SaguratuS Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 (edited) I'm sure everyone has heard about the altered color in the images Nasa gave out, so I attempted to restore it as best as possible. (original image had nearly all blue removed from it) So, if mars had a blue sky... And here's the original I know the sundial in the fixed image still doesn't show the blue as it should, but there's no real way to accurately reproduce the other colors without knowing them, hopefully this is somewhat closer to reality +/- the blue sky (Hey, who knows, maybe it does have a blue 'tint' :laugh: ) (And yes, I know this probably is no where near accurate, but it still looks cool) Edit: Here is the ORIGINAL Nasa Press release photo and the sundial photo which are proof that these images have been altered in color - no I'm not saying the sky is blue, all I'm saying is that the images have been significantly altered. http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/pre...8a/PIA05015.jpg Here's the sundial (Picture taken by the same camera on mars): http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/pre...8a/PIA05018.jpg Edited January 11, 2004 by SaguratuS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcoffee Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Awesome (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted January 10, 2004 Veteran Share Posted January 10, 2004 I had no idea they altered them lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 :o In 1976 the first USA Mars lander showed, at first, a Martian landscape with an Earth-like blue sky ! After a few minutes when the picture was 'lost' due to 'technical difficulties', the Mars sky became pink. :huh: True story -- NASA hoaxing or not ? You decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snippet1 Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Who says the Martian sky is pink/red? BTW, shouldn't this go in Area 51? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wodin Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 After looking at that the original does look altered. Even the Mars lander looks like its redder than it should be. Might be interesting to find some original pictures of it and do some comparisons. I am a conspiracy theorist but I've never given the thought of NASA faking this stuff much credence. But after looking at those pics I admit I'm kind of wondering. It not only looks altered, it looks like a real amatuerish job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 First of all, I personally don't think the SKY is red, just the air, much in the same way smog makes the sky look brown to us. Because the planet is comprised (supposedly) of dirt, sand, gases, etc. there's no reason why the air wouldn't appear red. Here on Earth, as far as I know, the only time I've even ever seen the sky as clear and as blue as that is after a good rain and the air is "clean". Unless it's raining on Mars, I doubt it's that clear. Secondly, why would they alter it anyway? Just to give it that "martian" effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snippet1 Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Also, don't forget that iron oxide (what the surface is made of) is quite reflective - the red could easily be reflected onto the lander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wodin Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Well now wait a minute. I went and looked at NASA's site and here is the pic that is on their site. It looks nothing like the one that SaguratuS posted above as the original. The one that is actually on there site right now looks very realistic. Here's the link: http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA05015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poulet Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 well, the NASA one does appear very red, however why would they alter the color? doesn't make much sense to me. although we all know how they never reached the moon, why wouldn't they fake a martian sky :p j/k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 all the pics look rendered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snippet1 Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Well they certainly haven't removed the blue out of that pic. Even the light lines up correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poulet Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 what's the round thing left to that pipe-like thing and why does it seem out of place right along that line that goes vertically through te pic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonBlur Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 :o In 1976 the first USA Mars lander showed, at first, a Martian landscape with an Earth-like blue sky !After a few minutes when the picture was 'lost' due to 'technical difficulties', the Mars sky became pink. :huh: True story -- NASA hoaxing or not ? You decide. Why would they make a hoax of the Mars landings/pictures? Or the moon, for that matter. Other countries are going to the moon now, and Mars. The most recent European Mars lander malfunctioned, but eventually, they will get there too. Once these other craft start producing pictures and taking back samples, NASA and the US would be a laughing stock, not to mention every major country, and its own citizens, would never trust the US government ever again. Because of that, it is very, very unlikely anything has been hoaxed... our government makes mistakes, yes, sometimes catostrophic ones, but seriously, our government isn't actually stupid, especially not that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snippet1 Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 what's the round thing left to that pipe-like thing and why does it seem out of place right along that line that goes vertically through te pic? That's because that image is actually a stich of a whole heap of smaller pictures. That particular one just didn't line up quite properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffles Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 what's the round thing left to that pipe-like thing and why does it seem out of place right along that line that goes vertically through te pic? It is split where those two photo frames join. I imagine it does not line up because of perspective. The object is much closer to the camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackler Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 although we all know how they never reached the moon We never reached the moon?? :cry: :shifty: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 :laugh: CrimsonBlur: "Why would they make a hoax of the Mars landings/pictures?" Only reasons I can see is in the event of a failure to land the real thing, and resulting NASA budget cuts. And possible USA embarassment ? An extreme reason would be NASA found actual intelligent beings living on Mars and to hide the fact, then hoaxed a primative empty landscape. But that could never happen ... :shifty: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japlabot Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Ok can someone explain this whole colour thing from the start? is the mars sky in reality blue or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefonz Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 The Martian Atmosphere is composed of Iron Oxide, since there is not nearly enough water or Oxygen (There is in SOME small quantity), the sky cannot possibly be blue. Equally, for the sky to be completely a dark shade of red as is shown in the photos, it would have to have enormous quantties of Iron in the ground, and since we know that there are some very feroucious storms and winds on Mars; this seems plausible. I think the Martian sky is NOT blue, and is not red - rather, it is tinted; after all, there is no atmosphere on the planet to give it a "proper" sky as we know it. As far as the faked Nasa shots go - utter tripe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snippet1 Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Ohh, but Mars does have a blue sky! I just opened the image up in Photoshop, accidentally clicked something, and WHAMMO! The truth was revealed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefonz Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 :no: no, that is wrong on so many levels. hey, is anyone else curious to this story which i heard from the taxi driver on the way home this morning from a party... apparently about 2 years ago, NASA had a massive publicity drive, to recruit 10 people for a manned mission to Mars - it was 10 people from the general public, aswell as 5 US trained Astro doods. the 10 commoners would be selected after rigorous screening and trained to be NASA pilots and scientists etc - but the story died after about 3 months of it being in the news. and now with all this mars stuff happening (all of a sudden?); the manned mission has come back to the fore of the discussions. curious, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 :rolleyes: Mars does have SOME atmosphere, or there could not be winds blowing dust around. I've read that most of the atmosphere was ripped away by a close passing asteroid long ago. Maybe the answer to sky color is that it is somewhat blue on calm days, and after dust storms kick up, the fine iron-oxide particules tint the sky pink. I think it would be cool if we could transfer some of Earth's excess water to Mars, but that's probably not very practical. Would be great to restore Mars to a better atmosphere. Curious thing about some of the Mars pics: If they have dust storms, what are those smooth round patches in the photos ? I'd think the winds would wipe them out. :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technics Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 :laugh: CrimsonBlur: "Why would they make a hoax of the Mars landings/pictures?"Only reasons I can see is in the event of a failure to land the real thing, and resulting NASA budget cuts. And possible USA embarassment ? An extreme reason would be NASA found actual intelligent beings living on Mars and to hide the fact, then hoaxed a primative empty landscape. But that could never happen ... :shifty: lol, nice pic :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snippet1 Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 :rolleyes: Mars does have SOME atmosphere, or there could not be winds blowing dust around. I've read that most of the atmosphere was ripped away by a close passing asteroid long ago.Maybe the answer to sky color is that it is somewhat blue on calm days, and after dust storms kick up, the fine iron-oxide particules tint the sky pink. I think it would be cool if we could transfer some of Earth's excess water to Mars, but that's probably not very practical. Would be great to restore Mars to a better atmosphere. Curious thing about some of the Mars pics: If the have dust storms, what are those smooth round patches in the photos ? I'd think the winds would wipe them out. :huh: Yup - I think it's mostly Carbon Monoxide (I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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