jessejlt Posted January 27, 2002 Share Posted January 27, 2002 What's going on here? Why are these being deleted? Does Brad really have that much influence on this board? What a joke. Is Neowin really that much of a Corp. ######? WTF? I'm dissapointed. jesse ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timan Veteran Posted January 27, 2002 Veteran Share Posted January 27, 2002 hell i'm glad they are i'm ###### this prog got leaked so :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimSage Posted January 27, 2002 Share Posted January 27, 2002 I still want to know what the heck objectDock is. No one seems to want to say much about it except they have moded it. I want to know what it is and what it does. As far as I can tell it is a dock like OS X has for XP but how does it work who is making it and where can it be gotten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortensen Posted January 27, 2002 Share Posted January 27, 2002 Does Brad really have that much influence on this board? I think this is more about Neobond not wanting 'warez' links or people talking about 'warez' on the boards. It IS basically warez because I guess that this is a product that wasn't MEANT to be distributed [either because it was illegal to release it or because they were going to charge for it]. I really don't think this is a case of Stardock being a monopoly.... LMAO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timan Veteran Posted January 27, 2002 Veteran Share Posted January 27, 2002 well dont' get me wrong but has neowin kinda came from warez think abut it the same thing happened with xp :ermm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dclanz Posted January 27, 2002 Share Posted January 27, 2002 I've been seeing the threads around myself. Whatever it is...everyone's being quiet. Apparently it's the latest invention by Stardock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessejlt Posted January 27, 2002 Author Share Posted January 27, 2002 This program is by no means warez. That's rediculouse. It's an internal build of a product they don't even plan on releasing...indeed it's not even a real program by the tradition means of the term. If I were screwing around in C and made some stupid little app, and then gave it to a freind, and he spread it around, I would be ****ed, but I wouldn't go crying warez. lmao How stupid. Anyways, all this is is some code that Starpuke threw together to see if they could make an aquadock for the PC, and they succeeded somewhat. It's extremely buggy code, but hey, it's Starpuke! Anyways, if you're looking for a link to it, it's been mirrored a few times over at [H], go do a search for it and you'll find it. I would post it here but I'm sure it would get deleted right away, and maybe myself along with it. Still waiting to see what Apple has to say about it. I love the fact that Starpuke was stupid enough to thow Apple trademark icons into an obviouse Apple rip product. Duh! jesse ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted January 27, 2002 Share Posted January 27, 2002 From what frogboy has said, it is a very early alpha version of something they were doing at stardock. They have better, and more flexible releases in house, so when it was leaked, it was already an older version. Whether it is to be released has yet to be determined. The fact remains that it is warez. The same happened with WinXP. So many beta versions were leaked, and it was all warez. Warez is basically a program, game, movie, etc that the creating company does not want released yet, or is unintended as freeware. I for one am sick of jessejlt disrespecting Stardock and their products. You can have opinions about a company, but when it comes to calling them names, and knocking products you know nothing about, it is over the edge. Though i enjoy Neowin boards, lately there have been many personal attacks, especially when it comes to WB vs msstyles. Keep to the facts, and don't resort to personal flames. It only makes you look stupid, and lowers others resect of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenreaper Posted January 27, 2002 Share Posted January 27, 2002 Originally posted by jessejlt Anyways, all this is is some code that Starpuke threw together to see if they could make an aquadock for the PC, and they succeeded somewhat. It's extremely buggy code, but hey, it's Starpuke! ... Still waiting to see what Apple has to say about it. I love the fact that Starpuke was stupid enough to thow Apple trademark icons into an obviouse Apple rip product. Duh! And that's why Stardock doesn't want it spread. It's buggy, because it's not release quality - because it's not finished, it's just a technology demo. It's got Apple stuff in because the lead developer likes the look. Of course Stardock wouldn't be stupid enough to throw the icons in if they had any expectance that it would be spread around. But the more people spread it around, the more attention Apple will pay to it, and the less likely Stardock will ever be able to release it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divinatum Posted January 27, 2002 Share Posted January 27, 2002 Originally posted by jessejlt This program is by no means warez. That's rediculouse. It's an internal build of a product they don't even plan on releasing...indeed it's not even a real program by the tradition means of the term. If I were screwing around in C and made some stupid little app, and then gave it to a freind, and he spread it around, I would be ****ed, but I wouldn't go crying warez. lmao This program is by no means warez. - yes it is warez, its a internal leak of a app which makes it warez, i think the ony reason they are ****ed is because with this app floating around the net, apple will soon find it, put a heavy lawsuit on stardock, and stardock will be f*cked because the genie animation may be licenced code, and if i was codeing in C or VB and my app got spread around the net, persionally id be pretty ****ed. Just my 2 cents :right:HackerSp0rtZ:right: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM5K Posted January 27, 2002 Share Posted January 27, 2002 This by all means is warez, unless someone from Stardock says it's ok for us to have it, otherwise it's not much diffrent than a leaked beta build of InternetExplorer (a free app), which Microsoft doesn't allow. Also Stardock may be concerned about bugs, and Apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dclanz Posted January 27, 2002 Share Posted January 27, 2002 Enough people. We're all Neowinians here...so let's keep everything we know to ourselves. Hopefully Stardock will release a stable version soon and Frogboy will be kind enough to post a link in the software section for us to check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deadzombie