Scorbing Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Seems to me that a PC with a good FX5200 card is better than this. Just a thought. Source: http://www.xbreporter.com/xbox_system_specifications.php ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Xbox Hardware Specifications CPU 733 MHz Intel Custom Pentium III Front Side Bus 133 MHz - 1.0 GB/sec RAM Micron 64 MB DDR SDRAM Memory Bandwidth 6.4 GB/sec bus Storage Medium 8 GB Hard Disk (Western Digital, 5400 RPM) I/O (Input / Output) w-5x DVD-ROM Type 9 DVD - 8.5 GB single sided 4x Proprietary USB Game Ports (12 Mbps) Broadband Ethernet Connection (100 Mbps) Proprietary Audio/Video Connector Graphics Processor Unit 250 MHz Custom-Designed NV2X Max Polygon Performance 125 M/sec Simultaneous Textures 4.8 G/Sec Pixel Fill Rate 12w Compressed Textures Yes (6:1) Maximum resolution 1920 x 1080 (HDTV Required) MPEG 2 Support Yes (Standard DVD) HDTV Game Support Yes (HDTV Cable Required) DVD Movie Playback Yes (DVD Remote Control Required) Media Comm. Processor 200 MHz Processor Custom Designed By NVIDIA Controls Hard Disk & DVD Controls High-Speed Ethernet Controls Proprietary USB Game Ports Controls Advanced Audio which uses: licensed technology from UK's Sensaura 3D. Peripheral Bus (MCP BUS) 400 MB/s (Full Duplex) Broadband Enabled Yes (10/100 Mbps / TCP/IP / WinSock) Audio Channels 256 3D Audio Support Yes (64 3D channels) Operating System - Windows 2000 Core OS (Custom designed by MS) - DirectX 8.0a (Drivers) - Part 1 of the OS is on the hard disk < 1 MB - Part 2 of the OS can be DVD disc < 500 K - (Part 1 includes the core OS, DirectX, DVD playback, some drivers and 3D user interface) - (Part 2 includes things like libraries, other drivers and other features needed by the developer) - OS takes less then 3 MB in RAM - The OS has a 3D user interface when no games are inserted to play music CDs, run DVD movies etc. - The games run in ring 0, known as kernel mode which is the fastest mode possible. V-CHIP Parental control on DVD's with ESRB ratings Size Width: ~31cm Depth: ~27cm Height: ~10cm Total Internal Components 800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blik Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Seems to me that a PC with a good FX5200 card is better than this. Just a thought. You said it. Nothing will ever beat the versatility of a PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 The thing that makes an Xbox worth the money to me. Is that any time i set down to play it. Its ready to go Also i can let my kids play it as well he he With my pc it?s not always as easy as setting down to play it. And i don?t let my kids play w/ daddy's PC. Seems to me that a PC with a good FX5200 card is better than this. Just a thought. But bottom line i think a PC is way better than an Xbox due to the fact that?s is upgradeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RauL Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 what you think will be the specs of XBOX 2 / Next ? 5GHz? 2 gigs ram? i would bet longhorny for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugg3t Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 there are some things that your not gonna see on a pc which are on the console console has its up n downs, just like a pc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.KICK Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 I am so sick of people comparing the Xbox CONSOLE to a PC :| , you can not compare them because the Xbox is a dedicated games console unlike the PC which isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 what you think will be the specs of XBOX 2 / Next ?5GHz? 2 gigs ram? Ya I cant wait to see the specs for XBOX 2 . :woot: But i vote we see a consolidaton of game console manufacturers. I would like to see microsoft take over the gamecube corp. That would rock! :woot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzla Veteran Posted January 1, 2004 Veteran Share Posted January 1, 2004 Stupid, stupid comparison. The Xbox doesn't run an OS, developers can maximise it's potential because they're programming to a set spec, there's no possiblity of hardware conflicts. The list could go on. The only time this stupid comparison could be used is to show how badly PC's use their power, look at Halo on the Xbox then compare it to Halo on a PC, try getting that to look as good as the Xbox on a ?130 PC then come back with the stupid comparisons. Then cry me a river when you have to have a >$200 graphics card to play Doom3 in any playable sense when Halo2 will still look better, play better, no worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal2002 Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 i would bet longhorny for sure No. Plain and simple NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_87 Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Ya I cant wait to see the specs forXBOX 2> .:woot:: But i vote we see a consolidaton of game console manufacturers. I would like to see microsoft take over the gamecube corp. That would rock!:woot:: Actually that would suck. And it's been attempted by Microsoft before, Nintendo didn't want any part of it. I'd rather see the current 3 manufacturer's battle it out. More competition = better games. Great comment Dazzla (Y)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairon Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 the Xbox is a dedicated games console unlike the PC which isn't. That's because...how do you say...they took PC hardware and disabled it to playing only games. It clearly could be a PC because you can run Windows CE on it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Veteran Posted January 1, 2004 Veteran Share Posted January 1, 2004 what you think will be the specs of XBOX 2 / Next ?5GHz? 2 gigs ram? i would bet longhorny for sure No way Longhorn. I would reckon probably about 2.66Ghz with 512MB RAM. Remember, it's gotta be made to a cheap spec, so people can afford it. (?150 or less). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzla Veteran Posted January 1, 2004 Veteran Share Posted January 1, 2004 Indeed, people saying it'll have a 5GHz processor are living in cuckoo land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quigley0 Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Again, I think in the future, that "consoles" will be a thing of the past. Every house will have an "entertainment center" or "media center" PC. Most TV's will be HDTV, so they'll support the higher res of a computer. The computer will become an all-in-one entertainment device. I believe the xbox 2 will just be a fancy, brand-named entertainment center PC. As soon as I get an HDTV, i'll build me an entertainment center PC, with a good video card. I'll be able to play all my PC games from my couch. Oh happy day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiGhTfast Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 I am so sick of people comparing the Xbox CONSOLE to a PC :| , you can not compare them because the Xbox is a dedicated games console unlike the PC which isn't. agreed these posts are stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insurektion Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 My God This is Stupid... XBOX: -set spec -completely optimized -running stripped down OS kernal -MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR GAMES PC: -variable spec -no where near fully optimized -you can cut explorer and some services but still impossible to run highly efficiently -made for a variety of tasks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiGhTfast Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 That's because...how do you say...they took PC hardware and disabled it to playing only games. It clearly could be a PC because you can run Windows CE on it now. was the dreamast a pc? do u class a mobile a pc if it runs windows? is a ps2 a pc because it runs linux? no more stupid posts its a game console, if the people bought one who make these posts im sure they'd stop making this bull **** up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameFox Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Seems to me that a PC with a good FX5200 card is better than this. Just a thought. Putting 'just a thought' doesn't excuse you from being a silly spec-monkey. Specs are not always all they are cracked up to be - with your logic the PS2's processor would pale in comparison to the Xbox's when in fact the gap is not large at all. Coupled with the fact that all Xbox games are designed to be run on that one specification only, while PC games have to contend with a huge variety of specs makes you look even more foolish.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyRigger Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 The Specifications are only guidelines for the Developers to follow. All complaints made on the XBOX is false. Stripped down OS=nonsense. The Xbox uses a heavily modified version of Windows that will run on the Xbox Hardware. MS went wrong with one thing on this Xbox console for sure. 64MB of Memory doesn't cut it. 128MB or 256MB of memory should've been considered. I think of an Xbox console as a inexpensive way to have a taste of a gaming machine that uses PC parts. I call it a dumbed down PC for the "POOR". Everything else regarding the Xbox I feel is irrelevant. If I was working for MS I would change 3 things with the Xbox. A Smaller design and ability to upgrade the Memory/RAM in it and removeable drive bay for expansion purposes. -JollyRigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzla Veteran Posted January 1, 2004 Veteran Share Posted January 1, 2004 Upgradable components are stupid. Then you have games saying you need 64mb, or 128mb of whatever That's pathetic and will just confuse the average consumer, the type that buy consoles. I can't say developers have been bitching about the lack of memory, just PC fanboys. And it is a stripped down Windows 2000 Kernal, not a modified version of windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev64 Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Everything else regarding the Xbox I feel is irrelevant. If I was working for MS I would change 3 things with the Xbox. A Smaller design and ability to upgrade the Memory/RAM in it and removeable drive bay for expansion purposes. You can, it's called a PC which the X-Box is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted January 1, 2004 MVC Share Posted January 1, 2004 (edited) The Xbox doesn't run an OS The Xbox doesn't run an OS ....true.... but it could :yes: Edited January 1, 2004 by warwagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiGhTfast Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 The Specifications are only guidelines for the Developers to follow. All complaints made on the XBOX is false. Stripped down OS=nonsense.The Xbox uses a heavily modified version of Windows that will run on the Xbox Hardware. MS went wrong with one thing on this Xbox console for sure. 64MB of Memory doesn't cut it. 128MB or 256MB of memory should've been considered. I think of an Xbox console as a inexpensive way to have a taste of a gaming machine that uses PC parts. I call it a dumbed down PC for the "POOR". Everything else regarding the Xbox I feel is irrelevant. If I was working for MS I would change 3 things with the Xbox. A Smaller design and ability to upgrade the Memory/RAM in it and removeable drive bay for expansion purposes. -JollyRigger I dont think you understand what a console is.... why put more ram in it when its fine with 64mb... I think of an Xbox console as a inexpensive way to have a taste of a gaming machine that uses PC parts. I call it a dumbed down PC for the "POOR". wtf it doesnt play pc games it plays console games and is the best spec'd console available... haha your a pure wacko, what can i say i think thats the dumbest post i've read have you ever seen a xbox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyRigger Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Upgradable components are stupid. Then you have games saying you need 64mb, or 128mb of whatever That's pathetic and will just confuse the average consumer, the type that buy consoles. I can't say developers have been bitching about the lack of memory, just PC fanboys. And it is a stripped down Windows 2000 Kernal, not a modified version of windows. The Xbox contains a Heavily modified version of Windows with different support features to run the xbox and not make it feel like a PC. Yes it has Windows 2000 Kernal by it's side but it's a modified one. I've known this since the begining of the Xbox existance. Get facts straight boys. Leaving a Regular Windows 2000 Kernal in a xbox system will bog down the rig. That's why it's modified. Upgradability would not confuse the consumer because The Xbox would have to undergo a design change for ease of installation of the Memory. So the Consumer won't be confused about anything. An expansion bay would be a good a idea as well. So if the current HD goes bad a replacement can be thrown that already has evrything you need. Of course MS would have to distribute the HD's because they would have to preconfigured. -JollyRigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzla Veteran Posted January 1, 2004 Veteran Share Posted January 1, 2004 Look at the (non) success of the N64 expansion pak which added memory, it divided the userbase and didn't sell enough therefore developers are reluctant to deviate from the base specification. Memory additions are so god damn stupid, leave it in the land of PCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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