Alternative ways to skin a cat, erm OS :D


Recommended Posts

Osiris dude, chill.

For starters, there's no reason to compare LS to VS or even WB because LS does completely different things than WB or VS. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

second, if you want to use *any* VS outside of luna, you *do* need third party software, and you know this.

third, why r u goin off at wicked kitten like its some kind of crime to be a woman? that's not cool at all dude.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Originally posted by Osiris  

lol what is this a joke?  you go off at me for generalising a comment and now your stating what she was trying to say and what she meant.  Could be me but I dont think your viable to account for what she did or did not mean.

Secondly she did adress the flaw, as did you then, it doesnt matter what you dress it up as flaw, or "glitch" as you call it, they both mean the same thing.

Thirdly I can generialise my opinion on the basis of facts.  Because as I orignanal post ppl dont want to install third party software and they want stability.  They know the Msstyles skinning is stable, thats why most ppl are using that and none of your "glitched" litestep skins, and how can I generalise this because if you havent noticed on this and 100 other sites msstyles skins are what most ppl are discussing or using themes on.  But I guess being female wicked kitten you wouldnt be aware that theres a bigger world out there, and other sites similar to neowin and other communites like this.  But thats okay I know females are prone to one mindedness.

lmao

whatever

seriously I was thinking about reponding but you aren't even worth the mental effort.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

is it you dont have the mental ability to make that effort or the mental capacity, which one is it?

As for y_notm, 3rd party software doesnt have to be installed, a modification to the uxtheme file, then replacing it in safemode will accomplish the goal of letting you use other themes, and ontop of that the early versions of stylexp which only function was running a batch file that did what I described can hardly be called 3rd party software such as is windows blinds and litestep.

And like comparing apples to oranges, well there both fruit, so like software theres your common ground. Which you can then compare all of their properites to one another.

So unless there is anyone who can offer a suitable and reasonable argument to this topic or wicked kittens metal capacity or ability, I shall consider this discussion concluded.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Osiris have you ever installed Litestep or any other shell replacement do you have the slightest clue what you are arguing about and as for saying thay are both fruit is the wekaest argument I've heard in a long time is it that you don't know enough about the actual topic that makes you argue his analogy instead of the topic?? Just curious that's like saying that comparing windows XP and MS office is like comparing apples to oranges and having someone reply they are both fruit. Yes they are both software this is true but your comment on the ability to compare them in reference to someones loose analogy is a purile copout. And as for wickedkitten no need to defend her when your the one being so childish about a topic you obviously to anyone who knows the topic don't know a thing about.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

stop flaming ya'll. i've used litestep for a long time. there are reasons people prefer litestep and there are reasons people prefer windows xp. if you'll all just leave it be. all he asked for was two extra sections in the forums, even if you hate litestep all it adds is a link on the forums page... and it's not really going to change based on your opinion. it is up to the moderators on if they want to add this section.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Im forced to ponder weather you know whats going on. Comparing them to fruit in the analogy that y_notm used, I simply responded to it, so do us all a favour and read all the responses prior to just mine.

And in response to yours, yes ive used litestep and Windows Blinds, just as ive used Linux and BeOS and OsX, so yes I can comment quite adamentally on other skinning products and those forementioned just as I can Operating Systems.

As for you emotional and defensive response to anything ive said about wickedkitten, im inclined to think that merely because my opionion on these other skinning products differs from yours your saying I dont know anything about the topic, well after that rather inane response by yourself one wonders what you know about the topic, other then hearing the words litestep and windowsblinds from this thread do you know anything about them, or other skinning systems for that matter?

As for WickedKitten, she is the one who started this thread, and who decided to get offensive in relation to my first reply, so you get back to me when youve done more then hear some names and stick up for ppl you somewhat know.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That is pointless, what is this forum, Customising WindowsXP or theres Customising Windows98/ME/2000. These programs are used to customise OS, so they should fit just as the msstyles and all the others do under those forums, no seperate ones of there own.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I have to agree with Wicked Kitten.

