Linux: Review of KDE 3.2 Beta 2 (3.1.94)


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that was a good review and im glad gooeylinux flew off the ground so fast! amazing site guys! but u shoulda had someone who was not anti-KDE review it :p

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Cool, great review :)

I would like to try KDE soon, but not in its current form - I can't stand the bloat and lack of uniform interfaces :p I do like how it has a great IDE and a huge library of applications when you first start (although that's a drawback as well - too many apps aren't good either :) ). Thanks for posting the review though, it looks like KDE has eliminated a few of the things that I didn't like about it =)

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A very good review and I agree with the reviewer.

People complain about MS software being bloated, but KDE gives new meaning to BLOAT. I hate how cluttered KDE is, sure it does everything but many of its functions are so hard to find and execute that they may as well not be there at all.

Plus the load it puts into your ram, its a joke.

KDE 4 should be a complete re-write from scratch, they need to de-bloat and get it all back to being a Window manager because thats what it is after all.

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A very good review and I agree with the reviewer.

People complain about MS software being bloated, but KDE gives new meaning to BLOAT. I hate how cluttered KDE is, sure it does everything but many of its functions are so hard to find and execute that they may as well not be there at all.

Plus the load it puts into your ram, its a joke.

KDE 4 should be a complete re-write from scratch, they need to de-bloat and get it all back to being a Window manager because thats what it is after all.

actually i think its considered a desktop environment

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I have to disagree. KDE is as bloated as you want it to be. If you use the proper linux distribution one can decide which apps are compiled and which aren't. Thus it's possible to slim down KDE a lot. Have a look at http://docs.kde.org/ You can disable nearly any application listed there. I e.g compiled only kteatime out of the kdetoys package since I just don't need all this crap like kworldclock and so on. Of course you need the proper distribution as I mentioned before. One is called gentoo.

Besides - if you would like to have a windowmanager only, get one - windowmaker, icewm, blackbox, waimea,... there are dozens out there. You don't have to use KDE if you don't like it or if you disagree to its policies or if you are unwilling to learn how to configure it the way you want it. That's the so called freedom of choice...

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KDE 4 should be a complete re-write from scratch, they need to de-bloat and get it all back to being a Window manager because thats what it is after all.

Rewriting something like KDE from scratch isn't exactly a small task. If they did that, we'd be lucky to see the first release of KDE 4 maybe in 2005.

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Actually if they're at 3.2 now releasing version 4 in 2005 wouldn't be too bad.

Just backport some stuff and keep some people working on 3.x so new point releases continue.

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Looks nice with the exception of the desktop fonts. I still prefer the cleartype fonts that Windows XP and Mac OSX have. I wish KDE would some day incorperate them. :)

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Looks nice with the exception of the desktop fonts. I still prefer the cleartype fonts that Windows XP and Mac OSX have. I wish KDE would some day incorperate them. :)

i think those are copyrighted..

anyways ive tried out kde 3.2 and it is bloated like many have said. but most of all hard to use. you have to go through so many menus just to customize your toolbar. if xfce4 added support for icons on the desktop, it would probably be my choice for linux desktop

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i think those are copyrighted..
In case you own a Microsoft Windows install CD you of course may use them with linux as well.
you have to go through so many menus just to customize your toolbar.

Have you ever tried right-clicking things?

if xfce4 added support for icons on the desktop, it would probably be my choice for linux desktop

It's possible to have a "desktop" with xfce. I haven't done it yet though (since I'm using KDE :laugh: ). Try rox or idek.

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i meant they couldnt include those fonts out of the box. they can also use the ntfs.sys file to read/write to ntfs partitions but they still use the reverse-engineered driver. i know you can right-click on things. i was talking about the way the toolbar system works (extra toolbar, konqueror toolbar) its all quite confusing. and icon support for the desktop is being worked on for support of straight out of the box xfce

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In Libranet 2.8.1, if you use the Adminmenu, it will download and install Microsoft TrueType fonts at the click of a button. Its pretty spiffy.

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I wouldn't call it a great review, but at least he got the information accross better than most "tech journalism" sites. The anti-kde bias was pretty strong, and I got confused in a few places - ie: why doesn't the IM program have sounds...the kde sounds are annoying.

A lot of his issues seem to be because kde is different than gnome (ie: why doesn't it support gnomes "start here" link) which IMO is totally unfair. Rather than complain that "This isn't intuitive" because it's differnent from iTunes, I would like to know exactly what is weird. Is the preferences menu hidden under the Help button? Does CD burning require you to click on eject while holding down F8? Also, the way he kept saying "X doesn't have anything unique", apparently it's not lacking anything either or he would have let us know. Rather than the negative tone I think something along the lines of "Application-X contains the standard suite of functionality and like the rest of default applications is integrated into KDE fairly well except for....blah blah blah".

I don't like KDE - haven't really used it since version 1 (save for on machines at school) - but that's no reason to be so darn negative. I guess it's because the site is new, and they haven't had a chance to practice the art of review yet. 43 active members in <1 month is a good start.

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