SimGuy Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Both countries have upsides and downsides. I don't like the American style of banks. Banks are meant to be nation wide, not local. Health care belongs in the hands of all people. There should NOT be a 2-tiered health care system. The entire scientific community and the majority of the Nation's of earth all use the Metric system. Time to convert. It's Colour, Humour, Labour, Aluminium, Wagon and Sulphur. Don't butcher the proper English language. US has a better space program. US and UK should work together instead of against eachother, especially on something as important as a Mars rover. The ESA, JSA, CSA, NASA and all the other space agencies should be merged into a world conglomerate that is centrally managed by a non-member, non-volitile country. It seems that the UK is more liberal than the US, especially from a Canadian viewpoint. Having access to CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, local news, American superstations, American local stations and British stations such as BBC, SkyNews, etc, I see that things are covered and sensationalized much different between both countries. It's funny that America won't allow "Kevin Spencer" or "Trailer Park Boys," 2 Canadian creations to be aired on their television stations, as they are supposodly "unacceptable and touch on sensitive subjects." Like what? Depressed alcoholic delusional sociopaths? The daily lives of trailer park dwellers? Even BBC carries these programs (or has plans to). Culture-wise, the UK wins hands down, especially in the classics. Modern history was practically written by the UK and their colonization techniques of the world. North American's owe their country to the politics and thinking of the UK'ers of the day. Canada has one up where we balance diversity between 2 radically different cultures, especially history-wise. US culture may be more wide-spread and accepted by the world, as they are the dominant force of the world, however the classics and a part of today's world culture is in part thanks to the UK. Monarchy-wise, I'm not sure how the Queen works for the UK. Queen 'Liz 2 is Canada's head of state. The UK/Canadian Parliament/Senate/House of Lords (Commons) political system seems to work better, with more choice across the board than the American system. There are more choices politically than Democrat/Republican and I don't know how a country can't consider the individuals who represent the other areas of the political landscape. Social problems, violence and moral problems are experienced in both countries, however I would say that America suffers worse from them, simply as they have a larger population and are lax on firearm control laws. I'm not saying that the right to own a firearm should be clamped upon, but it should not be sensationalized to the point where a society like the NRA has the ability to exert considerable influence on the government. Overall... I'll continue to be a member of the Commonwealth and fly the Union Jack proudly. My $0.02. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
em_te Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 what if the people in power decide to go against their own people.. say.. George Bush(just for example) decides he wants to stay in charge of the government forever as our sole leader instead of people voting to see if he makes it next term. and he brings the soliders out on us and starts killing anyone who doesnt agree, until he has a dictatorship.. of course saying this I sound crazy but just think of our history, think about Hitler, if we cant fight for ourselves, we are just slaves. Kind of reminds me of "Enemy Of The State" which was on last night. I can imagine Bush commanding satellites to track people down and then assassining them or accusing them of murder to make them fugitives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
em_te Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 As for my contribution. I think Bond is cooler than Terminator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdsams Veteran Posted January 14, 2004 Veteran Share Posted January 14, 2004 yeah but id take a Dodge Viper Chevy Corvette Ford Mustang any day over a..a.. i dont even know what you make over on the island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 one thing is for sureFootball(aka "Soccer" in the USA ) and cricket are way better than american football and baseball and both sports (soccer and cricket) are played more widely played around the world than the latter sports (Y) yep ... and these dang American roomies of mine don't wanna admit that ! you tell them ... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memNOC Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 (Y)yep ... and these dang American roomies of mine don't wanna admit that ! you tell them ... :) no offense, but cricket is just as retarded as baseball.. and soccer is football, so i dont see the difference, except for the name and the fact its much more popular in the UK.. also, as a rule of thumb, the english are much more arrogant and tend to bash on their western counterparts much commonly than the other way around.. my take on it (and im not neither american nor english) is that the english are usually quick to judge americans, while americans really don't give a damn about the UK or the argument.. i really dislike the whole american culture and society, but when it comes to that, the english bug the crap out of me too.. