Pet Peeve with Mac OS?


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Remember a while back we did our Pet Peeves with Windows, now it's mac's turn. What is your's?

- Mine is how you cannot expand the imacs/emacs.

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Remember a while back we did our Pet Peeves with Windows, now it's mac's turn. What is your's?

- Mine is how you cannot expand the imacs/emacs.

Not really a problem with the OS then is it... :whistle:

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Not really a problem with the OS then is it... :whistle:

ya right! During my grad assembly we had a mac playing back the goodbye video and then it crashed! Bet that! LOL

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Pet peeves with MacOS...

The Finder. It was weak before. It's still weak. In some ways it's better than previous finders - and in some ways its worse.

The Dock. God - it burns. Take it away!!!! Take it away!!! I'm not a dock fan. At all. I loathe it. No. Loathe. With a capital 'L'.

I still find Alt-Tab in Windows to be vastly more productive than the Command-Tab / Command-~ combinations of MacOS.

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- Mine is how you cannot expand the imacs/emacs.

Ram is upgradable.

You can get a firewire drive for extra storage

There are also USB audio cards for audio upgrades

You can use any old external monitor with the VGA adaptor.

You pretty much can't upgrade the video card or processor, that's about it.

However, my pet peeve is the slowness of window resizes. I don't do it too often, but when I do, it's not fun at all. I like how apps like Photoshop and others draw the outline when resizing, but apps like iTunes are horrible.. :s

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I still find Alt-Tab in Windows to be vastly more productive than the Command-Tab / Command-~ combinations of MacOS.

How in the world is the Windows version more production? They're essentially the EXACT same thing. In fact, you can't drag and drop to the program switcher in Windows, but you can in OSX.

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are those always perfectly smooth in xp either?

No, but they're comparatively better. iTunes on Windows has the same problem, so fire up iTunes, resize it and then resize a normal explorer window. The difference is staggering :s

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No, but they're comparatively better. iTunes on Windows has the same problem, so fire up iTunes, resize it and then resize a normal explorer window. The difference is staggering :s

Is it that way for the finder and other apps like iMovie or Mail?

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How in the world is the Windows version more production? They're essentially the EXACT same thing. In fact, you can't drag and drop to the program switcher in Windows, but you can in OSX.

Because Command-Tab by itself doesn't go through multiple instances of the same program - you have to switch to using Command-~ to switch between a certain program's windows. I simply do /not/ like having to use two key combinations, as a keyboard person, to perform the same functions I should be able to with one.

That's why it's a pet peeve. ^_^ And yes, for me, and my working habits - I find it incredibly unproductive. Especially since I keep forgetting Command-~!

Though yes - drag and drop onto the program switcher -is- quite nice.

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Pet peeves with MacOS...

The Finder. It was weak before. It's still weak. In some ways it's better than previous finders - and in some ways its worse.

The Dock. God - it burns. Take it away!!!! Take it away!!! I'm not a dock fan. At all. I loathe it. No. Loathe. With a capital 'L'.

I still find Alt-Tab in Windows to be vastly more productive than the Command-Tab / Command-~ combinations of MacOS.

agree with everyone! Windows all the way

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My pet peeve is that it does not lockup and crash as much as windows. ;) Oh and the lack of viruses. :p

I have to say that window resizing is a pet peeve on mine too on OS X but atleast it does not stop painting like a busy app in windows does.

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Only dislike...

- You can not truely maximize any windows.

Yes it may be nice to have the window get resized all that its needed to but i'm weird i'd like to have say safari cover the whole screen to where i dont see parts of my desktop.

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I still find Alt-Tab in Windows to be vastly more productive than the Command-Tab / Command-~ combinations of MacOS.

How so? They work almost exactly the same.

edit: nevermind, I found your other reply on this. I didn't think about that minor difference. Actually, I rarely have more than one instance of a program open, so I guess I never noticed it.

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No, but they're comparatively better. iTunes on Windows has the same problem, so fire up iTunes, resize it and then resize a normal explorer window. The difference is staggering :s

On Windows, that can be attributed to Apple not using native API's to draw the window or resize it. Therefore, it does not benefit from GDI acceleration in most video cards.

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Only dislike...

- You can not truely maximize any windows.

Yes it may be nice to have the window get resized all that its needed to but i'm weird i'd like to have say safari cover the whole screen to where i dont see parts of my desktop.

I'm thinking Safari will have a true full-screen view soon.

My comments on Command-Tab/Command-~. I find it a lot better than just Alt-Tab. If I'm searching through dozens of windows, it gets quite annoying to search through each one-by-one. Why not just find the application, and then the window in that application? Much faster. Also, the use of those two keystrokes has pretty much been eliminated anyway. Expos? is far superior and time-efficient.

You find the Dock annoying? It's essentially just the Windows taskbar. As a matter of fact, there's more functionality to the Dock than there is to the taskbar, and it seems to be a lot more space efficient too.

