the first Deus Ex, it was hidden till the multiplayer patch brought the say command back.

what program

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what program

yes im still curious myself to what programs you were refering to...i would like to see if i can get those fps numbers i have listed above any higher before i completely give up on this game...

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Didn't they do some beta test on lower computer? I mean jeez, of course it will run "good" if you have double P4 3.2ghz 800fsb processor, 3.0gb of pc3200 ddr ram, ATI 9800pro (or a GeForce FX 5900 Ultra 256)...

Stupid IonStorm if you ask me!

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Didn't they do some beta test on lower computer? I mean jeez, of course it will run "good" if you have double P4 3.2ghz 800fsb processor, 3.0gb of pc3200 ddr ram, ATI 9800pro (or a GeForce FX 5900 Ultra 256)...

Stupid IonStorm if you ask me!

hehe hate to be a perfectionist but:

you cant have dual P4s only dual Xeons

cant have 3GB ram, windoes only supports 2 max

9800XT and GeForce FX 5950 Ultra are the best

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:crazy: I just tried to play DXIW demo. Totally unplayable. No one should have to edit anything to get ANY game to work. Ion Storm should fix the problem.

My System: 3ghz P4,1Gig ram, Radeon 9800 XT.

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You should get the 1.1 patch for the game, it does most/all of the .ini tweaks you should need to be able to run the game. If you are still having performance issues, turn off shadows in the option that should literally double your performance.

unfortunately there seems to be a nasty issue where the game window doesn't actually have 'focus' from the operating system.  especially if you have anything else running.

Try to ALT+TAB out to the desktop and then clicking back into the game.

I have to do that every time I start the freakin' game with my system or it's really choppy.

This was also fixed in the patch.

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I for one had no problems with my system (P4 2.4@3.0GHz with a GF4 Ti4200) and was very playable at 1024*768. There's no doubt that the game was rushed out and suffered as a result. Try the latest NVidia drivers (53.03) and increase the cache size and such as has been mentioned prior. Good luck, hope you get it working!

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I spent more time probably optimizing my system to play deus ex: iw than I probably did playing the game from beginning to end

Oy! Too true! Maybe that's how game designers plan on increasing the time you spend with their games now? Since they don't seem to be able to put more than 10 hours of gameplay into a game any longer, maybe they plan on making you spend 15-20 hours on manually tweaking ini files just to get the game playable in the first place!

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okay since i started this post i thought it only fair to give an update... i ran the patch yesterday and yes, the game is now playable at a 1024 * 768 resolution, and almost playable at 1280 * 1024 but not quite...but i do have to say all in all the game looks like a pile of steaming crap. i think the graphics look like they are the same calibur as half life 1, which came out how many years ago? to have to go through all of this tweaking .ini files and installing patches just to get the game to run at 1024 * 768, and a game that is not even graphically impressive IMO... all of this is just plain bad in my personal opinion... especially on a higher end nvidia card which the game boasts itself- "Nvidia, The Way It's Meant To Be Played."

As someone said above they took more time tweaking their system to run the game then actually playing the game. Me? I pretty much have given up on the game completely as it does not seem that good anyway... just my opinion and to all of those that disagree truly have fun with the game cause i could not and i did try...

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