First off, there are a LOT of programs out there that have thousands of users that customize Windows that get little attention.

Besides WindowBlinds, there is also Chroma which can skin Windows.

And there is Litestep, a replacement shell, Hoverdesk (www.hoverdesk.net) which is also a replacement shell, Talisman, and DesktopX, and ObjectBar.

Here's an article I wrote on the topic for anyone that's interested:

http://www.stardock.com/stardock/articles/...primer2002.html

I work for Stardock but let me say for the record that Stardock isn't even close to the only ones that make customization software. There is a ton of excellent software out there made by thousands of very talented developers. www.skinbase.org has something like 500 or so skin sections for instance.

I agree with WK that it would be nice if the Customization of Windows could be broadened and more generalized. Rather than product specific, have it category specific:

Customizing:Windows:Shells

Customizing:Windows:GUI

Customizing:Windows:Desktop

Or something like that.

Then you could get more specific from there with each section linking to the other sections for easy access. I would, for intsance, like to be able to talk about different strategies for making XP icons. Where do I go? Or from a more self-interest point of view, how about discussions for making plugins and scripts for DesktopX and Litestep and whatnot?

I think a lot of the reason why you see flame wars like "WindowBlinds vs. Style XP" is because there's segregation and therefore rivalry. Ultimately, we're all on the same side - we all want the ability to customize our PC's beyond what Redmond has decided.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Osiris once again you amaze me ytou claim to know what litestep and other shell replacements are but still call them skining programs. THEY DO NOT SKIN ANYTHING. there may be skins for there interface but they are not skinning programs they are shells. Environments. You know what those are if you have used Linux to any degree. Calling litestep a skining program is like calling E or GNOME or KDE a skinning program. If you're understanding of these things is so limited you can't grasp the difference then I can begin to understand some of the odd statements you've made in respect to them but if you really do know as much as you are claiming then I'm left feeling you are being childishly defensive of you're original statement. And as for your original statement that the people on noewin would have no interest in these things how do you explain peoples interest in the Active desktop you designed it was buggy by your own admission and required itself to be configured per system also by your own admission basically all it did was a simplified extension of windows to add some very similar functionality to the desktop im a very similar fasion to what is done with shell replacements but being as they are designed to do just that they often work much better and being as they run without explorer in the background unlike your Active Desktop they use less resources. So why would ppl have an interest in your active desktop but not in a product that allowed greater functionality of the same kind of thing??? Just seems strange you would think they wouldn't want it and wrong you would state it in a thread to help people be aware of these options.

As for frog boy thank you ver much for once again being a part of this community although at times I don't always agree with you it's always good to know your here and helping to push our fight to own and operate our systems as WE choose as opposed to how M$ does. :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Originally posted by Osiris  

is it you dont have the mental ability to make that effort or the mental capacity, which one is it?

As for y_notm, 3rd party software doesnt have to be installed, a modification to the uxtheme file, then replacing it in safemode will accomplish the goal of letting you use other themes, and ontop of that the early versions of stylexp which only function was running a  batch file that did what I described can hardly be called 3rd party software such as is windows blinds and litestep.  

And like comparing apples to oranges, well there both fruit, so like software theres your common ground.  Which you can then compare  all of their properites to one another.

So unless there is anyone who can offer a suitable and reasonable argument to this topic or wicked kittens metal capacity or ability, I shall consider this discussion concluded.

If you can't figure out the difference between a skin and a shell then its your own fault.

