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Visual Studio VS Web Expressions vs Dreamweaver

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sinetheo    586

I downloaded the now free community edition of Visual Studio 2013 and I am disappointed so far. I got web essentials but other than that it is no Web Expressions 4 :-(

 

Web Expressions 4 is now 5 years out of date with no HTML 5 support.

 

I can't connect easily to a IIS VM I created and it seems to be geared toward ASP.net for code already designed by another program like Web expressions or dreamweaver.

 

Does VS 2013 support .php or have 1/5 of the features of Dreamweaver or Web Expressions? Or am I a n00b who is missing something?

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SharpGreen    231

I downloaded the now free community edition of Visual Studio 2013 and I am disappointed so far. I got web essentials but other than that it is no Web Expressions 4 :-(

 

Web Expressions 4 is now 5 years out of date with no HTML 5 support.

 

I can't connect easily to a IIS VM I created and it seems to be geared toward ASP.net for code already designed by another program like Web expressions or dreamweaver.

 

Does VS 2013 support .php or have 1/5 of the features of Dreamweaver or Web Expressions? Or am I a n00b who is missing something?

VS is pretty much exclusively ASP.NET. So no it doesn't support PHP or really anything else.

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proit    6

Personally:

Firefox + Firebug + Notepad++ is the best web development combination you can do.

If you perfer not to go down that route, Dreamweaver is lightyears ahead of anything else.

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MikeChipshop    3,458

If you're looking for a new IDE but don't want to fork out for Dreamweaver, then you have plenty of good choices out there.

Give NetBeans or Sublime text a go.

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proit    6

Give NetBeans or Sublime text a go.

I also enjoy Sublime Text a lot.

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ACTIONpack    491

I use Dreamweaver. It for the coding layout and there ftp built in. What I don't like about it is that Dreamweaver does not work well with WordPress that php files are not seen as part of wordpress.

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neo158    281

Actually Expression Web 4, I assume that's what the OP means by "Web Expressions 4", does support HTML5 in the DOCTYPE and Secondary Schema Options.

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adrynalyne    13,087

I downloaded the now free community edition of Visual Studio 2013 and I am disappointed so far. I got web essentials but other than that it is no Web Expressions 4 :-(

 

Web Expressions 4 is now 5 years out of date with no HTML 5 support.

 

I can't connect easily to a IIS VM I created and it seems to be geared toward ASP.net for code already designed by another program like Web expressions or dreamweaver.

 

Does VS 2013 support .php or have 1/5 of the features of Dreamweaver or Web Expressions? Or am I a n00b who is missing something?

A n00b perhaps, but only because you want to use non-MS technologies in a Microsoft IDE.  Visual Studio is not even in the same realm as Dreamweaver.  Wrong tool for the job, my friend.

 

I cannot stand Dreamweaver or Expressison at any rate.

 

I recommend you use Sublime Text.

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adrynalyne    13,087

Personally:

Firefox + Firebug + Notepad++ is the best web development combination you can do.

If you perfer not to go down that route, Dreamweaver is lightyears ahead of anything else.

Chrome + Developer Tools + Sublime Text myself. 

 

Sometimes Webstorm.  Visual Studio for all web service development.

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Ambroos    801

At work everyone either uses Sublime Text or PhpStorm (WebStorm works too). And one guy uses vim.

 

Whatever you use, just stick with it. After a while you start discovering the settings and plugins, and in a few weeks you'll have everything set up how you like it.

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proit    6

Chrome + Developer Tools + Sublime Text myself.

Is there something Developer Tools does that Firebug can't?
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Ambroos    801

Is there something Developer Tools does that Firebug can't?

They're very similar, it's just a preference for most people. I always use the Chrome ones because they have better support for the Javascript frameworks I use, but Firefox has better ES6 support etc. I'd use Firefox's built-in stuff over Firebug though.

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adrynalyne    13,087

Is there something Developer Tools does that Firebug can't?

I tried Firebug and hated how things were presented.  I like Chrome's layout better and Firebug offers nothing to me not available in Chrome, as far as I know anyway.  So mostly preference.

They're very similar, it's just a preference for most people. I always use the Chrome ones because they have better support for the Javascript frameworks I use, but Firefox has better ES6 support etc. I'd use Firefox's built-in stuff over Firebug though.

