DocM Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Breaking Inland Regional Center has 670 employees, social services building. 3 masked & body armored shooters with long arms, still at large 20+ hit People streaming out Police & SWAT prepping for entry Hunting for SUV, possibly a shooter Suspicious device(s) found, bomb squad using robots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-up-to-20-shot-in-san-bernardino-active-shooter-sought-20151202-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Reports of at least 12 dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 KABC TV reports 12 dead http://abc7.com/news/12-killed-in-shooting-at-san-bernardino-social-services-facility/1106844/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien_0 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Here we go again....no words to say this time Ian W and ctebah 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrosslover Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Maybe this is why police could use those armored vehicles and heavy weaponry that Obama doesn't think they need. None of those armored vehicles have any mounted weapons on them and they would surely be useful in moving in to evacuate wounded citizens in cases like these. The fact that there are reports of three shooters makes me wonder if it's a terrorist attack. Hard to say at this point though, but it doesn't appear that a particular religious place was targeted, or a particular gender spot, or the "usual" spots, only a mental facility. DocM, DConnell and Nogib 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 They're all moving in armored vehicles and 'choppers. FBI and ATF responding. Shooter(s) "heavily armed", still being reported as wearing armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JHBrown Subscriber¹ Posted December 2, 2015 Subscriber¹ Share Posted December 2, 2015 4 minutes ago, macrosslover said: Maybe this is why police could use those armored vehicles and heavy weaponry that Obama doesn't think they need. None of those armored vehicles have any mounted weapons on them and they would surely be useful in moving in to evacuate wounded citizens in cases like these. The fact that there are reports of three shooters makes me wonder if it's a terrorist attack. Hard to say at this point though, but it doesn't appear that a particular religious place was targeted, or a particular gender spot, or the "usual" spots, only a mental facility. Armored civilian police vehicles have no need for mounted weaponry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien_0 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Sounding like a terrorist attack so far to me 3 armed men, heavily armed, body armor Left a suspicious package before getting away in van very well planned out, easy target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 4 minutes ago, JHBrown said: Armored civilian police vehicles have no need for mounted weaponry. Exactly. Instead of arming the police even further, maybe they need to finally disarm some of the citizens... Stoffel and MikeChipshop 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 3 minutes ago, JHBrown said: Armored civilian police vehicles have no need for mounted weaponry. You clearly weren't near the Detroit or LA riots. abecedarian paradoxious, DConnell and Nogib 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emn1ty Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 1 minute ago, ctebah said: Exactly. Instead of arming the police even further, maybe they need to finally disarm some of the citizens... Are you saying they'd not have gotten guns if we had a gun ban? xrobwx71 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Eternal Tempest MVC Posted December 2, 2015 MVC Share Posted December 2, 2015 14 minutes ago, macrosslover said: Maybe this is why police could use those armored vehicles and heavy weaponry that Obama doesn't think they need. None of those armored vehicles have any mounted weapons on them and they would surely be useful in moving in to evacuate wounded citizens in cases like these. The fact that there are reports of three shooters makes me wonder if it's a terrorist attack. Hard to say at this point though, but it doesn't appear that a particular religious place was targeted, or a particular gender spot, or the "usual" spots, only a mental facility. Reports are (currently) of 3 white males dressed in military style. I would wait to reserve judgment on debate until we have all the facts, and then see *if* that would even be a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JHBrown Subscriber¹ Posted December 2, 2015 Subscriber¹ Share Posted December 2, 2015 2 minutes ago, DocM said: You clearly weren't near the Detroit or LA riots. Such a bold and false statement. I lived in Los Angeles during the riots. +Raze and Stoffel 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 1 minute ago, Emn1ty said: Are you saying they'd not have gotten guns if we had a gun ban? Of course not. Make it harder for people to get guns and you will see the amount of shootings go down. Common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrosslover Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 If it is a terrorist attack, I doubt we'd ever find out the truth. I can see ISIS taking credit for psychological reasons, whether they actually had anything to do with it or not, but on the flip side I don't see our government admitting to a terrorist attack having occurred. I think they would just say it was "disturbed" individuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emn1ty Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Just now, ctebah said: Of course not. Make it harder for people to get guns and you will see the amount of shootings go down. Common sense. So why are we talking about it in relation to this topic? Cause if you don't think that your suggestion would have prevented this scenario then it has no relevance to this scenario. abecedarian paradoxious and DConnell 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 5 minutes ago, Emn1ty said: Are you saying they'd not have gotten guns if we had a gun ban? Guess he never heard of the black market, which is alive and well. LA Times is reporting all 3 Shooters escaped, possibly in a black Yukon. Cops say they have one name. LA Times is reporting possible all 3 Shooters escaped, possibly in a black Yukon. Cops say they have one name. Prepping a battering ram to do a hard entry in one building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Just now, Emn1ty said: So why are we talking about it in relation to this topic? Cause if you don't think that your suggestion would have prevented this scenario then it has no relevance to this scenario. I do think that my suggestion would prevent scenarios like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 8 minutes ago, ctebah said: Of course not. Make it harder for people to get guns and you will see the amount of shootings go down. Common sense. Not so common. They've gone down since people armed up. Lowest in almost 40 years. abecedarian paradoxious and DConnell 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien_0 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 So sad this is a facility for the disabled, only completely heartless people would attack a place like this DocM, Nogib and DConnell 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 2 minutes ago, DocM said: Not so common. They've gone down since people armed up. Lowest in almost 40 years. Sure, keep telling yourself that, while a mass shooting occurs almost every day. Ian W 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 2 minutes ago, ctebah said: Sure, keep telling yourself that, while a mass shooting occurs almost every day. Sorry, wrong again. http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/?utm_expid=53098246-2.Lly4CFSVQG2lphsg-KopIg.0 "Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 1 minute ago, DocM said: http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/?utm_expid=53098246-2.Lly4CFSVQG2lphsg-KopIg.0 Why not post an even older article, maybe from the 90's? http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/oct/02/mass-shootings-america-gun-violence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 3 minutes ago, ctebah said: Why not post an even older article, maybe from the 90's? That's from 2013 and the federal stats take 1.5 to 2 years to compile. 2014 should come this winter or spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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