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Windows 10 Is The Worst OS Ever Created.

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restroom    333
7 minutes ago, HeLGeN-X said:

Ugh and I know my stupid "1337" username is hard to take seriously, but I made this account back when that was a thing and the moderators never changed it regardless I asked multiple times, never even got a response to be honest. Nevertheless, I will check the hash on some other source I get it from. I swear I downloaded it from the MS download app once too and this still happened, though that was a while ago and I have no proof for that one. I can't even trust microsofts official server because this is exactly where I'm getting the ISO from and putting them on a clean drive which is always formatted clean every time before installation.

Your name has no baring on this. Its more that it just sounds implausible for this to happen without incorrect user interaction. So far you keep talking about legit serials etc., but we still don't have confirmation that the download from a legitimate source still has the issue.

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Tuskd    2,381

My recommendation. Remove all forms of Windows 10 ISOs from your Mac. Preferably run a virus scan for your Mac as well (Just to be sure that there is no virus that replaces your official ISO after download, you never know). Download the OFFICIAL image DIRECTLY from Microsoft (Preferably use another network to download). Then load it on to the bootcamp and see. This 'should' work. I can't think of any other reason you could be infected.

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Nick H.    10,113

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Let's keep the posts to problem solving, not spectating.

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DJ_Disco_Dave    21

Sounds like there may be a rootkit or other deeply embedded virus/botnet client already hidden away on the machine.

Might be worth getting a Rootkit scanner from Malwarebytes/Sophos/McAfee/Bitdefender etc.

 

I'd suggest going direct to Microsoft, downloading there ISO media creation tool and using that to download a clean up-to-date image...

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10

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restroom    333
47 minutes ago, Nick H. said:

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Let's keep the posts to problem solving, not spectating.

Aww, it was more fun though :p

 

Anyway, until the user specifies a legitimate source of the downloaded ISO, I don't think there is much we can do to help.

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+Human.Online    8,690
1 hour ago, HeLGeN-X said:

it has given me viruses, spyware, ram and CPU hijacking apps, apps stuck in Windows folders, apps in temp folders ETC, spyware and viruses

No, Windows hasn't given you those things.

 

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atcapistrano    62
1 hour ago, HeLGeN-X said:

Exactly. I installed the official Windows 10 to a partition on my MB downloaded through the BC Assistant and as soon as I connected online, Edge opened up and went to some javascripted site and started installing spyware as seen above and this has happened multiple times. There may be one thing that could have ruined it which I did which never affected me on Windows 7, but I open UAC to change the permissions and put it to the 3rd level so that I don't get the grey/darkened screen popups when installing apps, but I never had this problem on Windows 7, EVER.

you got a hijacked internet browser. download windows 10 from official source (no need to buy atm, no key needed for installation), burn to blank dvd-r or create bootable usb using a clean computer. no sense in creating a bootable media from a suspected infected machine.

never had your problems on beta, rtm, anni/1511, 1607 versions of windows. I am using either avg or avast free editions in my 5 desktops and 1 very old intel core 2 duo laptop + Malwarebytes/spybot free edition on demand scanners.

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cork1958    1,756

Wow! I may despise Windows 10 as much as anyone else that dislikes it, but I'd have to say, as has already been suggested, you either have downloaded a bad copy, have some kind of root kit already installed, or are on an infected network. Should almost be no other possibility for what you're experiencing.

 

 

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Raa    1,569

No, it isn't.

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Dot Matrix    7,438

Downloading a legit serial key != Downloading a legit ISO. If you torrented an ISO, there is a chance it infected the machine you're using. There have been cases of malware persisting even after clean installs. 

 

This isn't Windows 10, this is much a PEBKAC issue.

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+Anarkii    2,255
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I have downloaded Windows 10 from torrents

You are at page 2 and still haven't provided a source as to where you have gotten your Windows 10 install media. So I will take a guess and simply say it's not legit. 
If it is indeed true, any and I mean ANY source that isnt from Microsoft's window site is and will be a dodgy source. Their iso's are usually 'custom iso's' which have the base Windows 10 install media, but also have junk applications, such as what you are seeing, malware, keyloggers, java based injections etc.
That is exactly what we are seeing here. It's possible the Windows 10 torrent you first downloaded infected you with a rootkit also, which you may not have picked up yet, where the only fix for them is to completely wipe the HDD in most cases. 
That being said, this link is a official source. https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10 
Go there, download the iso, and do a fresh install over the partition you currently have Windows 10 installed to. Open Edge, do what you normally do, if you still see those programs at startup and in your task manager, then its a rootkit, if not, it is just a case of dont download software from dodgy torrent websites :)
Good luck.

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Boo Berry    2,264
20 minutes ago, Dot Matrix said:

This isn't Windows 10, this is much a PEBKAC issue.

Yup, this.

 

Use legit Windows 10 ISOs obtained from the Microsoft site next time.

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+John Teacake    454

But I'm still special though right? :laugh::laugh:

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+InsaneNutter    1,363

What's the SHA1 of the Windows 10 ISO you installed from?