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SariN Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 US: we have 7000+ Nuclear weapons and our army can kick your armies arse *again* oh yea, and were the only superpower :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPaul Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 The U.S named itself a superpower, I could say I'm super but it doesn't make it so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted January 14, 2004 Veteran Share Posted January 14, 2004 US:we have 7000+ Nuclear weapons and our army can kick your armies arse *again* oh yea, and were the only superpower :whistle: in fact, economicaly speaking, Japan, Germany and the UK is in better situation than US :happy: ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ze-newie Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Both countries have upsides and downsides.I don't like the American style of banks. Banks are meant to be nation wide, not local. Health care belongs in the hands of all people. There should NOT be a 2-tiered health care system. The entire scientific community and the majority of the Nation's of earth all use the Metric system. Time to convert. It's Colour, Humour, Labour, Aluminium, Wagon and Sulphur. Don't butcher the proper English language. US has a better space program. US and UK should work together instead of against eachother, especially on something as important as a Mars rover. The ESA, JSA, CSA, NASA and all the other space agencies should be merged into a world conglomerate that is centrally managed by a non-member, non-volitile country. It seems that the UK is more liberal than the US, especially from a Canadian viewpoint. Having access to CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, local news, American superstations, American local stations and British stations such as BBC, SkyNews, etc, I see that things are covered and sensationalized much different between both countries. It's funny that America won't allow "Kevin Spencer" or "Trailer Park Boys," 2 Canadian creations to be aired on their television stations, as they are supposodly "unacceptable and touch on sensitive subjects." Like what? Depressed alcoholic delusional sociopaths? The daily lives of trailer park dwellers? Even BBC carries these programs (or has plans to). Culture-wise, the UK wins hands down, especially in the classics. Modern history was practically written by the UK and their colonization techniques of the world. North American's owe their country to the politics and thinking of the UK'ers of the day. Canada has one up where we balance diversity between 2 radically different cultures, especially history-wise. US culture may be more wide-spread and accepted by the world, as they are the dominant force of the world, however the classics and a part of today's world culture is in part thanks to the UK. Monarchy-wise, I'm not sure how the Queen works for the UK. Queen 'Liz 2 is Canada's head of state. The UK/Canadian Parliament/Senate/House of Lords (Commons) political system seems to work better, with more choice across the board than the American system. There are more choices politically than Democrat/Republican and I don't know how a country can't consider the individuals who represent the other areas of the political landscape. Social problems, violence and moral problems are experienced in both countries, however I would say that America suffers worse from them, simply as they have a larger population and are lax on firearm control laws. I'm not saying that the right to own a firearm should be clamped upon, but it should not be sensationalized to the point where a society like the NRA has the ability to exert considerable influence on the government. Overall... I'll continue to be a member of the Commonwealth and fly the Union Jack proudly. My $0.02. :) I agree. I'm proud we're members of the Commonwealth :D I kinda wish we had more British culture instead of American though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 US:we have 7000+ Nuclear weapons and our army can kick your armies arse *again* oh yea, and were the only superpower :whistle: And? Why does one countrys army being bigger than another countrys matter? You make it sound as if your proud of it or something when there really isn't anything to be pround of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rick Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 (edited) US:we have 7000+ Nuclear weapons and our army can kick your armies arse *again* oh yea, and were the only superpower :whistle: Most Americans have no idea of the world outside there own city or state.... With the exception of my good friend alot Americans also have no idea where Europe is or England (honest) And as for and our army can kick your armies arse *again* You never could have won the Revolutionary War with out the French army and navy (Or should I say Freedom army and navy). That all said America is a great country as is the UK....Both have there good and bad points Edited January 14, 2004 by Red Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 I personally find it funny that Americans suck @ pretty much all international competitive sports. They tend to play their own games, and stay clear of the rest of the world. I mean, Who the hell plays Baseball, American Football, Hockey, Basketball seriously - elsewhere? Maybe cananda?! LOL Basketball world cup would be who? Canada Vs America? LOL. Thats one thing that gets me, why can't you compete (if you're such a huge super-power) in World sports. FOOTBALL being the key one here. I hate how you call it soccer, that is IMO ignorant. The whole world calls it football, but Americans don't - Is that cuz y'all (irony :p) suck @ it?! I don't