TheLegendOfMart Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 Yes well you started preaching that all online games are the same... and then decided to tailor your argument for a very specific breed of games. The kind of person who'll spend his entire evening wondering around virtual worlds trading chickens *will* be willing to spend ?10 a month, because they don't get out. The don't spend money on drinking and other social activities.The rest of us actually do enjoy a normal sex life, and can't commit a set amount of money each month (I'm guessing the guy who said ?10 is nothing lives at home still) to something that we may only use for a few hours a week.;);) And then, as EVERYONE else has pointed out, most games don't require persistant-world style servers. Games can be hosted locally, private / public 'non-official' servers can be created. If the game is good enough, servers are never in shortage. Whilst you are right to an extent Cpt.Winters, you've completely missed the point for the majority of online gaming IMO. Yeah but thats the thing, the only games that pay to play ARE mmorpgs, so basically the argument is tailored to them specific games anyway, i dont see you having to pay to play WC3 etc... hence why MY argument was tailored specifically towards that genre of gaming. And im happy for you, whilst no one really cares what you get up to or how many times you have sex, that isnt at question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forster Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 Yes, I'm currently paying / have paid for a month of Ragnarok Online. Wont be renewing my subscription however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 Ok Captain Winters, then what exactly is your point?!??!?!! People pay to play mmorpgs already, obviously that's accepted within the community. You're not saying anything new there. I really don't see the point you are trying to make! Everyone seems to be in agreement.. for mmorpgs you pay, for anything else you don't *have* to because the key point of note is that they don't tend to be reliant on official servers. If EA started charging for server access, people would just use 3rd party servers. They don't have that control unless it is one unique (set of) environment(s). I really don't see what on earth you are trying to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForkliftDude Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 the difference here is the type of game. mmogs aren't 32player servers that just need to have arbitrary uptimes and no peristant storage for data, thus you HAVE to rely on official servers, or more exactly, official data centers. we're talking in numbers of multiple thousands on the same gameworld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holes Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 Hmm, currently... PlanetSide - Initial Cost FREE 7 Day Trial then $12.99 a month. Wow... break the bank! Some games are worth paying for. I mean, look at PlanetSide, they keep adding new things to it all the time and the like. Also, I think someone mentioned this, with things like PS, the game is running all the time. All Battle.NET really is for things like WC3 is a peer2peer network connector. You find someone to play with and the game is hosted on the machine of the person that created the game. So, reality... WC3 doesn't require an awful lot of Blizzard's time to keep up to date and going correctly. However, something like PlanetSide/Everquest does. Although, tbh, they should charge as much as they do for expansions for said games. The XBOX Live! approach isn't really making MS money from the consumer. Its more about making money from the games manufacturers. So, for example, Counter-Strike... the makers of the game have to pay MS to test the game, pay extra to have it tested on Live! and then its released. Then, the makers of the game have to line MS's pocket each year to keep the servers running. Either way, games publishers get pinched with costs too. Just my 2c worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubanPete Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 I dont agree with paying subscriptions UNLESS the software is given out for free. I think game company's have a cheek to make you pay for a game you can't even use without a subscription, its a joke! I also agree that only MMOG's should be subscription, although i feel it is possible for these to be publicly run just like any other game. Another thing i found a complete con is the addition of Adverts to the loading screens of MMOG's that require subscriptions, they're taking the mick!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 the difference here is the type of game. mmogs aren't 32player servers that just need to have arbitrary uptimes and no peristant storage for data, thus you HAVE to rely on official servers, or more exactly, official data centers. we're talking in numbers of multiple thousands on the same gameworld. Is there an echo in here? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 Ok Captain Winters, then what exactly is your point?!??!?!!People pay to play mmorpgs already, obviously that's accepted within the community. You're not saying anything new there. I really don't see the point you are trying to make! Everyone seems to be in agreement.. for mmorpgs you pay, for anything else you don't *have* to because the key point of note is that they don't tend to be reliant on official servers. If EA started charging for server access, people would just use 3rd party servers. They don't have that control unless it is one unique (set of) environment(s). I really don't see what on earth you are trying to say. Thats my point, the original thread poster, im assuming, didnt specify, everyones prattling on about how they wouldnt pay for this that and that other, when in reality they dont do it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genius Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 Well, I will pay for my FFXI that arrives tommorow:) The whole idea is not too much suitable for my pocket but I'm a big fan of Final Fantasy series, I'm looking forward to playing On-Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForkliftDude Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 Is there an echo in here? :) no idea. my perception is troubled today due lots of beer and other stuff last night ;/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zimm2 Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 No way in hell I'm go to pay online gaming. Costs too much. I better off buying a $20-$60 game from a store. :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugi Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 A lot of games you can down load the trial ushaly a 10-30 day full game for free then u can just not cancil you sup cribtion and keep playing leagly yea u still have to pay but u never had to go to the store and spend like 50-60 $ on a game makeing the monthly fees reason able Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venturas Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Sure if it fits in the following: - most people i know online want to play it - it doesn't cost an harm and leg per month (20? or something like that) - it has DECENT anti-cheating protection and new security updates get released soon - as nuf "appeal" to play and play attm i don't even got time or patiente to play most games i want to SP let alone MP! Last one i played with some net-contacts was CoD and we had lots of fun tho /end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticparadox Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 A lot of games you can down load the trial ushaly a 10-30 day full game for free then u can just not cancil you sup cribtion and keep playing leagly yea u still have to pay but u never had to go to the store and spend like 50-60 $ on a game makeing the monthly fees reason able :wacko: That's nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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