Yeah, I'll use Firefox's built in tools over Firebug too.

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sinetheo    586

I also enjoy Sublime Text a lot.

Sublime looks like just an editor.

I found this link

http://www.oio.de/public/opensource/comparison-IDE-for-HTML5-CSS3-JavaScript-shootout.htm

Everyone agreed phpstorm or webstorm is the best but not free anymore. Since I do not get paid yet for my project I do not see a return on investment to justify the expense.

Was considering aptana but will look into netbeans again and see if visual studio 2013 community edition offers anything if I create an empty website and add webessentials plug in plus only use ftp.

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adrynalyne    13,087

Sublime looks like just an editor.

I found this link

http://www.oio.de/public/opensource/comparison-IDE-for-HTML5-CSS3-JavaScript-shootout.htm

Everyone agreed phpstorm or webstorm is the best but not free anymore. Since I do not get paid yet for my project I do not see a return on investment to justify the expense.

Was considering aptana but will look into netbeans again and see if visual studio 2013 community edition offers anything if I create an empty website and add webessentials plug in plus only use ftp.

For what sounds like you are doing, all you need is an editor.  Do you really need something to hold your hand and do it for you?

 

If you require a visual aide, try brackets.

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adrynalyne    13,087

VS is pretty much exclusively ASP.NET. So no it doesn't support PHP or really anything else.

Sure it does.

 

Outside of ASP.NET:

 

Typescript

Javascript

HTML

CSS

Node

 

 

Ive probably missed some.  i only included web related technologies of course.

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ITOps    40

If you are looking for a fully fledged IDE for PHP, I recommend looking into using for Zend Studio along with using Zend Server for development which is built for PHP by the company behind PHP, who are core contributors to the foundation of PHP. 

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SharpGreen    231

Sure it does.

 

Outside of ASP.NET:

 

Typescript

Javascript

HTML

CSS

Node

 

 

Ive probably missed some.  i only included web related technologies of course.

Most of which are in support of ASP.NET :p Though I guess you could use that support for standalone stuff as well.

 

I also forget they added Node.JS support in the 2015 preview builds.

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adrynalyne    13,087

Most of which are in support of ASP.NET :p Though I guess you could use that support for standalone stuff as well.

 

I also forget they added Node.JS support in the 2015 preview builds.

You can have Node support in 2013 as well. :)

 

http://nodejstools.codeplex.com/

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BinaryData    777

Haha. I use Notepad++, and Dreamweaver.

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Xtremrules    3

VS is pretty much exclusively ASP.NET. So no it doesn't support PHP or really anything else.

VS community 2013 supports both Php and phyton but through a plugin
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BinaryData    777

VS community 2013 supports both Php and phyton but through a plugin

Ohhh! I'm excited! I like Python, and knowing that it's supported through a plugin, is awesome!

Though, I have Visual Studio 2013 Ultimate. Does that still work with it?

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Mulrian    58

Ohhh! I'm excited! I like Python, and knowing that it's supported through a plugin, is awesome!

Though, I have Visual Studio 2013 Ultimate. Does that still work with it?

 

Yeah you'll be fine. You just need to install the Python developer tools.

 

https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/python-vs.aspx

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anthony_may    1

Personally:

Firefox + Firebug + Notepad++ is the best web development combination you can do.

If you perfer not to go down that route, Dreamweaver is lightyears ahead of anything else.

+1 Totally agreed.

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tompkin    153

+1 Totally agreed.

What version of Dreamweaver??

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PacificAk    34

I downloaded the now free community edition of Visual Studio 2013 and I am disappointed so far. I got web essentials but other than that it is no Web Expressions 4 :-(

 

Web Expressions 4 is now 5 years out of date with no HTML 5 support.

 

I can't connect easily to a IIS VM I created and it seems to be geared toward ASP.net for code already designed by another program like Web expressions or dreamweaver.

 

Does VS 2013 support .php or have 1/5 of the features of Dreamweaver or Web Expressions? Or am I a n00b who is missing something?

WebMatrix 3 + Helicon Zoo = complete coding stack in one IDE

WebMatrix even has database CRUD capabilities

 

yes, it is a tool for beginners,

but hey! if it makes your job easy then why the heck not! :)

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