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You have to understand remixed will balk at anything that is considered trendy or appealing to what she refers to as "yuppies" (which she hates)

I hate a lot of things "Apple", mainly their marketing crap that's 90% lies. But I do give credit where it's due. The design is one of their major pluses, and this notebook IS beautiful. I don't care what's under the hood, because I'll never buy one (there are far better alternatives, like Air, as Anibal P said, or other ultrabooks or notebooks), but from a design point of view, you cannot say that this thing is ugly.

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People are gonna actually buy this ###### lol

 

Different target markets, so yeah. 

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Avatar. "Hey yo!" Brings back memories. 

Oh, I see. :) Yeah, I love Scott Hall, I love the nWo and I wish I could experience these times again... 

Sorry for the off-topic guys, just a little trip down memory lane :)

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who here thinks the new "macbook" is the crocs of the laptop world?

 

it's tacky, only has one port, appeals to a target market that has more money than style or sense, and is slower than my cheap laptop or 99 dollar best buy tablet.

 

I don't think that. I would say that this is where technology is going, but the technology is already there. It has nothing to do with having more money than style or sense. As I've said before. This isn't a laptop designed for the wired world. If you've invested in updating what you have to the wireless version, and you like the Apple ecosystem, then this is the laptop for you. I think Apple revived the Macbook name to test this out so that if it does tank for them, they could just sunset it again without affecting their Air or Pro lines. If it does work out for Apple, not only do I think we'll see more ports cut from the Pro and replaced with multiple Type-C ports, and the Air line merging with the Macbook, but other companies will follow with their take on it. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft doesn't already have a one port, well, two port Type-C (for one-up manship) Surface in the works.

 

Also, I don't really get why people are just about to crap the bed over the $80 adapter. It's a 1 to 3 adapter. 1 to 1 adapters for the Surface Pro are like $40. Type-C is new. The market hasn't been flooded with devices with a Type-C ending, so it's like, if for some reason you go with the Macbook, or even that Google Pixel thing, and you need to plug something in, you need an adapter anyways. And, again, since it's Type-C, other companies can make their own adapters, which will drive down the cost, and you'll get a lot more use from it because you can still use it as you hop from device to device since it is a standard. Don't get me wrong, I get that adapters are not ideal, but we have to deal with it as technology pushes forward, while still trying to support some of the, "legacy," stuff. I have a few adapters and hubs coming out of my i5-2500 system that I built a few years ago, and I have friends who work off of Surface Pros that have spent $240 on docks and adapters. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's just the norm when it comes to computers.

 

 

You're confusing what you think looks better with what is considered fashionable to the masses.   Right now, a mac is fashionable - if you have one - that is considered "cool"

 

 

Considered cool to who? What about us folks who left the high school mentality behind when we graduated? :p 

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Considered cool to who? What about us folks who left the high school mentality behind when we graduated? :p

cool to the kind of people who follow that kind of crap.  Maybe "cool" isnt the right word, or maybe you fail to realize that "cool" has a meaning beyond being 16 years old.

fashionable, cool, in style, that stuff - go to any Starbucks, you will see what I mean.  Maybe someone else can explain it to you better than I.

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cool to the kind of people who follow that kind of crap.  Maybe "cool" isnt the right word, or maybe you fail to realize that "cool" has a meaning beyond being 16 years old.

fashionable, cool, in style, that stuff - go to any Starbucks, you will see what I mean.  Maybe someone else can explain it to you better than I.

The word you were looking for was hip.

 

Hipsters will flock to this.

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cool to the kind of people who follow that kind of crap.  Maybe "cool" isnt the right word, or maybe you fail to realize that "cool" has a meaning beyond being 16 years old.

fashionable, cool, in style, that stuff - go to any Starbucks, you will see what I mean.  Maybe someone else can explain it to you better than I.

 

No, I get that. I don't think I fail to realize anything. Sorry. I just don't live in a bubble where people consider you cool for owning a Mac, or anything else for that matter, and I haven't been in that bubble since high school. I was just joshing around, and I figured that the :p would suffice, but I guess I was wrong in that.

