ahfunaki Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 It's the internet, you don't have to type perfect... the only time I try and use good grammar is when writing a report... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyPotatoes Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 who cares about how you type on the internet do you print this **** out and read it to your kids? i have enough work to worry about at my job then to care about how im typing on the internet let alone what anonymous people would think about my typing as if they find it their purpose to correct me, go help some bum rebuild his life or pickup a dog from the pound if you want to help someone/thing and have them care... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessimat0r Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 (edited) We've all seen it before. The same people make the same damned mistakes time and time again. No matter how hard you try to remedy their grammatical butchery, your efforts are hopelessly in vain. The most irritating in my opinion is people's inability to properly use the words their, there, and they're correctly. For instance:"There are many people who often mix up their use of the word 'there'." "Alaska is a beautiful place. I'd very much like to go there on a long, relaxing vacation." "They're (they are) all going to flame me for this thread." So, which get under your skin the most? :whistle: Indeed. I always strive for perfect spelling and grammar on the Internet.The thing that gets under my skin the most is the use of 'alot' instead of 'a lot', and the same for 'abit', 'alittle', and all other sorts of concoctions. The reason why imperfect spelling and grammar annoys me is because I used to go to a school (Devonshire Park) which forced you to learn spelling and grammar perfectly (and they gave you a bag of sweets every time you got something right :D) As a note: I don't use correct grammar on instant messengers, except when I'm talking formally to someone ;) Edited December 11, 2003 by Dessimat0r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahfunaki Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 haha, i might try and use correct grammar if neowin gave me stuff...hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstokeley Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 As a linguist, i'd like to point out that there is no right or wrong use of language, it just is used, and is correct. The version we all write, however, is standard english (SE) and in America, American Standard English (ASE) which is incredibly specific. While I appreciate it can be difficult for foreigners to learn english, especially as we differntiate between third person present verbs. In english, we say, in the verb "to play" he plays he does play he is playing whereas most languages do not make this distinction. It is important to show tolerance for those learning the language (though we are without the genders which confuse many english learners of other languages). So the grammatical mistakes can be excused, and anyway, the internet is fun - no-one is concerned about a few mistakes online! Sorry if that was a bit off topic... but i'd also like to point out that the spelling of "knight" with the prefix "Kn" is from the english collision with the French, when they won the battle of Hastings in 1066. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 there are some things that are much more important then grammar. the word you is not spelled u are is not spelled r you're therefore is not spelled ur and numbers are rarely found in the middle of a word like p0rn, 0wned, p0wned, 3tc. so you see there are some more important things to focus on for the neowin grammar & spelling bee club. in reality though it really is easier to read things that are correctly spelled (and i sure don't spell that well, so no need to point them out), you recognize the shape of the word. and i'm surprised no one has busted out a cunning linguist joke on wstokeley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstokeley Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 ... I knew it wouldnt be long :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahfunaki Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 but did you konw taht if you keep the fsrit and lsat lteters the smae you wlil sitll be albe to cmpeormhd the scentene? or somthing like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyB Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 The problem with most grammatical and/or spelling errors is not that they are unreadable but that the poster didn't have the common courtesy to make his/her post more easily readable for their intended audience. It's a simple matter of respect for others. :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbus Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Its/It's I/i Not having a space after a comma and not having two spaces after a full stop Not knowing the difference between a hyphen and a dash These dont apply to forum posts by the way, my posts are not gramtically correct, just for formal print outs and web pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 My former English teacher once told me the reason that we spell 'knight' with Kn is because of the way the word was pronounced in old English... 'Kah-Nick-Ta' ...or something similar. And although the pronunciation changed, the spelling never has. In fact if you watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail you will hear the french knight, on the castle, say, "You silly English Caniggits." He was actually saying 'knights.' Now go away or I will taunt you a second time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danshome Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Its/It'sI/i Not having a space after a comma and not having two spaces after a full stop Not knowing the difference between a hyphen and a dash These dont apply to forum posts by the way, my posts are not gramtically correct, just for formal print outs and web pages. Putting two spaces after a full stop has fallen out of common usage in the last 30 years or so. Neither are colons and semi-colons separated from text by a space before and two spaces after ; the language is (slightly) less dignified as a result. Shockingly, HTML insists on merging consecutive white space together... I fully admit to being an apostrophe nazi - at least the positioning commas, semi-colons and the like are mostly a matter of style; there are hard and fast rules for the apostrophe and you just look like an idiot if you can't get them right. Talking of which, Eats, Shoots and Leaves by Lynne Truss is an excellent - and very amusing - book on punctuation. I actually read it last night and found myself sharing her anger at seeing signs with words such as "CD's" and "1000's" dotted around the place. And don't get me started on the film Two Weeks Notice. Highly recommended for anybody with a vague interest in English. And a sense of humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nanackle Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Loose and Lose... people always mess that one up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumper Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 but did you konw taht if you keep the fsrit and lsat lteters the smae you wlil sitll be albe to cmpeormhd the scentene?or somthing like that... The problem with that is the fact that, for me at least, it takes a lot of concentration to be able to actually pull off that trick. In today's society, where typing is a normal everyday thing, I don't see how punctuation, spelling, and capitalization can be so misused. Kids today type their school reports instead of writing them. Wouldn't the repetitive use of correct typing and language skills start to form a habit of doing it correctly? I'm sure the power of the modern word processor has something to do with the laziness since it'll basically check all of your spelling and grammatical mistakes for you. I do love the tools of the trade though, but I'm still somewhat old school (notice the double space between full stops). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_daemon Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 (edited) For those who think english is stuffed... you should see french. As for what bothers me the most, I suppose it's mostly people spelling "Kernel" as "Kernal" It annoys me beyond words. n fact if you watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail you will hear the french knight, on the castle, say, "You silly English Caniggits." He was actually saying 'knights.' That's because in french you are more compelled to pronounce what is usually silent in english, and vice versa. (That's why sometimes when an english person pronounces Tr?s Bien, it sounds like Trez biann, while it's supposed to be pronounced tray biyein (with the N half-silent, as in, you stop pronouncing it before your tongue hit your palace and it goes "nnnn". This is why japanese confuses me since they consider "n" to be a standalone syllabe.) EDIT: I fart in your general direction! Edited December 11, 2003 by mr_da3m0n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waphle Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I admittedly can be very annoying when it comes to grammar. I can't help but correct people! Since I live in Taiwan... this can be very often. Some things that really annoy me include using most for the wrong words and using it along with "est" or "er" like... "you're the most smartest person I've ever known." Also, the use of the words good and well, I feel well (as opposed to the frequently incorrectly used I feel good), you did well, the game was good, etc. But certainly my spelling and grammar aren't perfect online. I guess it's not really so important - as long as the message gets across! Good knight! (in my time zone) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poind Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 People use "I could care less" when they mean to say "I couldn't care less". The word is "definitely", not whatever else people can come up with....definately, definatly, definitly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDogsBed Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 but most people dont feel the need to double check grammar... why ?because they feel comfortable with this place, or they are just bad at it. a strange fact though no mtater how you wtire txet popele can uaslaluy raed it... as lnog as you put the frsit and lsat caharcaetrs in the rghit sopts and the naerset wrod can hlep tehm srot out any hrad oens ;) Or could it be that they are too lazy? Perhaps they have no respect for those of us who have to take the time to decipher their bludgeoned English; ergo, they displace the time that they should have spent checking their work onto those who have to read it. I see few plausible excuses for poor grammar other than dyslexia or native language barriers. As for my pet hates, it is, without a doubt, the misuse of exclamations. Christ, if I had a ? for each time that I have seen this in casual writing and in advertising. Example: Sale on!! I was so angry!!!!! Just how many times do these people feel they can exclaim an exclamation? Please, for the love of God, you only ever need one exclamation. In fact, in most cases you don't need one at all. My second pet hate is the misuse of the word "one", in the context of, "If one was to go into town..." Usually the culprit is one who wishes to show that he is refined and has a more than basic grasp of the English language. However, to those who can claim such traits, his efforts are quickly recognised as out of place and entirely in the wrong context. The result is that the author ends up looking a complete idiot. Please, don't try to impress if you are unsure of what you are doing. For my third, I offer the tragic comedy which is usually found in advertising. Example: Massive rug sale now on!! (Note the exclamations too.) When was the last time you found yourself in need of a massive rug? I tend to prefer the smaller rugs which fit nicely before my fireplace. I so often see these errors as I walk around towns. I could go on but alas time and I (Note: not "me and time".) are already in battle for supremacy. Please, spare a little time for us grammar pedants who recoil in painful horror as we read such grammatical horrors. :)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Ode to Spell Checkers I have a spelling checker I disk covered four my PC. It plane lee marks four my revue Miss steaks aye can knot see. Eye ran this poem threw it. Your sure real glad two no. Its very polished in its weigh, My checker tolled me sew. A checker is a blessing. It freeze yew lodes of thyme. It helps me right awl stiles two reed, And aides me when aye rime. Each frays comes posed up on my screen Eye trussed too bee a joule. The checker pours o'er every word To cheque sum spelling rule. Bee fore wee rote with checkers Hour spelling was inn deck line, Butt now when wee dew have a laps, Wee are not maid too wine. And now bee cause my spelling Is checked with such grate flare, There are know faults in awl this peace, Of nun eye am a wear. To rite with care is quite a feet Of witch won should be proud, And wee mussed dew the best wee can, Sew flaws are knot aloud. That's why eye brake in two averse Cuz Eye dew want too please. Sow glad eye yam that aye did bye This soft wear four pea seas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poind Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Or could it be that they are too lazy? .... SniperX: It's *sooooo* nice to see someone write with complete sentences, proper grammar, and punctuation (seriously -- just in case it needs to be clearly said with the way I myself am writing some things here). Silly_Walk: That "Ode to Spell Checkers" will certainly be getting passed along. Thank you so much for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Flammer and flamer Spammer and spamer Loose and lose "Join my friend and I", which should be "Join my friend and me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Yes. I can't stand how people thing loose = lose. Also people who type u or 4 or r. For cryin out loud...type it all out. You come across like an idiot when you use the 'shortcuts'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_daemon Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I forgot to add: People who write rooter instead of router. I can't tell why but it really annoys me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dissonation Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Fruit flys like trees... When was the last time you saw a tree flying? My grammar is slowly improving, but my spelling it attrocious(?), though I do have an excuse, dyslexia! My biggest problem other than spelling is knowing when to use a full stop instead of a comma, I really suffer badly, I tend to put full stops at the end of paragraphs only. I?ve also set up MS Word to automatically correct "u" to "you" (amongst other things), so I find myself writing "u" all the time, even in had written stuffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_daemon Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Well at least you're trying ;) And I suppose I have an excuse for gremetikal mistaeks since my mother tongue is french. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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