PseudoRandomDragon Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/sh...threadid=108472 My system is on that list of effected systems. Ever since installing mandrake, my CDROM drive f***ed. Thinking that there was no way a program, malicious or not, could break a CDROM drive, I opened it up, decided it was f***ed and threw it out. Then I read that story. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I could have saved it. GOD DAMNIT! GOD DAMN THOSE F***ING CDROM MAKERS! LG OFFICIALLY SUCKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted January 4, 2004 Veteran Share Posted January 4, 2004 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/sh...threadid=108472My system is on that list of effected systems. Ever since installing mandrake, my CDROM drive f***ed. Thinking that there was no way a program, malicious or not, could break a CDROM drive, I opened it up, decided it was f***ed and threw it out. Then I read that story. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I could have saved it. GOD DAMNIT! GOD DAMN THOSE F***ING CDROM MAKERS! LG OFFICIALLY SUCKS! :( Sorry to hear the bad news, Pseudo... :pinch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semifamous Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 Ya. It's been posted here before (a while ago...) I can't find many links now, but here's at least one: https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?act=...t=118369&hl=&s= [edit] found another: https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?act=...t=110466&hl=&s= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PseudoRandomDragon Posted January 4, 2004 Author Share Posted January 4, 2004 Why do I have to learn everything the hard way and pay for it with time and a CDROM drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciguy007 Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 at least a cd-rom is pretty cheap, could have been worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted January 4, 2004 MVC Share Posted January 4, 2004 Was this not posted late OCT timeframe on /. ? And your just now finding out? The Mandrake errata dated Mon Nov 24 11:26:27 2003 - has specific info about it. So who is to blame for you not hearing about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PseudoRandomDragon Posted January 4, 2004 Author Share Posted January 4, 2004 This is true, it could be worse, I could have paid for this computer (I found it in the trash). Maybe I can find another CDROM drive somewhere in the trash. Edit: I have been to a few forums revolving around Mandrake and none of them had this news. The post about it on neowin is quite a few pages back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PseudoRandomDragon Posted January 4, 2004 Author Share Posted January 4, 2004 btw, Im not blaming this on anyone except LG. I mean, for a program to make it crap out, that is just plain sad. Maybe it was a blessing in disguise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt74441 Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 Does it physically damage the drive, or just screw up the firmware? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinatosk Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 I mentioned about this in the back page news forum sometime ago https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=111672 heh... least I know how much people pay attention to my posts in the BPN forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PseudoRandomDragon Posted January 5, 2004 Author Share Posted January 5, 2004 Keywords: some time ago. Im not ****ed off at anyone in specific (except LG), im mostly just ****ed off. Throwing out a CDROM drive that could have been fixed with a obnoxious procedure. The CDROM drive didn't burst into flames when I installed Mandrake or anything (which would make a good video), it just stopped responding completely. I unplugged and plugged it in, I took it apart, I hit it. If I had just known sooner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neowin_hipster Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Get mad @ lg because they broke rule #1 when designing hardware. Software should NEVER break it. Back in the really old days some monitors broke if you gave it the wrong frequencies but i've never seen something like this happen. Even the hardware i've designed has never had this problem. I can't believe you didn't find out. Wasn't there a nice warning message somewhere on the mandrake site or on the CD. They shoulda been more clear about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenMaster Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 I think on /. it was mentionned that even the drives that are "dead" can be flashed to make them as good as new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Here's the explanation of the problem: http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/lgerrata.php3 And here are instructions for bringing the damaged drives back to life: http://us.lgservice.com/jsp/common/downloa...if&FILE_GUBUN=B :happy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted January 5, 2004 Veteran Share Posted January 5, 2004 If I understand Pseudo's problem... It isn't that the CD-ROM was blanked... It is that he took it apart, and threw it away... :blink: The procedure for that involves going to the landfill, I think. :pinch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairon Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Blame it on the Penguin. LG is just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted January 5, 2004 MVC Share Posted January 5, 2004 Blame it on the Penguin. LG is just fine. And how exactly does not following the Atapi specification, or even plain common sense of not reusing commands for other functions - ie in this case flush_cache (if I remember correctly from this old news) on LG's part. Make this a penguin issue?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neowin_hipster Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 psssh, troller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHatrus Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 I hear a little bird telling you 'switch to a better distro, switch to a better distro, one with i686 architecture....' But that may just be my inner penguin speaking. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PseudoRandomDragon Posted January 6, 2004 Author Share Posted January 6, 2004 Oh no no no, sorry, I figured out how to install Mandrake from the hard drive. In fact, I posted instructions on this forum. I when thru hell figuring it out though. If I did that to learn/install Mandrake, a cheep ****ant CDROM fudging because of a crappy maker is not going to stop me, oh no. Its not fair to count this against Mandrake (or any OS) because it was not deliberate and hardware like a CDROM drive should not fail because of any type of software. Maybe one day there will be a virus that disables CDROM drives using this method :blink: Yeah...that'll teach LG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeWolf324 Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 MDK posted a large issue-base about this on their site...did u miss it?? it also had a way to fix this from happening i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PseudoRandomDragon Posted January 6, 2004 Author Share Posted January 6, 2004 Yes, I missed the story by a day. After hearing about it, I looked through the trash just to make sure. It was gone. Nothing I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solarix Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 woah jesus, i was about to install on my Dell Optiplex GX1 that woulda been bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PseudoRandomDragon Posted January 6, 2004 Author Share Posted January 6, 2004 There is a patch for it (look for it on mandrake site). THere is also a recovery technique, which I might as well paste here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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