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No, I get that. I don't think I fail to realize anything. Sorry. I just don't live in a bubble where people consider you cool for owning a Mac, or anything else for that matter, and I haven't been in that bubble since high school. I was just joshing around, and I figured that the :p would suffice, but I guess I was wrong in that.

No you werent wrong - the joshing around part was understood .... A lot of people do live in that bubble - as adrynalyne pointed out - the better word is "hip" maybe.

It exists well after high school - the "things" people covet just get more expensive.  When you get out of college - its about who lives in the best zip code, the best street, the biggest house, the nicest cars, then its who sends their kids to the best private schools, who belongs to the best country clubs.  It goes on for a long time.

Unless you live in the northern panhandle of Florida - Im sure you know exactly what Im talking about.  Of course, everything is relative and what is coveted by one group is laughed at by another...

 

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bat seriously... apple is hardly a luxury brand these days... apple is more eddie bauer or brooks bros rather then chanel or gucci....

 

kids these days call iphones "old people phones" and galaxy S5/note4, and onePlusOnes are the "cool phones" Lumias are gaining ground as well.

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you're not the target demo aka too poor

 

So. I can afford a Surface Pro 3 i7/512GB ($1999) which I bought without even denting my chequing account..

 

I don't like the MacBook or iPads. (And I own two iPads and two Macs...)

 

Care to rationalise that?

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bat seriously... apple is hardly a luxury brand these days... apple is more eddie bauer or brooks bros rather then chanel or gucci....

 

kids these days call iphones "old people phones" and galaxy S5/note4, and onePlusOnes are the "cool phones" Lumias are gaining ground as well.

Well - in terms of computers, if apple is the hot item - it is the Chanel, Purple Label, Kitan, or any couture - because they are at the top of the heap.

You may not consider it a ;uxury brand but many do -- and in lack of a Chanel - Apple gets that status.

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I just don't see these suited for any professional unless its lightweight office suite type work or internet checking.

 

what does a professional do that is not possible to perform on such a device? i mean seriously, far more software nowadays runs just fine on every half capable notebook than not.

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It's the target audience: the road warriors that want OSX, have all their data in the cloud and just need a productivity laptop with great screen and battery life. If they want to connect their external HD or some other external device then they just use their MBP or MBA or even their PC, for example; this new macbook is mobility first.

 

IMHO the 1 port is stupid but i know people where this laptop would make total sense...

 

The problem is that that same person would be better off if they had just made it an option to have a better screen in the MacBook Air. 

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I read AnandTech's hands on of the new Macbook here
 
Ryan Smith of AnandTech writes this
 

With that said, after using the MacBook and talking with the Apple employees presenting it I

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http://www.imore.com/nsfw-power-users-need-shut

 

ok some apple gushing but the overall message is good, power users get trapped in a bubble of what they use computers for (be it windows, mac osx or linux) and then they apply this bubble to everyone else, it's not the end of the world, we all do it, but the MacBook is a great device but sales will dictate how well it actually does. 

 

If the lack of ports is a problem or if it's too slow, this computer is not for you, get a macbook pro or a dell xps or a hp envy, however there must be a market for it, but sales will decide it. 

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I think Apple are testing the waters with the new MacBook, to see what people's impressions are. As for the power, I have a little 1.4GHz i5 MacBook Air for work, and it's been fine. Yeah it's not going to do any massive computation, but for general stuff (including coding) it's fine. Day-to-day, I can't tell the difference from my own MBP, which cost over 3 times as much, and has twice as many cores running at double the clock speed (1.4GHz i5 vs 2.8GHz i7).

I said it was a disaster when they removed ethernet from the MBP, but I was wrong. The idea of having a laptop with a single port is something I really like the sound of. Why can't everything just be daisy chained from one port?