really want to flame, but merely show my own points of view, afterall i am currently in Knoxville, with my girlfriend. However i truly am 100% proud of my Nation, it really is nice to be able to travel the world and say, i am British. We all can agree its wrong to judge americans as 'one', the argument is that almost each and every state is different. However they too fail to realise that Newcastle, Manchester, Birmingham, Edingburgh, Swansea and such places reflect the same thing they too dicate. They are all quite different, from the noticable accent, to lifestyle and so forth... Gotta love Tea. I even have my PG Tips over with me now. Teh Pyramid bags! :p Since coming to america, i have found a few things annoying: Tax - You buy something in the shop, and goto pay for it, and 'WHAM' they want more of that monopoly money! Why can't shops include tax on the product? That frustrates me - Almost as much as us paying 17.5% TAX! :rolleyes: . Walking into a shop - Why does every shop assitant talk to you? "Do you need help?" ahh, leave me alone, if i need anything i'll ask. It seldom happens in England, and i am sure its something you can get used to, but right now, i hate it. Esp the 'Have a nice day' LOL, that is SOOO typically american! Fuel - Its annoying how F'in cheap it is. Practically 5x CHEAPER, and yet y'all (LOL) still moan @ it. Language - This 'Y'all / Aight' and crap like that bugs me stupid. I can just about deal with you taking letters out of words... altho that too is annoying, only the other day i had american saying i say Aluminium wrong, and i said how, and he was like 'it only has one *I*' in it. I told him otherwise, then ignorance kicked it. lol oakkkyy. Humour? - Where'd it go. Must of got lost across the Atlantic or something? I ono, thats a little harsh i guess, i mean i speak 2 some Americans here, and they are funny, some on AIM from here, they are cool. MY G/F is funny too... but Mann, there are too many 'DULLERS' who really don't get sarcasm and anything for a laugh. OK, i guess i need my flame suit right now :p ... ah well, i gotta say, this is SOOOO my thread! :D Cheers! <-- lol, i get grief for saying cheers as 'thank you' over here. Roll on saturday, Back off home. :) Gotta love Britain. Oh, and thats another thing, i've met so many americans who really don't understand the whole UNITED KINGDOM thing. Alot believe if you are British, you are from England. Which is cool by me, after all who likes the welsh? LMAO just kidding guys! :p ... But still, its kinda disrespectful on the welsh, irish and scots to get no recognition. I keep having to explain that the UK is not England, but infact 4 Countries, why is that hard for a lot of americans to grasp?! :( *grabs flame suit!* EDIT. I love Taco Bell, i would love to take a few of those stores home with me, we NEED those in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedogg Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Neyo some good differences however I must point out a few things. I could ask any European or Brit about Kansas or Oklahoma or Nebraska and they would be just as clueless. Most Americans concern themselves with what is important and relevant to them which is happenings within the US. A lot of this has to do with US News vs European news since one is more national and the other International based... One thing that annoyed the heck out of me over there was how frugal everyplace is. I mean comon, charging for little ketchup packets and the use of restrooms? As far as the greeting when entering and farewell upon leaving, would you rather have an abudance of help available or unavailable when you may or may not need it? One of the main shopping differences that I've noticed is that in the US its more about the service one receives whereas in Europe its more about the product one buys. Fuel is all relative, we need to travel longer distances and have bigger cars.. Homour is also relative, American and british comedy are vastly different. You should really try travelling to some of the different states, they can be as different from each other as European countries are to each other... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-52Stratofortress Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 ,Jan 13 2004, 16:14] is the same point as your musical one, as I said, jazz and blues are 100% US and I dont deny it, but you said rock, and if rock is inspired or not thats a different history, and excuse me, elvis of course is extremely important, In fact he is the other and only name that can be added to the list, but I dont think you can sey he had influenced more than the beatles or the floyd, maybe indirectly, yes, but in a different roads. Elvis was great rock artist, but Chuck Berry was the greatest "If you tried to give rock and roll another name, you might call it Chuck Berry" - John Lennon Rock takes it roots from Blues and Rock is 100% american invented, and yes later there were bands who were not from america but the roots are from america. