GNU / Linux January 2016 Desktops


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simonlang
2 minutes ago, Thomas the Tank Engine said:

 

I downloaded it a few hours ago, may eventually try it, still have Windows on this laptop. 

 

May either put LM17.3 or Qubes, although the latter doesn't work well with Nvidia GPUs and they say as much on the official site.  With LM17.2 it started giving me GPU errors of some sort, and would only render using software, so I hope that problem doesn't show up with LM17.3.  If it does, that is probably when I will try AntergOS.

 

Does it have a graphical installer?  This is the main reason why I have never tried Gentoo and that was the distro to go to for a while about 10 years ago.

 

it has a very easily graphical installer. really, it's as easy to use as ubuntu and the community is great as well. i have a nvidia gforce gtx750 and you can simply install the nvidia driver from the repos just as you would do with ubuntu. 

if you go for antergos you won't regret it. boot time is about -50% to what ubuntu has to offer.

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Unobscured Vision
Just now, Thomas the Tank Engine said:

 

I downloaded it a few hours ago, may eventually try it, still have Windows on this laptop. 

 

May either put LM17.3 or Qubes, although the latter doesn't work well with Nvidia GPUs and they say as much on the official site.  With LM17.2 it started giving me GPU errors of some sort, and would only render using software, so I hope that problem doesn't show up with LM17.3.  If it does, that is probably when I will try AntergOS.

 

Does it have a graphical installer?  This is the main reason why I have never tried Gentoo and that was the distro to go to for a while about 10 years ago.

There was an ubuntu-drivers update with 17.2 that appeared to provide a driver for my Geforce 750ti. I then added the ubuntu-tweaked 4.2 Linux kernel, and that's what I'm running with. That eliminated the need for me to resort to using the Xorg-edgers PPA, though others might need to use it still.

 

My driver is listed as being nvidia-352-updates (nvidia-352.63-0ubuntu0.14.04.1), so it should work with everything Nvidia has put out up to and including the 980ti. 16.04 will see the next cycle of driver updates.

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Thomas the Tank Engine
3 minutes ago, Simon Lang 9047 said:

if you go for antergos you won't regret it. boot time is about -50% to what ubuntu has to offer.

 

I have never officially used Debian/Ubuntu.  I only used LM17.2 last year for the first time.

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Thomas the Tank Engine
2 minutes ago, Unobscured Vision said:

There was an ubuntu-drivers update with 17.2 that appeared to provide a driver for my Geforce 750ti. I then added the ubuntu-tweaked 4.2 Linux kernel, and that's what I'm running with. That eliminated the need for me to resort to using the Xorg-edgers PPA, though others might need to use it still.

 

My driver is listed as being nvidia-352-updates (nvidia-352.63-0ubuntu0.14.04.1), so it should work with everything Nvidia has put out up to and including the 980ti. 16.04 will see the next cycle of driver updates.

 

This laptop has a Geforce GTX 660M.  I do not know what the problem is, because there were no issues with the GPU the first time I had LM17.2 installed.

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Unobscured Vision
Just now, Thomas the Tank Engine said:

 

This laptop has a Geforce GTX 660M.  I do not know what the problem is, because there were no issues with the GPU the first time I had LM17.2 installed.

Shouldn't have any. I installed LM on another rig here in the house not two weeks ago running a 610 and all I had to do was activate the driver in the Driver Manager, and one reboot later all was well.

 

I know it's not the same thing because the 660M is a bit of an oddity but they're the same architecture and the drivers should be nearly identical to one another aside from the cooling profile and some voltage throttling. It may as well be a 610, that's what I'm saying. ;) 

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On 1/18/2016 at 0:33 AM, Thomas the Tank Engine said:

 

I downloaded it a few hours ago, may eventually try it, still have Windows on this laptop. 

 

May either put LM17.3 or Qubes, although the latter doesn't work well with Nvidia GPUs and they say as much on the official site.  With LM17.2 it started giving me GPU errors of some sort, and would only render using software, so I hope that problem doesn't show up with LM17.3.  If it does, that is probably when I will try AntergOS.

 

Does it have a graphical installer?  This is the main reason why I have never tried Gentoo and that was the distro to go to for a while about 10 years ago.