Granted, right now, we're going to be stuck with adapters with the single port approach. But in 5/10 years time? I don't think we'll need anything more than a single unified port. Every so often Apple throw out something that looks silly, but is a few years ahead of it's time. The MacBook Air - ultrabooks followed, the Retina MBP - most other high end laptops followed suit. Maybe this will be the same, maybe it won't. I kinda hope it is though.

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I think Apple are testing the waters with the new MacBook, to see what people's impressions are. As for the power, I have a little 1.4GHz i5 MacBook Air for work, and it's been fine. Yeah it's not going to do any massive computation, but for general stuff (including coding) it's fine. Day-to-day, I can't tell the difference from my own MBP, which cost over 3 times as much, and has twice as many cores running at double the clock speed (1.4GHz i5 vs 2.8GHz i7).

I said it was a disaster when they removed ethernet from the MBP, but I was wrong. The idea of having a laptop with a single port is something I really like the sound of. Why can't everything just be daisy chained from one port?

Granted, right now, we're going to be stuck with adapters with the single port approach. But in 5/10 years time? I don't think we'll need anything more than a single unified port.

 

I think your spot on. I fully suspect that Apple will phase out the Air with in the next year, kind of surprised they haven't yet. The Air originally was meant to do what the current new Macbook does. The new Macbook, while not a full re invention of the laptop like they mentioned but more of a re invention of the macbook line. Most people that use the ipad have been ok with no other ports, this is essentially a beefed up ipad, with a full desktop / keyboard. This is targeted for students and business users on the go all day that won't be plugging and unplugging ports. This is not meant for someone using it at a desk with multiple peripherals. Apple will still sell those if you need, I would imagine their led displays will get a usb c connection. I think USB C is really what thunderbolt should have been. Sure like the OP said you can get a $99 laptop that has more ports, but you can't match the quality that Apple is offering. 

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I think your spot on. I fully suspect that Apple will phase out the Air with in the next year, kind of surprised they haven't yet. The Air originally was meant to do what the current new Macbook does. The new Macbook, while not a full re invention of the laptop like they mentioned but more of a re invention of the macbook line. Most people that use the ipad have been ok with no other ports, this is essentially a beefed up ipad, with a full desktop / keyboard. This is targeted for students and business users on the go all day that won't be plugging and unplugging ports. This is not meant for someone using it at a desk with multiple peripherals. Apple will still sell those if you need, I would imagine their led displays will get a usb c connection. I think USB C is really what thunderbolt should have been. Sure like the OP said you can get a $99 laptop that has more ports, but you can't match the quality that Apple is offering.

I agree. When I'm at work I use a few different things - external display, ethernet, couple of peripherals, so the new one would be impractical. But when I'm at home - 99% of the time I have nothing (or nothing but power) connected. There are actually some ports, such as HDMI and the SD card reader that I've never used - and for all I know they may not actually work.

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I bought an 11" Air in January, and in 3 or so months that I've had it, have used a USB port once and the 3.5mm headphone jack a handful of times.

I use the machine every working day, for about 5-6 hours a day, charging it only when the battery is dead (about every day and a half).

 

It usually has nothing plugged into it, not even a power cable.

It's an i5/4GB/256GB, but I think I could happily survive on a lower powered machine.

 

Battery life is about what they quote - I can get about 10 hours or so (they quote 9).  That's with the screen at about 80% battery, WiFi, web browsing and office apps - pretty much what is described as average usage.

 

My machine weighs 1.04kg - I would more than happily sacrifice 120g for no ports and a high resolution display - portability is my main objective, ports and versatility are not objectives at all.

I guess I am the target market, and had I not bought an 11" Air 3 months back I would be placing my order as soon it became available.

 

I only thing they have 'taken away' that I might miss is the MagSafe power connection. Not because it has saved my computer as it has some, but because it is an awesome and convenient piece of design.

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It's all about that bitten fruit the target market thinks about, end of story LOL :laugh: .

 

 

PS :I never buy myself real fruits so don't even talk about that thing :p:rolleyes:

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