Danielx64 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 That topic started it all. While I don't post in the politics forums I find it really sad that it one of the most active forum for this board and this board is suppose to be a tech board. There are some comments in there about how staff shouldn't be allowed to post in the politics forums and also people have been caught off guards in thinking that guests can't view that section. With the politics section gone I believe that this forum would be a much better place without all the toxic that politics brings. What your take on this? +rdlenk, Mando, j18 and 4 others 7 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted August 19, 2016 Global Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2016 I do not think it can be hidden ... nor can I comment about removing it altogether. However, I believe it will be much better after November 8 when either Trump or Clinton are elected. Unfortunately, this Presidential election year has probably brought forth the two most controversial politicians leading their respective parties...so the activity in the politics section is high. Anyway, I think that after the election is over it will slow down and go back to obscurity. LimeMaster, +primortal, Buttus and 3 others 6 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielx64 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, jjkusaf said: I do not think it can be hidden ... nor can I comment about removing it altogether. However, I believe it will be much better after November 8 when either Trump or Clinton are elected. Unfortunately, this Presidential election year has probably brought forth the two most controversial politicians leading their respective parties...so the activity in the politics section is high. Anyway, I think that after the election is over it will slow down and go back to obscurity. Well the Members' Metropolis forum is hidden from guests (I just checked) so it can be done from a technical view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+John. Subscriber¹ Posted August 19, 2016 Subscriber¹ Share Posted August 19, 2016 Unfortunately the politics forum is nothing more than a mirror of what's happening in the media and life right now. Polarising opinions by different groups forced to pick between two crappy choices. It's like picking the best turd. robertwnielsen, Nogib, LimeMaster and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 40 minutes ago, Danielx64 said: With the politics section gone I believe that this forum would be a much better place without all the toxic that politics brings. What your take on this? So, because you don't like something, no one else is allowed to discuss it? Riiiight... Ve7878, Nashy, exotoxic and 11 others 14 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raphaël G. MVC Posted August 19, 2016 MVC Share Posted August 19, 2016 42 minutes ago, Danielx64 said: With the politics section gone I believe that this forum would be a much better place without all the toxic that politics brings. What your take on this? I think they'd have to remove much more than just the politics section to get rid of toxicity. timster, +Raze, Order_66 and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielx64 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 1 minute ago, FloatingFatMan said: So, because you don't like something, no one else is allowed to discuss it? Riiiight... It not about that, read the topic that I have linked to and you will see where it all started from. At lease one member has been caught off guards thinking that guests couldn't view that section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Just now, Danielx64 said: It not about that, read the topic that I have linked to and you will see where it all started from. At lease one member has been caught off guards thinking that guests couldn't view that section. That thread isn't in the Politics section, it's in the conspiracy theory section. Stoffel 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielx64 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Raphaël G. said: I think they'd have to remove much more than just the politics section to get rid of toxicity. Getting rid of politics would be a good start but yes you have a valid point. 1 minute ago, FloatingFatMan said: That thread isn't in the Politics section, it's in the conspiracy theory section. Makes no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted August 19, 2016 Subscriber² Share Posted August 19, 2016 Remove that section and the membership will drop even lower. That being said it should however not be seen by guests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien_0 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Hidden by guests isn't a bad idea. I do think one main Thread for Trump, one main thread for Clinton and one for 3rd paryt should be in place with the rate at which new topics are started now. Most of these topics end up already diverging way off topic of the original story and just end up as a Trump / Clinton bashing. +Raze 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisp Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 And unhide the babe thread. exotoxic, timster, +Raze and 4 others 7 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted August 19, 2016 Subscriber² Share Posted August 19, 2016 10 minutes ago, wv@gt said: Hidden by guests isn't a bad idea. I do think one main Thread for Trump, one main thread for Clinton and one for 3rd paryt should be in place with the rate at which new topics are started now. Most of these topics end up already diverging way off topic of the original story and just end up as a Trump / Clinton bashing. So in the Tech section