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You find the Dock annoying? It's essentially just the Windows taskbar. As a matter of fact, there's more functionality to the Dock than there is to the taskbar, and it seems to be a lot more space efficient too.

Actually, it's more like the taskbar and the quick launch bar combined, which makes it even MORE space efficient!! If any of the Dock clones on Windows ran smoothly on my Dell, I'd use them all the time, but each of them has their own annoyances.

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I hate the default slow speed of the mouse and how nobody changes it. I feel like i have to move the mouse to the ned of the pad over and over again to get from one end to another on the screen.

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I hate the way apple just won't pick a visual style and stick with it. I'm fine with the progression of aqua throughout os x and I find the 10.3 one particularly subdued (which I like). I can tollerate the brushed metal applications even though it seams like apple HIG team is re-writting the guidelines to suit whatever the os x team feels like doing this week. Even the 'odd' behavior of brushed apps compared to aqua apps I can deal with but what drives me nuts is the interface bugs.

Examples: remember the half-dozens differnt flavors of brushed buttons we had in 10.2? Quicktime, iMovie, iTunes, and DVD-player all had differnt buttons. Thankfully it's fixed now.

Then we have the "overlapping tooltips" bug. Make a finder window with the side bar squashed so it just shoes icons. Make another finder exactly overlapping the first window (same size sidebar).

Move the top window down 150 pixels, and to the right about 30 pixels. Move the mouse from the left to the right so that it passes over an icon in the lower windows sidebar. Keep going until you're over the top windows sidebar. Not the two tooltips. Note how they don't vanish.

Dreamweaver doesn't play nicely with expos?. Open two windows in code view (1 and 2). You're working in window number two. use expos? to switch over to safari. use expos? again and click on window 1 in dreamweaver. Window 2 comes to the foreground.

As a developer the one that annoys me most is that apple hasn't released a menu extras API that provides the same functionality as the apple ones. I want to be able to reposition the menu extras, drag/drop them off the menu bar, etc. The crippled one we have now is just annoying.

I also don't care much for the way finder windows work either. Good luck figuring out what hitting CMD+N will do or how any given finder window will look at any given time. Seaming arbitrary things will enable/disable or resize the side bar, change view from icons to column, to list and back, move it's location, etc.

The "Mac OS X software" item in the apple feels like spam

Not exactly end-of-the-world bugs like what Windows users have to concern themselves with but it's annoying all the same. I'm a big fan of consistency in my OS, something apple used to have in spades but it's starting to slip these days.

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I'm a big fan of consistency in my OS, something apple used to have in spades but it's starting to slip these days.

Didn't you use to use Linux? If you're a big fan of consistency, you must've trashed it right away.

Roadwarrior, I was getting to that. :p The taskbar and the quick launch are intertwined. I don't see many people dragging it outside their taskbar. The Dock does include the functionality of both in one area though, and more. Not only do the icons launch the application but they also control the application's position on screen. Clicking on an icon brings the app to the foreground. Ctrl-Clicking brings up a menu of windows, and more if the dev put it there.

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Only dislike...

- You can not truely maximize any windows.

Yes it may be nice to have the window get resized all that its needed to but i'm weird i'd like to have say safari cover the whole screen to where i dont see parts of my desktop.

Seriously, wtf is up with that? I like OSX but its little finnacky stuff like that that makes me not want to switch...it doesnt seem major but those little nuances add up...oh and they're expencive :p

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I'm thinking Safari will have a true full-screen view soon.

My comments on Command-Tab/Command-~. I find it a lot better than just Alt-Tab. If I'm searching through dozens of windows, it gets quite annoying to search through each one-by-one. Why not just find the application, and then the window in that application? Much faster. Also, the use of those two keystrokes has pretty much been eliminated anyway. Expos? is far superior and time-efficient.

You find the Dock annoying? It's essentially just the Windows taskbar. As a matter of fact, there's more functionality to the Dock than there is to the taskbar, and it seems to be a lot more space efficient too.

the dock is much much bigger than the task bar, unless u unlock ur taskbar and drag it up to half of the screen, keeping it at 1 or even 2 bars is much smaller than the stock dock.

though i agree with that window resizing (even my 2.0GHz old comp can do that with shadow effect on (winfx) and still get no lag, but the G5 can't?), my MAIN pet peeve is seeing windows programs that i just can't use. i've never had a NEED to use a mac program, but i've had needs to use pc programs that just aren't avaliable on the mac, games too. o and they cost so damn much too.

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As a developer the one that annoys me most is that apple hasn't released a menu extras API that provides the same functionality as the apple ones. I want to be able to reposition the menu extras, drag/drop them off the menu bar, etc. The crippled one we have now is just annoying.

Evn Show, meet MenuCracker. MenuCracker, meet Evn Show: http://sourceforge.net/projects/menucracker/

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