As for you emotional and defensive response to anything ive said about wickedkitten, im inclined to think that merely because my opionion on these other skinning products differs from yours your saying I dont know anything about the topic, well after that rather inane response by yourself one wonders what you know about the topic, other then hearing the words litestep and windowsblinds from this thread do you know anything about them, or other skinning systems for that matter?
wtf is that? I think whack has already shown that he knows what hes talking about unlike you that just like to drop product names and bitch about dodgy they are without giving an exact reason for why they are.
Thirdly I can generialise my opinion on the basis of facts. Because as I orignanal post ppl dont want to install third party software and they want stability. They know the Msstyles skinning is stable, thats why most ppl are using that and none of your "glitched" litestep skins, and how can I generalise this because if you havent noticed on this and 100 other sites msstyles skins are what most ppl are discussing or using themes on.

ok whatever pal. 100 other sites my ass lol. Obviously you've never been out of themexp.org considering the fact that most sites aren't talking about msstyles skins. You go to any recognised customisation site mention msstyles being better than wb or litestep and see what happens.

But I guess being female wicked kitten you wouldnt be aware that theres a bigger world out there, and other sites similar to neowin and other communites like this. But thats okay I know females are prone to one mindedness.

just because of the fact that your girlfriend probably became a lesbian after being with you thats no reason to take it out on the rest of womankind. You should just own up to the fact that your a prick and get a puppy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Whack my desktop had nothing to do with this, its was a design which was afluently asked for by people of this community and of course it had to be configured to the individual persons specifics.

So dont bring in my designs into this just as I wont bring in anything you have done.

Secondly alright ill apologise and recant I was unaware we were getting so technical here ill go back and edit all the posts to say "Environments" I guess I was unaware that it meant so much to you.

Thirdly to the hoe, the ######, the prostitute or whatever they call you in the hole you crawled out of, eitherway the dog that started this inane thread ill do you the favour and admit im a prick, but its working for me, ive got money and sheila, etc so it seems to be working fine, bu thanks for asking.

Unfortuntely I dont have anything against the whole of womankind as you so eliquently put it only;

overweight, butch, obese, ugly, trailer park trash, ######. really thats the only women im against, I guess you can see now why I dislike you so much, I mean youd fit into what at least 4 of those catagories?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

i cannot belive a punk ass like Osiris dares to call himself Neowinian Elite

Osiris, listen, you just have to remove that sand from your vagina, it makes you act silly... Does it itch?

man threat is getting too funny with those elite comebacks

[ :knocked: ]

admit im a prick
d o o oh :D

nuff said about skinin, though - now its just a flame

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nah mate im not the ###### in this thread, and yeah I dare call myself a neowin elite because of all the time and months ive been here this hoe is the first person ive ever had a problem with, so how about you sit your punk ass back down and let an Elite handle this situation. [just joking man]

Although your comments did give me an idea, that maybe its just that time of the month for the hoe, in that case sorry wickedkitten I know how tempramental you sheilas get around that time.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

osiris seriously, your funny as **** m8, do you have a thesaurus open next to your keyboard or something cos you're typing like your trying to come off as being educated but not managing to pull it off very well.

On the internet everything is relative.

You can go ahead and think what you want about me if it will make you feel better cos I could care less. OH boo hoo some kid on the internet thinks I'm fat wahhh wahhh lol

Anyhoo, you've been dismissed bitch.

Back to shell managers has anyone tried Aston?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

lol trying to come off as educated, well in Australia we have whats considered by the UN the best education system in the world and perhaps unlike yourself I didnt drop out of highschool, I finsihed sucessfully with high honours and im at uni now, so perhaps you should reevaulate your own education there but no if you need a thesaurus its good to see your trying.

seriously though I was expecting a better comeback then that, but in all seriousness, ive been laughing my ass off this since I first responded to your first response to mine.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The only reason I brought up your design is that it does basically the same thing as a Litestep theme just not nearly as well because it's coded in html and other scripts that weren't designed for that particular aplication. I was just trying to make it clear to you that if someone had interest in your desktop they would probably like Litestep and Talisman and the many other shell replacements available. And if they where willing to modify your code to make it work on there systems why wouldn't they be willing to configure a shell replacement. I wasn't insulting it I actually downloaded it and played with it a bit really it's an admirable job for html. I you werent so stupidly pigheaded you might have tried a good shellreplacement and done something more productive with your talent. But oh well no time for that amongst the elite I gues :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ah tis cool mate, obviously a misunderstanding here, but alas I see your point now. ill concede I didnt even really give litestep a try, I was in haste at the time, and wasnt impressed with what it did at first glance so gave it really no chance, I still stand by everything ive said about Windows Blinds but.