we can have one thread for Windows, one for Linux, One for Macs...etc . that would be a mess as having one thread for each candidate would be, it would have hundreds of pages and there are more topics about each candidate , it just would not work. Maybe have each member have a choice in their CP whether to see RWI or not to. A users choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted August 19, 2016 Veteran Share Posted August 19, 2016 29 minutes ago, wv@gt said: Hidden by guests isn't a bad idea. I do think one main Thread for Trump, one main thread for Clinton and one for 3rd paryt should be in place with the rate at which new topics are started now. Most of these topics end up already diverging way off topic of the original story and just end up as a Trump / Clinton bashing. That idea was suggested back in the 2008 election, but it would not solve the issue. For example, where do you place news items or topics which discuss both candidates? Seperating the news items also does not stop conflicting opinions. You can create sub-forums upon sub-forums and official topics but it won't stop people seeking out an argument online or posting flame bait. All you've done is moved the problem. The Evil Overlord, pqt and +Raze 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimeMaster Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Crisp said: And unhide the babe thread. You've got your priorities straight. 3 hours ago, FloatingFatMan said: So, because you don't like something, no one else is allowed to discuss it? Riiiight... He wants it hidden from guests, which it should already be because it's not tech related. It's a simple change that any admin or supervisor can do without much fuss. +Gary7 and Crisp 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 1 minute ago, LimeMaster said: He wants it hidden from guests, which it should be already because it's not tech related. It's a simple change that any admin or supervisor can do without much fuss. If you're going to hide non-tech related forums from guests, then you should hide ALL non-tech related forums from them to be fair, and then guests will think Neowin is dead. Where do you draw a line? The Evil Overlord, Nashy and +Raze 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisp Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Just now, FloatingFatMan said: Where do you draw a line? At unhiding the babe thread. +Raze, Luc2k, pqt and 3 others 6 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted August 19, 2016 Subscriber² Share Posted August 19, 2016 Just now, FloatingFatMan said: If you're going to hide non-tech related forums from guests, then you should hide ALL non-tech related forums from them to be fair, and then guests will think Neowin is dead. Where do you draw a line? RWI should be hidden. LimeMaster 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimeMaster Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, FloatingFatMan said: If you're going to hide non-tech related forums from guests, then you should hide ALL non-tech related forums from them to be fair, and then guests will think Neowin is dead. Where do you draw a line? The main non-tech related sections are already hidden. There isn't really a line to be drawn as far as I can see. The discussions in those sections won't change because guests can't view them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 10 minutes ago, Gary7 said: RWI should be hidden. Why? 4 minutes ago, LimeMaster said: The main non-tech related sections are already hidden. There isn't really a line to be drawn as far as I can see. The discussions in those sections won't change because guests can't view them. No, but guests may become members if they see topics of interest. psmoked, MikeChipshop, +Raze and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiver Veteran Posted August 19, 2016 Veteran Share Posted August 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Danielx64 said: It not about that, read the topic that I have linked to and you will see where it all started from. At lease one member has been caught off guards thinking that guests couldn't view that section. Can I ask what you think guests not being able to see it would actually do or to explain what you mean by being caught off gaurd? I'm not trying to catch you out, just trying to understand the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted August 19, 2016 Subscriber² Share Posted August 19, 2016 1 minute ago, FloatingFatMan said: Why? Quests do not need to see this, I may be wrong but at one time I think it was hidden from guests. In some forums to see anything you have to join first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 15 minutes ago, Gary7 said: RWI should be hidden. It used to be, old forum had a second password, and authorisation policies in place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Just now, Gary7 said: Quests do not need to see this, I may be wrong but at one time I think it was hidden from guests. By that logic, guests don't need to see ANY of the forum, doing so just stifles new membership... IMO, the only areas that should be hidden, are the extra areas included with a subscription. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I can see where Daniel is coming from and after a short stint commenting, Ive taken the decision myself, to just not go there in future , I've returned to under my rock in Hardware hangout, heck ive forged some pretty good friendships on neowin with a few members that have debated with me in there in an adult and respectful way lately. Cept Gary ofc, he smells lol i jest mate +Gary7 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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