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowcountryRev Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 They tend to play their own games, and stay clear of the rest of the world. America tends to play its own games because of geography. To my right is the Atlantic and to my left is the Pacific. During its formative years the US was separated from the rest of the world so our culture developed its own games (and music... and language... and religion... etc). American football evolved after the War Between the States and its play reflects the way battles were fought. Two sides line up against each other and attempt to either take or protect territory. Football (soccer) is a very popular sport now, being played by literally millions of kids around the country. The US may not be world class in this sport now, but the time will come when it will be. Basketball is an Amercian sport that is played around the world. Baseball is played in Japan, South America, and the Carribean. Hockey is a Canadian sport that made its way south. Professional hockey is played everywhere now, even in Charleston, South Carolina. Golf is a sport that made its way to the US from the UK. A few people play Rugby here but very few, if any, play cricket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-52Stratofortress Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 HAHA! that made me laugh!buts thats not true at all now UK Rocks! US is full of Americans! lol! joke bring on the flames! Britain has a better politics system and constitution FLEXIBLE! Not like America, where people are being killed everyday becuase of gun crime But no one can do anything about it! Coz the constitution to too hard to change! WAKE UP PEOPLE! The right to bear arms is the cause fo this problem but your hands are tied! "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Veteran Posted January 14, 2004 Veteran Share Posted January 14, 2004 I personally find it funny that Americans suck @ pretty much all international competitive sports. They tend to play their own games, and stay clear of the rest of the world. Sorry, but what are you talking about? Who has dominated Tennis for the past 10 years? EVer heard of Sampras, Agassi, Serena, Venus, Capriatti, Seles? Who has the number #1 golfer from the past 10 years, Tiger who? How about the top 5 of all time, Palmer, Nicklaus, Snead, Jones, Hogan, need I go on? There is a reason for a European tour, most of them can't handle the comeption here What are the Olympic medal counts usually at? Didn't our Women win the World Cup a few years back? Maybe Europe doens't play baseball, but there are other continents you know and South America is very much active in the sport. Come on now, jsut because we don't play cricket, rugby, and soccer, doens't mean were being isolationists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pencilmonkey Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 America tends to play its own games because of geography. To my right is the Atlantic and to my left is the Pacific. During its formative years the US was separated from the rest of the world so our culture developed its own games (and music... and language... and religion... etc).American football evolved after the War Between the States and its play reflects the way battles were fought. Two sides line up against each other and attempt to either take or protect territory. Football (soccer) is a very popular sport now, being played by literally millions of kids around the country. The US may not be world class in this sport now, but the time will come when it will be. Basketball is an Amercian sport that is played around the world. Baseball is played in Japan, South America, and the Carribean. Hockey is a Canadian sport that made its way south. Professional hockey is played everywhere now, even in Charleston, South Carolina. Golf is a sport that made its way to the US from the UK. A few people play Rugby here but very few, if any, play cricket. Sorry, dude. Basketball was created by a canadian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Veteran Posted January 14, 2004 Veteran Share Posted January 14, 2004 Sorry, dude. Basketball was created by a canadian. Naismith, James (1861-1939), Canadian-American teacher of physical education, recognized as the inventor of the sport of basketball. He was born in Almonte, Ontario, Canada, and educated at McGill University and Presbyterian College in Montr?al. He taught physical education from 1887 to 1890 at McGill University, and from 1890 to 1895 at the Young Men's Christian Association Training School (now Springfield College) in Springfield, Massachusetts. In 1891, aided by the American physical-education specialist Luther Halsey Gulick, he invented basketball as an indoor sport. Naismith developed the game as an activity for his students during the harsh winter months. He was director of physical education at the Young Men's Christian Association (YMCA) in Denver (1895-1898) and at the University of Kansas (1898-1937). As one of the most significant contributors to the sport of basketball, Naismith was voted to the Basketball Hall of Fame in 1959. Officially called the Naismith Memorial Hall of Fame, the institution was named in his honor and is located in Springfield. Listed as a Canadian-American, so I'll take a split with you on this one. ;)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowcountryRev Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Naismith was Canadian but invented basketball in Springfield, Mass., so we're both right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRKx Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 No, no flames... FOOTBALL being the key one here. I hate how you call it soccer, that is IMO ignorant. The whole world calls it football, but Americans don't - Is that cuz y'all (irony ) suck @ it?!However - this is patently, 100%, completely FALSE - and in countries where soccer/football is a way of life, people are having a hard time grasping the concept.The US is rapidly gaining in ground in terms of our soccer prowess - and I think internationally, we're only going to get better and better - even if MLS remains at state that it's been at. One merely needs to check