Hey im not pigheaded im one of the most open minded people here, I was just having some laughs :evil: , but wickedkittend doesnt appear to be playing the game anymore.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Originally posted by Osiris  

lol trying to come off as educated, well in Australia we have whats considered by the UN the best education system in the world and perhaps unlike yourself I didnt drop out of highschool, I finsihed sucessfully with high honours and im at uni now, so perhaps you should reevaulate your own education there but no if you need a thesaurus its good to see your trying.

seriously though I was expecting a better comeback then that, but in all seriousness, ive been laughing my ass off this since I first responded to your first response to mine.

If you actually used grammar, spelling and punctuation correctly in a sentence, I might actually believe what your saying.

As for wickedkitten not playing the game anymore, you're making enough of an ass out of yourself without me helping.

Heres a pretty cool screenshot of a Hoverdesk QNX theme by dangeruss:

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation.php?id=170971

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Osiris started out with a comment he had about LiteStep or whatever. I don't even remember exactly what he said anymore. But he continued to back up what he said, and I respected him for it. And I'm not sure why WickedKitten took offense to it, but Osiris then started the name-calling, which was bad. Whack then thought he'd be the man and start talking for WickedKitten, even worse idea. LiteStep might be buggy, I'm not sure since I haven't used it in a while, but it is hard to set up. But that wasn't the point of this thread. This thread was about more diversity in the different types of skinning/theming/shell replacement/yada yada programs Neowin should have in the forum. This fight/argument I'm reading in this thread is just silly. Attacking each other on their gender is dumb. And attacking each other on English and grammar is equally stupid, seeing as how you're both mixing up the word "you're" and "your". Now, I'm not claiming to be some English professor, and I'm not exactly fond of WickedKitten (I'm sure she knows why), but I think you all should stay focused on the issue and not on personal attacks. Osiris, have you ever met WickedKitten? How would you know if she was 'fat', or 'butch', or "trailer park trash"? Even if she was, why would you hate her for it? Maybe we should all hate you for being a prejudice, sexist, and stupid ass. I don't see why her being female has anything to do with ANYTHING. I'm not sure what kind of 'game' you're playing, but I hope you're having fun. Because all I see is an immature guy with nothing better to do than provoke fights on a CUSTOMIZING FORUM. How cool is that? And as for whack, let the woman speak for herself. What you do is called hearsay or maybe you didn't even hear it at all. But in any case, don't speak for someone else. I'm sure she's your friend and you're trying to protect her, but you don't speak for her.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

hey man I didnt start this crap I just expressed an opinion and I got a very harsh response to it which wasnt called for.

Now I dont know where you come from, but in Australia we have a sense of humour, and its called joking around, if you all werent so serious as a cpl of other neowinians have found its actually quite a funny thread. So I was just having some fun with it okay, also I wanted to see how long it would take for the mods to close the thread. Ive been here for along time, and in all my time this is the first time ive ever had this problem in a thread, and im not taking all the blame for this, wickedkitten is as much to blame as myself, she might now have been as provactive as I was, but gees lets see, she doesnt know me and she calls, me a prick, cpl other things, oh un-educated repetitively, when I finished HS with High marks and am at Uni doing a double degree in Economics and Business Management. Yes it was a two way street im just reponding to paegoo's comments.

But seriously lighten up, ill concede I did take it off topic, but im not taking full responsibility here.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

guy with nothing better to do than provoke fights on a CUSTOMIZING FORUM

you know what ? osiris got a point here.

wickitten has being just as provocative here.

so i guess they both have to get that sand out of their vaginas..

:D :D :D

--------

what? i guess i am the one who actually finds this thread funny?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.