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That's.. wrong on so many levels.. but like..I can see how the algorithm may have gotten confused  :/

 

In before someone without brains blames you for racism. :p

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That's.. wrong on so many levels.. but like..I can see how the algorithm may have gotten confused  :/

 

Yeah, same. I think their tagging algorithm needs a teensy weensy bit more work! ;)

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Myself being a African American Male (black) am not not angry just sad and disappointed as I age.

 

The crap that my parents, grandparents, great grandparents and so forth, would be mostly out the window this day in age.

 

It seems (can't speak for the rest of Earth) that America just can't let it go.

 

 

 

The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

 

Ecclesiastes 1:9

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Myself being a African American Male (black) am not not angry just sad and disappointed as I age.

 

The crap that my parents, grandparents, great grandparents and so forth, would be mostly out the window this day in age.

 

It seems (can't speak for the rest of Earth) that America just can't let it go.

 

 

 

The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

 

Ecclesiastes 1:9

 

Sometimes I wonder if people want to let it go... it's kind of like the abortion debate... it makes for great political talk and stirring the pot.... take that away and people would probably just move on and live their life as normal people... (minus of course the major racists, which really are a problem to anyone)

 

I think some of the younger ones though take it WAY to far though... (Ex: Baltimore with the random burnings and such)

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The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

 

Ecclesiastes 1:9

how would one interpet this?

 

 

also, i see it as a programming/coding mistake I guess, but it just comes  to show, like neofuse says, it will happen, just for the sake of it happening :/

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Has a speech from Obama and Jesse Jackson been scheduled yet?

I think they are meeting right now with the Google CEO's to make a big press op out of how Google is going to fix this and the world at the same time

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how would one interpet this?

 

 

also, i see it as a programming/coding mistake I guess, but it just comes  to show, like neofuse says, it will happen, just for the sake of it happening :/

 

 

I think it's basically saying that humans haven't changed much (outside of technology advances) and it's pretty much wash, rinse, repeat with us humans..

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I think it's basically saying that humans haven't changed much (outside of technology advances) and it's pretty much wash, rinse, repeat with us humans..

 

The problem is, comparing black people to Gorillas as been done in the form of racist hate before.

 

Anyone with half a shred of common sense knows this is an incredibly unfortunately mistake and probably not even a human mistake. A person didn't do this deliberately, an algorithm has been made to loosely identify and compare things, it got it wrong. 

 

However we do all know that the Media will have a field day with this sort of thing and make it out to be a much bigger issue than it needs to be.

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"he flatly confirmed that "lots still [needs] to be done" in terms of facial recognition; he specifically called out "dark-skinned faces" in that assessment."

 

So Google knows it doesn't work properly, but rolled it out anyway. Good times.

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I don't know what's so wrong. They are clearly extremely black, like turn on a light up in here black. And gorillas are also mainly black coloured.....so.....not such a far assumption/

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The problem is they are using neural networks to identify things, and how exactly neural networks work are still a bit of a mystery.  I remember studying these things in Artificial Intelligence class back in the early 90s when they were new.  The neural matrix would associate things they didn't expect.  Example: Teach the matrix to learn to recognize a tank, so you show it 500 pictures of tanks.  Then you ask it, is this picture a tank?  Sometimes it wouldn't work.  They realized that the neural matrix was associating tanks with a sunny sky, and it couldn't tell spot one when it was raining in the picture.  And it seems after 20 years they can't don't know exactly what the matrix is learning.

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The problem is they are using neural networks to identify things, and how exactly neural networks work are still a bit of a mystery.  I remember studying these things in Artificial Intelligence class back in the early 90s when they were new.  The neural matrix would associate things they didn't expect.  Example: Teach the matrix to learn to recognize a tank, so you show it 500 pictures of tanks.  Then you ask it, is this picture a tank?  Sometimes it wouldn't work.  They realized that the neural matrix was associating tanks with a sunny sky, and it couldn't tell spot one when it was raining in the picture.  And it seems after 20 years they can't don't know exactly what the matrix is learning.

 

 

i took neural networks course in 2000.    it was a very hard course because no one really understood it fully, our teacher included.  there were very little books available on it at the time.

it was the first time the course was run there at an undergraduate level in our uni.

 

at the end we passed with a B+, because our teacher could not even grade us fairly, and decided just to give everyone a similar grade and be done with it.  

(i think there was a couple of people with As, but i swear they did not know any better, they just talked a lot in class)

 

it is pretty crazy how the pathways form, and how "it" "learns"

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I don't know what's so wrong. They are clearly extremely black, like turn on a light up in here black. And gorillas are also mainly black coloured.....so.....not such a far assumption/

 

I am white, I have a similar flesh tone to a pig but I wouldn't get mis-identified as one.

Perhaps that is the bigger problem here, not that it picked similar colours but that it mixed a human with an animal.

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Myself being a African American Male (black) am not not angry just sad and disappointed as I age.

 

The crap that my parents, grandparents, great grandparents and so forth, would be mostly out the window this day in age.

 

It seems (can't speak for the rest of Earth) that America just can't let it go.

 

 

 

The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

 

Ecclesiastes 1:9

 

Computer Vision and AI are very hard to tackle and get it right, I know, I've done a lot of work in it. Don't search for racism in this and don't blow it out of proportion. It's simply an algorithm failing.

 

You are taking this way out of context, no need to make a victim out of yourself because of it.

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