Posted January 28, 2002 Share Posted January 28, 2002 than to just creat a copy of the OSX dock. This application should eventually be a customizable app launcher that bridges the gap between Object bar and desktopX, with tons of cool features. Hope they can keep it going. Until then, if you want an app launcher that looks like the OSX dock, visit AquaSoft. I've just created a desktop X dock with a new icon conversion process that converts OSX icons perfectly to the XP desktop. Perfectly. So the dock looks real. Still not more than an app launcher, but I'm working on it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamXP Posted January 28, 2002 Share Posted January 28, 2002 id hate for neobond 2 get upset or anything, but when i was browsing fro warez, i was directed 2 this site, so i think someone has been spamming for neowin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeza Posted January 28, 2002 Share Posted January 28, 2002 i guess all those leaked versions of Service pack 3 for windows 2000 and DirectX builds are warez too cause if microsoft wanted people to have it other than the beta testers it'd be up on their site right? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divinatum Posted January 28, 2002 Share Posted January 28, 2002 yes, the leaked win2k sp3 and DX builds are warez, but neowin lets people know about them and if we can beta test them @ beta-place neowin lets us know.. they dont provide links to download these leaked builds.. again just my 2 cents :right:HackerSp0rtZ:right: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deadzombie Posted January 28, 2002 Share Posted January 28, 2002 1) Warez: any installed software build that the user does not have the legal right to use. 2) No one outside of Stardock has the legal right to use Object dock. 3) Neowin forum rule: No Warez (links) or Cracks: These kinds of posts are not tolerated here Please drop the object dock threads. You guys really don't give a damn if you kill this project, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalo Posted January 28, 2002 Share Posted January 28, 2002 Try reading your own post... Neowin does not allow warez links, but they don't mind if we have conversations about it. I don't think anybody is going to post another link to download Object Dock. If they do, then it can quickly be mod'd out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickedkitten Veteran Posted January 28, 2002 Veteran Share Posted January 28, 2002 Originally posted by deadzombie 2) No one outside of Stardock has the legal right to use Object dock. uh you might wanna check your posts cos stardock doesn't even have the legal right to HAVE objectdock lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linsook Posted January 28, 2002 Share Posted January 28, 2002 ....... :cool: :p :sleeping: :o :right: :rambo: :alien: :ponder: :cheeky: :evil: kill the fahing project...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmak Administrators Posted January 28, 2002 Administrators Share Posted January 28, 2002 I'm sorry but what are you guys talking about. I see three object dock threads on the main customizing windows xp page alone. https://www.neowin.net/bboard/showthread.ph...15&pagenumber=3 https://www.neowin.net/bboard/showthread.ph...15&pagenumber=2 https://www.neowin.net/bboard/showthread.ph...&threadid=12356 If there are any other object dock threads deleted then there must be a good reason for it. And if Frogboy has problems with any of those threads he can contact us. And yes we do value his opinion without becoming a Stardock ######. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deadzombie Posted January 28, 2002 Share Posted January 28, 2002 they don't have the legal right to Object dock? Who told you that? They created Object Dock. As long as they keep it internal they most certainally DO have the right to have it. Oh yeah, they're Stardock. They have no rights because people don't like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickedkitten Veteran Posted January 28, 2002 Veteran Share Posted January 28, 2002 Originally posted by deadzombie they don't have the legal right to Object dock? Who told you that? They created Object Dock. As long as they keep it internal they most certainally DO have the right to have it. Oh yeah, they're Stardock. They have no rights because people don't like them. ok then if they have the legal right to make something that is basically trying to emulate one of the main copywrited elements of the apple interface then they do retain the legal right to be sued by apple pure and simple. what makes you think that just because they made objectdock they have a legal right to it? "well apple we made this so **** you and your copywrite" hahahah your a right laugh m8, go to law school and get back to me when your done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deadzombie Posted January 28, 2002 Share Posted January 28, 2002 ...on U.S. law and development practices. What the h3ll was I thinking? Having a little Scottsman in my lineage I'm glad it was a Scottsman who corrected me in the error of my ways. Let me get this straight; You are saying that because Stardock has an internal build of an application that uses Apple imagery that it's freeware if it leaks out, even if they are involved in a legal dialog with Apple concerning that application? Hmmm...no it sounds like your still making excuses for people doing the wrong thing. Regardless of what Object Dock does or doesn't do, it's is still Stardocks intellectual property, and it is illegal for anyone else to use it without Stardocks legal permission. The potential for Stardock to be in conflict with Apples intellectual interest is a seperate issue entirely that has no relation to people distibuting the dock as a 'warez' application. At no time did Stardock legally release the Object Dock in any commercial sense, thus not violating Apples intellectual property. They did not 'reverse engineer' the OSX dock (that would be pointless). The use of Apples images and effects on an internal build that is being discussed with Apple is not a violation of law. It seems clear that people distributing the Object Dock as warez could find themselves in legal conflict with both Stardock and Apple, under U.S. law, which is what counts in this issue. One for intellectual property, one for trademark/ copyright violations. Stardock did not distribute this, they are not liable. As you say, "pure and simple". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiGhTfast Posted January 28, 2002 Share Posted January 28, 2002 its a buggy piece of crap anyhow... whats the big fuss :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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