Antergos has a great graphical installer...

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Thomas the Tank Engine

That was already answered.

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Unobscured Vision

Okay, I take back what I said about Nvidia playing nice with Mint.

 

I installed Mint 17.2 on a friend's Desktop machine because he wanted "trouble-free general use" and Windows 10 was being ... well, Windows. Got it installed, no issues. Updates, fine; no problems there either.

 

The problems started when I enabled the Nvidia driver. The 352-updates one. The OS, upon rebooting, went into "text fallback mode" during boot (aka "something has gone pear-shaped"), and the message was that the USB Hub had stopped responding or was no longer functioning -- funny, since there was no USB Hub. Sure enough, his wireless mouse was searching for its' transmitter on the usb port (the old "I can't feel my face" thing). Great, just great. Keyboard navigation it is. Terminal, purge the driver, restart.

 

Ruh-roh. We didn't reinstall the open-source one. Oops. We're in text mode now. Fix that, restart. Mouse is still unable to find its' transmitter. Unplugging, reset it on another port, still nothing. Power down the computer. Finally it works.

 

Sheesh.

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51 minutes ago, Simon Lang 9047 said:

@Unobscured Vision

 

i don't know about mint, but 352 seems outdated anyway. i am on 358.16. 

what about grabbing the latest short lived branch from there: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html   ?

Nah, I'm going to wait until 16.04 drops. Too much going on right now to fuss around with changing things only to have them not work. I tried getting set up for Multiseat (which was going to be my next Tips-N-Tricks post) and partially fried my mainboard. Luckily it only cost me one of my RAM slots, so I'm down to 6gb useable on this one. *sigh*

 

I'll never buy AMD garbage again. It can't handle the load.

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simonlang
1 minute ago, Unobscured Vision said:

 

I'll never buy AMD garbage again. It can't handle the load.

well i know with my AMD preference i am in the minority camp here, but everything works fine here. could be that i am just dead lucky with my choice of hardware, because all i had to complain about over the many years was one broken power supply and well once in my early days i dead flashed my bios. but hardware itself? everything fine. 

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Nah you're fine. I've been loyal AMD myself up until this happened.

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Ravensky

 

Finally settled in with my current setup, it's really very nice for developing on... I LOVE IT!

 

 

Screenshot from 2016-01-30 12-10-55.jpg

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Mulrian

@Ravensky You need to sort out the sql injection in that script :) (nice desktop though).

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Thomas the Tank Engine
23 minutes ago, Ravensky said:

 

Finally settled in with my current setup, it's really very nice for developing on... I LOVE IT!

 

 

Screenshot from 2016-01-30 12-10-55.jpg

 

So, what did you decide on?

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Ravensky
32 minutes ago, Mulrian said:

@Ravensky You need to sort out the sql injection in that script :) (nice desktop though).

lol I know...its very new code and just playing around... I will clean it up.  I have only been doing PHP for less than a month but I am already doing some pretty nice looking table work I think.  I will do SQL injection filters once this project is finished.  Just  a basic CRUD Address book to learn with. :)

So far I am LOVING php its a lot of fun to code with, and I am finding it very similar to C++ in a lot of ways.

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Ravensky
20 minutes ago, Thomas the Tank Engine said:

 

So, what did you decide on?

It's Gnome Ubuntu 15.10 ... it still have issues with some of my USB devices on boot, but *Shrug* it works well once it gets passed that, I have a lot of windows centric hardware.  I have to remove my $150 sound card to and use the onboard Realtek sound for Linux which makes me sad because that SoundBlaster Recon3D Fatality card sounds awesome in windows. Linux just did not like it and I could not find any reliable resolutions to get it to work.  I am also using a Corsair RGB k70 keyboard and Linux did not like that at all unless I had it in bios mode which made the media keys not work.  I at least resolved that with the CKB Linux drivers that some kind soul developed for Linux =)  Nvidia driver is 681 which has been working really well for me, I have two GTX780ti video cards.  If anyone knows a workaround for the Recon3D Fatality sound card with Linux that would be awesome!  It works under the 32bit kernels but very limited only 2:1 not 5:1 and not at all under the 64bit kernels.

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