the FIFA website, and read their news as it comes in to see this. Sure, FIFA's world ranking doesn't mean a whole lot - but check the US' position on it. Now, look back to World Cup 2002 - remember that one little team that completely stunned the world in their performance? Yes, it was the Americans. WATCH the games - and one thing rapidly becomes aparant - the US team didn't win by flukes. They played as well as they did through skill and teamwork, pure and simple. Friedel had one of the best showings of /any/ goalkeeper during the entire World Cup - and the final match between Germany and the US was, quite simply, one of the best of the entire thing. Even the German team admitted they were stunned at how /good/ the American team was. Now - the youth World Cup just finished - of course Brazil won - but once again, the US U20 team played some /good/ ball. The U20 may not mean a lot to people - but these are, literally, soccer/football's future playing. Now - let us travel over to the Woman's World Cup. Still not very popular, IIRC, but it's also still a relatively new thing. Here is where we -truly- begin to shine. The US is -consistently- one of the top teams in the entire world in the women's team. I can't deny that our skill in the women's leagues is still years ahead of our men's. The US team is definitely of world class calibre, has been, and will continue to be. So now, we travel to CONCACAF. Poor little CONCACAF. Always being overshadowed by UEFA, or COMNEBOL - but the competition is still quite stiff. Once again, the US is consistently in the upper parts of the rankings within the Federation. So please, traditionally the US is -very- weak at football/soccer - but just as time goes on, that's also changing. It just makes it all the more enjoyable that the majority of the world can't grasp it. (On that note - I remember getting a call from a friend in Germany and getting /yelled/ at when the US was playing Germany - because he simply couldn't believe it. ^.^) Oh - and the -entire- world doesn't call it football. Off the top of my head, the only country I can think of is Japan, and they also call it soccer (of course, they probably started doing that after us.) I know there's a handfull of others - but we aren't alone in that regards. Why can't shops include tax on the product? Simple answer: Shops could if they desired. They choose not to. A lot of it has to do with market research. People are quicker to buy something that's -priced- at $4.99 than they are to buy something priced $5.24 (assuming the 5% sales tax, where I live.) Of course, there's also the states that don't even /have/ sales tax. Sales tax is a state-level thing in the US after all. Fuel - Its annoying how F'in cheap it is. Practically 5x CHEAPER, and yet y'all (LOL) still moan @ it.It's all situational. What might seem cheap to /you/ - quite simply - might /not/ be cheap to us. Also remember that the US is quite a bit larger than most countries - and unlike most other big countries, we have a much more mobile (as in, big distances,) population than others.EDIT. I love Taco Bell, i would love to take a few of those stores home with me, we NEED those in England. My god. Please. Take them all! You're welcome to them!!! Every. Last. One. I state with pride that there's NO Taco Bell out where I live - and a good thing too - we sell pet food in our stores that tastes better than this stuff. (He says with first hand knowledge. The joys of drunken dares years ago. *sigh*) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessorX Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 no offense, but cricket is just as retarded as baseball..and soccer is football, so i dont see the difference, except for the name and the fact its much more popular in the UK.. huh? how can u say that cricket is as retarted as baseball? i just said Cricket is more widely played than baseball( 3 or 4 countries???) Cricket and baseball are somewhat similar. the basic idea is the same hit the ball and socre runs. but again baseball is more like an all american sport while cricket is international w/ english essence ofcourse and the thing abt the word soccer is that its an american word. i mean why have two diff names for the same sport? when the rest of the world calls it football why cant americans call it football too. i know its too late to change the names now cuz americans already have their sport named football. i dont get this why the hell do americans react to football(soccer) as girlish? then a person from another country would call american football childish cuz of all the protection and all in comparisonto rugby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Oh - and the -entire- world doesn't call it football. Off the top of my head, the only country I can think of is Japan, and they also call it soccer (of course, they probably started doing that after us.) I know there's a handfull of others - but we aren't alone in that regards. Find me an English soccer team, I dare you. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudda Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 even the germans call it Fussball the other thing is even though the US may have more people playing and their country getting better ranks. their clubs are unlikely to ever become that good because countries like the UK, France, Spain, Italy have clubs that have clubs with lots of history and money to afford world clss players. remember it not just how good your countries players are, but your clubs need to be good as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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