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restroom    333
12 minutes ago, John Teacake said:

But I'm still special though right? :laugh::laugh:

Only because you have a lot of posts. Its nothing to do with your MVC badge :p

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+John Teacake    454
9 minutes ago, restroom said:

Only because you have a lot of posts. Its nothing to do with your MVC badge :p

True Story. :D

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neufuse    3,955

Well since I support a ton of windows 10 systems since it was RTM'ed, and I never saw anything like this....... I'm going to have to say it's the users fault not Microsoft's... you are doing something or downloaded something or went to something that caused this...

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techbeck    6,968

If MS got rid of those damn apps, or app pointers, I really wouldnt have much issue with Win10.  I mean, I am sure I will find something later on to complain about, :p , but the app issue is really fricken annoying.

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patseguin    1,322

Do you maybe have another computer on your home network which could be transmitting a virus to the fresh installs on this machine?

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PsYcHoKiLLa    2,426

Just an aside but have you checked the DNS settings on your router in case it has been compromised and is sending you to illegitimate sites which are downloading malware? You said you are getting the ISO through legitimate channels which makes me think something is forcing the malware to download, illegitimate DNS could do this by directing you to a malware site instead.

 

Also, it's PEBCAK! (Problem exists between chair and keyboard)

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philcruicks    259
3 minutes ago, PsYcHoKiLLa said:

Also, it's PEBCAK! (Problem exists between chair and keyboard)

PEBKAC*

Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair*

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tompkin    153

Well, no one was a bigger critic than I was about Windows 10 leading up to release, and I can happily report that everything is going exceedingly well.  I am using Edge as my  sole browser (laptop) and it is doing great. Performance beats Firefox, Chrome noticeably. No problems with it either. Sorry for "off topic" post.

But Windows 10 is not the worst OS ever. If you got it off the torrent, there is a 99.9% likelihood that it is NOT the Windows OS that's the problem.

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manifesto    511

Yeah MS is such an evil company that embedded all of those malware to Windows 10 and you are the only one that noticed so that makes it the worst operating system ever!!!! /s

 

It seems that you got a dodgy ISO or a partition that is full of junk and you are getting infected every time that you are reinstalling. (If you are using a legit ISO of course).

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+Gary7    7,380

All of this talk about torrents and such, makes me wonder why this thread is still open.

 

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No Illegal Software/Copyrighted Discussion.
Discussions involving warez, cracks, security circumvention, using torrents for downloading copyrighted or illegal material is strictly prohibited. This includes music files or other unauthorized software. Asking for help in doing so will cause warns or suspensions of accounts.

 

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Jones111    7

Hi there!

To say it first: I've installed Windows 10 on countless computers of family, friends and in the office. I've been Windows Insider from day one and tested all preview versions. Never ever was there an install infected with spy- or malware.

 

Here are some tips that I want to share with you so you can have the same nice Windows 10 experience as nearly everyone else.

 

First and foremost, you should CHECK the CRC sum of your Windows 10 ISO image and download it from the official page:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

 

Vendors that advise you to download a 'special' version are, in most cases, not trustworthy.
Also shy away from any torrent version even if they claim to be legit.

 

Please confirm that you've done this before continuing or tell us where you can't proceed.
Infected install files are easy to produce and make any further action pointless.

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After you've done this, check your current environment for re-infection resources.
This might be an outdated router or a router with outdated firmware that got hijacked.
Outdated routers can reroute websites, insert malware and grab login credentials.

 

Do you have a NAS or preexisting storage devices?
Turn them off or remove the connection. Windows is most vulnerable during install.
The install should also be performed on a CLEAN hard drive with no data on it.

 

Mind that very nasty malware can hide in your BIOS.
Yes, the BIOSes have enough storage and capabilities to do this in these days.

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This captures all on having a clean environment.
Now, let's proceed to the install process.

The best version to install is the 64 bit version in a UEFI configuration.
32bit or non-UEFI are less secure by design.

 

Try setting the system up without a Microsoft account, since roaming could (theoretically) download malware from your account or SkyDrive.

 

If this doesn't help, set up the install witout any network at all.
Apply the most recent good AV-software there is before going back online.

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Let's do some after-install security.

 

Do not, I repeat: Do NOT disable or mute UAC. All installs of Windows and Windows Server at my company have the UAC at the normal, MS recommended level. It might be a noisance for people who are used to the old times. But we aren't in the old times anymore and the internet is a virtual battlefield filled with armies, thugs and thieves now. Threats spawn so quick that you can't protect yourself enough.

 

Keep the Windows firewall on. Don't say it's enough that your router has one. Internal network devices can be threats, too.

 

As mentioned above, install the most recent and good AV-software.
Defender is usually ok for everyday use. But with an infected network/storage/MS account or browsing torrent sites and simmilar, it's better to go for security.

 

Do not install some random software or software bundles from the net.
For example, I've had to face a nasty infection caused by the SUPER media converter installer, recently.

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If you've done all this and still have issues:


Please post a full inventory of your hardware and software and their origin.
Please tell us more about your network configuration and the connected devices.
And finally, please tell us what kind of reconfiguration you did to your Windows.
 

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